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I feel sick! Don’t know if I’m being paranoid though.

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CutiePatooties · 17/09/2024 14:56

My husband has been acting a bit ‘off’ for about a year I’d say. It started with him hardly ever wanting sex, but I partly put it down to age (he was 52 at this point) and the fact I’ve let myself go majorly (I wouldn’t want to do it with me if I was him). He then bought new clothes and has regular hair cuts - I mean, he didn’t even bother getting his hair cut for our wedding! So this felt strange.

He then started acting funny with his phone. I noticed he never left it lying around like before and where he used to sit in the living room (where you could see his phone screen as it’s all open plan) he then changed where he sat and sits with his back to the wall so you can’t see what’s on his screen without getting up and going over to him. (In which case, he’ll put it away). He never sits next to me on his phone, it’s always with his back to me, or like yesterday, he was at the bottom of the stairs on his phone, I came out, he quickly walked up stairs putting his phone in his pocket.

Now while some of you may think this isn’t anything to worry about, it was enough for me to go searching for things. I don’t know his passwords to anything, so I thought I’d start with Facebook and try guessing his password. I put his phone number in and it came up with a different guy’s name, but linked to his mobile number and an email which although most was asterisks, started with his initial and not this guy’s initial. (I hope I’m making sense). I then tried getting into that email and clicked on ‘forgotten password’ and another email address and his mobile number came up on the recovery page. So he has at least two more emails than I thought and a Facebook account under another name.

I phoned him and just asked how many email accounts does he have and he said one. When pressed a bit, he said maximum two and one is a gmail account. This isn’t true - he has at least 2 outlooks and 1 Hotmail. I then asked how many Facebook accounts he has and he said 1 and sounded confused. He asked me why I’m asking and I said not to worry and hung up. He then sent a message asking, ‘what are you on about?’

I don’t know if I am BU, as when I say he’s become weird with his phone, he tells me I just want an argument and says, ‘look at my phone then, go on, go on!’ And shouts at me, so I just back down. Has always made me think maybe I’m overthinking it and he’s not done anything wrong. But finding out about the other email addresses and the Facebook under a different name has made me think perhaps I’m right to be suspicious. It’s so hard as there’s no way of finding out more info and he’s had the chance to be honest with me but hasn’t.

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Askmehowiknow2021 · 18/09/2024 07:38

I’m sorry op. I know that sick feeling all too well! Can you access bank statements? See if he’s been spending in usual places? Do you have find my iPhone on his phone? Anything else you can check to see what he’s up to?

I agree it all sounds dodgy as fuck, but whatever he has been doing, he’s been denying and justifying it to himself for a while, so he’s not just suddenly going to see the error of his ways and fess up - they never do……

ArcaneSquiggle · 18/09/2024 07:35

Before your updates I thought, while it definitely looks dodgy and I’d be confused and concerned in your situation, there was still a very small chance that this might be innocent.
I’m quite a private person, so I have two profiles in my real name - one that has everybody on it (colleagues etc, people I don’t know very well), and a second linked profile that I use more, with close friends and family. I also had a pseudonym account I used for interacting in groups when the subject matter was slightly personal and I didn’t want to risk comments being seen by acquaintances.

But, if asked, I would immediately and easily be able to explain those accounts and why I have/had them. I no longer know the log in for the pseudonym account, but I’d be able to tell a partner what I’d been using it for and my explanations would make sense because they’d be honest.

He told me the other one with his same name is his cousin and he doesn’t use the other emails any more. I said why would his cousin block me (I’ve been blocked from the other account with his name) and he said he doesn’t know. I’ve never met his cousin
This doesn’t make sense.
He’s hiding something, he’s not being honest with you.

“You always start an argument” or do you try to start a conversation which he then turns it into an argument by being defensive? Shutting down attempts at discussion and accusing you of being argumentative is a good technique to avoid talking about his behaviour.

So sorry OP, none of this looks good.

Sandunesandseashells · 18/09/2024 07:21

Microsoft is retiring hotmail in favour of outlook so this may not be connected. Other than that though, too much secrecy!

Fannyfiggs · 18/09/2024 07:15

What a vile specimen of a man. Sitting with his head down, woe is me, I'm doing nothing wrong and have the classic nagging, crazy wife. That behaviour would be enough to get rid of him OP.

But not cuddling his daughter, his child who is worried about him? That's a different level. What a horrible, selfish little man.

Kick this fucker out, get yourself a glow up and live the rest of your life, with your beautiful children, in absolute happiness.

Workhardcryharder · 18/09/2024 07:14

So odd? He’s hiding something

CandyLeBonBon · 18/09/2024 07:14

My ex behaved/did almost exactly the same. In a hunch I searched a username he'd used when we were first dating and his profile came up on POF or similar. Turns out he'd been cheating for a large proportion of our relationship. Sorry OP. It really doesn't look good 😢

newyear2024 · 18/09/2024 07:13

I would be checking his Internet history OP if he hasn't already deleted it.

Suzuki70 · 18/09/2024 07:11

I think he is cheating. And I would reply that I will happily have an argument if it leads to the truth.

Him not letting you look (because he hadn't deleted the latest messages) is almost 100% nailed-on cheating. I dunno. I'd be telling him I felt I had enough evidence to separate and see what he says.

