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To make a new male dad friend

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Geriatricmillenial · 17/09/2024 08:13

I was at the swimming pool with my daughter when she started playing with another little girl, who was there with her dad. We did the usual parent chat on and off while they played, then both happened to be in the cafe afterwards so sat together. The girls got on super well and it just felt easy and friendly. The dad is often off work with her on the same day I am so asked if I wanted to swap numbers to do a play date, which I did. We had some generic texts to arrange to meet at the farm I normally go to the following week.

I told my husband about it and asked if it was ok, and it is a novel situation. I have had this scenario countless times with other mums but never a dad. My husband was a bit funny about it, which I understood, but for the last week have been making jokes e.g. about my ‘boyfriend’ and knew that I had made a plan to meet up. We have spoken about it and I asked several times if it’s ok.

Then last night he told me he was very ‘angry’ that I wasn’t considering his feelings, and that it wasn’t ok for me to text and meet up with a man, a ‘stranger’.

It’s complicated by the fact that we have just started couples counselling (for long standing reasons - it’s actually helped us be in a more positive place so I don’t see us as at crisis point). Husband is actually seeing our couples counsellor while I would be meeting this other dad as I need to be out of the house, which to him adds insult to injury.

I have always had male friends but for various reasons am not close to any at the moment, so perhaps part of me misses this. I don’t know if this man would become a friend (100% I don’t want any more than that), but I was looking forward to the opportunity to pass the time with another person I seemed to get on ok with. But due to the row last night I have cancelled.

AIBU to have created this situation?

OP posts:
JaneRocks · 22/09/2024 04:15

nicknot · 17/09/2024 08:53

I have always had male friends but for various reasons am not close to any at the moment, so perhaps part of me misses this. I don’t know if this man would become a friend (100% I don’t want any more than that), but I was looking forward to the opportunity to pass the time with another person I seemed to get on ok with.

Interesting how the children are not the focus of the meet up here, for you it's about the man. I guess that's been picked up by your DH?

Exactly.

jbm16 · 21/09/2024 22:45

Rolypolyup · 17/09/2024 08:52

Absolutely no way would I be ok with my husband meeting up with another woman in any circumstances. And that would be the reason I wouldn't start up a friendship with a man.

Really struggle to understand some of the comments on this site, just much lack of trust, it's a kids play date for gods sake...

Finnishflags · 21/09/2024 22:34

@Geriatricmillenial I don’t think it’s at all unreasonable IF that’s the kind of marriage you have. I get the impression it isn’t though, the man you married has no female friends, never has, but has previously been unfaithful (to you?). The man you married was never going to be okay with this, you know him well so you must have sort of known that already maybe?
It’s only a few posts from you here, and I could be very wrong, but I sort of get the impression you have your doubts about your husband, like maybe you don’t respect him or like him that much. That’s okay, from what you’ve said of him it sounds like he’s not that likeable, but are you being honest with him about that? If so, that’s likely why he’s insecure, if not, he might suspect it anyway.
The true advice is find a way to respect your husband again or set him free. Life is too short to be tolerating a man you don’t like as a favour to him or your children.

Calliopespa · 21/09/2024 21:34

Penguinmouse · 21/09/2024 20:48

Everyone suggesting that it was a bad thing to do because you’re having couples counselling… you set up a play date with another parent! You aren’t just texting a random man you met, the purpose is to arrange something for you child. If your husband is that insecure, no wonder you need counselling. If he’s that alarmed, maybe he could take up that bit of the parenting load and arrange the play date.

Actually op I presume that post was meant flippantly but could that in fact be a way forward.
Tell DH you’ll take the counselling session and he can go with the sahd. That way he gets to meet him, ( which might help), you demonstrate you were only going for the Dc , the Dc don’t miss out and there is no embarrassing cancellation with the sahd. You can just say something has come up but DH is coming. Also sends the message to sahd you are in a functional marriage - just in case “ a trip to the petting zoo” was code for something altogether different. Anyway hope that poor guy isn’t on MN!

Swollenandgrouchy · 21/09/2024 20:52

I made friends with a dad who works part time and often attended local things with his DC at the same time I was there with my DC. Our DC get on really well and are the same age.

We are good friends now and sometimes meet up with the dad, the mum, or the whole family. We had them round for lunch and a play date today - they all came but I arranged it with the dad as he tends to be the organiser. It would be such a shame for our kids and us as adults if we hadn’t been allowed to be friends / organise anything because someone has a penis!

Penguinmouse · 21/09/2024 20:48

Everyone suggesting that it was a bad thing to do because you’re having couples counselling… you set up a play date with another parent! You aren’t just texting a random man you met, the purpose is to arrange something for you child. If your husband is that insecure, no wonder you need counselling. If he’s that alarmed, maybe he could take up that bit of the parenting load and arrange the play date.