ClockworkDisaster · 18/09/2024 07:05

It doesn’t sound good does it? Even if he isn’t cheating and is totally innocent of it, the rest of his behaviours aren’t kind.

notanotherusername2024 · 18/09/2024 07:01

CutiePatooties · 18/09/2024 06:54

Oh it gets worse with how his behaviour is after me questioning him…..

First, I’m the problem - I want to start arguments, I’m starting arguments every day, I invaded his privacy by logging into that Facebook, I’m “nutty” etc.

This morning, our 8 year old came over to cuddle him (as he was sitting with his head down looking all sad, so she was worried) and he pushed her away. Actually used his forearm to guide her out of the way of him. She looked so hurt, that I gave her a cuddle instead. I can’t possibly say anything about him treating her that way though - as otherwise it plays into his ‘you always start an argument’ gaslighting rubbish.

Write everything down, with dates, times and places, including his treatment of your daughter. Contemporaneous notes may be useful for various reasons.

CutiePatooties · 18/09/2024 06:54

Fannyfiggs · 18/09/2024 06:48

Unfortunately, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's usually a cheating bastard.

Trust your gut OP. And how dare he tell you that you always want to start arguments. If he wasn't a dodgy snake then you wouldn't need to question him. Prick!

Oh it gets worse with how his behaviour is after me questioning him…..

First, I’m the problem - I want to start arguments, I’m starting arguments every day, I invaded his privacy by logging into that Facebook, I’m “nutty” etc.

This morning, our 8 year old came over to cuddle him (as he was sitting with his head down looking all sad, so she was worried) and he pushed her away. Actually used his forearm to guide her out of the way of him. She looked so hurt, that I gave her a cuddle instead. I can’t possibly say anything about him treating her that way though - as otherwise it plays into his ‘you always start an argument’ gaslighting rubbish.

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Fannyfiggs · 18/09/2024 06:48

Unfortunately, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it's usually a cheating bastard.

Trust your gut OP. And how dare he tell you that you always want to start arguments. If he wasn't a dodgy snake then you wouldn't need to question him. Prick!

Sheaintheavyshesmymother · 18/09/2024 06:38

FWIW i have 3 Facebook accounts, two of which I don’t use and can’t even remember passwords for. I can’t remember why I set them up, something to do with marketplace and possibly Spotify. It was a long time ago but every couple of years I accidentally log in to the wrong one and don’t recognise anything.

That said the phone stuff does sound very dodgy. Sounds like you guys need to have a proper conversation. Good luck!

MissHemsworth · 18/09/2024 06:37

The behaviour with the phone is telling and a red flag so big it can be seen from space.

You are describing my STBXH exact behaviour to a tee before I discovered he'd been cheating.

Zanatdy · 18/09/2024 05:34

CutiePatooties · 17/09/2024 20:27

He denied it all, so I showed him proof. Then he admitted to the one with a fake name and said it was from ages ago and he deleted it. Told me I’ve probably activated it again now.

He told me the other one with his same name is his cousin and he doesn’t use the other emails any more. I said why would his cousin block me (I’ve been blocked from the other account with his name) and he said he doesn’t know. I’ve never met his cousin.

I got angry and asked to look through his phone; I said ‘you’ve told me I can look through your phone before, so let me look now’ and he said no, because it will start another argument. Then said I always want to start arguments.

He’s clearly lying, the fact you’re blocked by a so called cousin says it all. He’s cheating, or hiding something. 100%

babyproblems · 18/09/2024 05:19

Can you look at his internet history?
That might reveal any more contact with other men etc. Agree it’s off and probably not good op… do you want it to continue that’s the big Q. Best of luck to you x

Loloblue · 18/09/2024 05:00

Don't some dating apps use social media profiles...? Pretty sure you can connect them...

NYE2023 · 18/09/2024 04:04

Trust your instincts on this . My partner of 40 years started behaving weirdly - lost weight , new more fitted clothes , preening in front of mirror . Multiple weird for him behaviours . Gaslighting when challenged. He was having an affair . So many lies told .

notanotherusername2024 · 18/09/2024 03:35

99.9 percent probability of cheating.

See a lawyer, sort yourself financially and legally while gathering evidence and saying nothing to him. If it turns out not to be cheating you'll have done zero harm to anyone.

HowYouSpellingThat10 · 18/09/2024 03:10

Have you googled the mystery email accounts or the username he has created them in?

Sadly I found an ex on shall we say dodgy sites this way as he wasn't imaginative enough to think of a different username and the location details all matched.

It doesn't look good.

ItsTheGAGGGGGGGG · 18/09/2024 03:09

Now while some of you may think this isn’t anything to worry about,

I don’t think anyone was thinking that. He sounds dodgy as fuck

SilverDoe · 18/09/2024 02:36

You looking at his phone right now would start another argument?

I am so sorry OP, it does sound quite bad at this point and does seem like he is up to something :(

I am so sorry you are in this position, truly.

HauntedbyMagpies · 18/09/2024 02:03

Personally, this would be all I'd need. I'd be gone and wouldn't even glance back.

StormingNorman · 17/09/2024 23:02

This doesn’t sit right.

Noseybookworm · 17/09/2024 22:59

It certainly sounds like he's up to no good ☹️ I think if I were you, I'd be telling him that you want a separation. You don't need to have incontrovertible proof - if you believe he's being deceptive, that's enough.