ThisOldThang · 21/09/2024 20:42

A male friend who was a SAHP left his wife after falling in love with a mum that he met in similar circumstances.

Calliopespa · 21/09/2024 20:38

minipie · 21/09/2024 16:02

Logically there is no reason not to do this meet up.

Emotionally I can absolutely see your DH’s point of view. He’s heading off to couples counselling to try to help your ailing marriage and you’re off meeting another bloke. It doesn’t quite say “I am putting my all into saving this marriage” does it.

Just don’t. It’s a small sacrifice to make while you hopefully get your marriage more solid. Once it (hopefully) is more secure then this kind of meet up should be fine. Just not right now.

I think this is sensible advice.

minipie · 21/09/2024 16:02

Logically there is no reason not to do this meet up.

Emotionally I can absolutely see your DH’s point of view. He’s heading off to couples counselling to try to help your ailing marriage and you’re off meeting another bloke. It doesn’t quite say “I am putting my all into saving this marriage” does it.

Just don’t. It’s a small sacrifice to make while you hopefully get your marriage more solid. Once it (hopefully) is more secure then this kind of meet up should be fine. Just not right now.

Calliopespa · 21/09/2024 15:55

DoggingDave · 21/09/2024 15:16

Thanks simple solutions are often the most effective, as they eliminate unnecessary B/S and provide clarity. Right now that's needed by Op and Op Dh. To plan the next steps forward with this.

Exactly. I was going to suggest something a little more convoluted, namely sniffing out some copulating farm animals at the play date 🐖🐗and watching veerrry carefully for a reaction, especially giving you the side eye op 👀. But a nude photo is much more to the point . 👍

Calliopespa · 21/09/2024 15:49

timeforanewmoniker · 21/09/2024 10:51

How do you know?

She tried it and he was I guess.

sunshine244 · 21/09/2024 15:28

Emck3334 · 21/09/2024 11:33

I just asked my husband how he would feel and his response was 'well he could fuck off... have you meeting up with single men. No way' And I agree with him

Does that mean that as a single mum I am not allowed to speak to married men any more? But it was OK when I was married?

I hadn't realised that being single meant I will now suddenly want to have affairs with every man I come across 😂

DoggingDave · 21/09/2024 15:16

StripyShirt · 21/09/2024 14:27

Best answer so far 😃

Thanks simple solutions are often the most effective, as they eliminate unnecessary B/S and provide clarity. Right now that's needed by Op and Op Dh. To plan the next steps forward with this.

StripyShirt · 21/09/2024 14:27

DoggingDave · 21/09/2024 11:38

Op have you considered sending over a couple nudes to this other Dad to test the waters? You'll soon see if he's up for more than a play date. The you and your DH can make a plan of where to go with it from there.

Best answer so far 😃

Doris86 · 21/09/2024 12:11

Emck3334 · 21/09/2024 11:33

I just asked my husband how he would feel and his response was 'well he could fuck off... have you meeting up with single men. No way' And I agree with him

😂You’re joking right? You and your husband seriously think that men and women can’t speak to each other without wanting to shag?

Spinet · 21/09/2024 11:41

There are so many odd attitudes on this thread but mainly it's very clear that most people have not been on a playdate to a farm park in their lives if they think it's a good way to start an affair.

(I do think if you're having couples counselling and he's asked you not to, it's fair enough for you to have a conversation about it though).

DoggingDave · 21/09/2024 11:38

Op have you considered sending over a couple nudes to this other Dad to test the waters? You'll soon see if he's up for more than a play date. The you and your DH can make a plan of where to go with it from there.

Emck3334 · 21/09/2024 11:33

I just asked my husband how he would feel and his response was 'well he could fuck off... have you meeting up with single men. No way' And I agree with him

timeforanewmoniker · 21/09/2024 10:51

Wantitalltogoaway · 21/09/2024 09:30

Wtf?

I’m a single mum and have several male dad friends who I comfortably hang out with. None of them is ‘willing to take it further’ and would probably be horrified if I ‘showed willing’.

How do you know?

Calliopespa · 21/09/2024 10:28

Wantitalltogoaway · 21/09/2024 09:30

Wtf?

I’m a single mum and have several male dad friends who I comfortably hang out with. None of them is ‘willing to take it further’ and would probably be horrified if I ‘showed willing’.

🤣

Kaete · 21/09/2024 10:10

It is such a shame that you cancelled, of course you can have play dates/a possible friendship with someone of the opposite sex. All this tells me is he feels you can't be trusted with this man, which isn't fair.

ClairDeLaLune · 21/09/2024 09:53

Your DH is being ridiculous. No wonder you’re in couples counselling if he doesn’t trust you and tries to control who you’re friends with.

GROMIT50 · 21/09/2024 09:40

Resilience · 17/09/2024 08:17

Not everyone will agree but IMO YANBU and your DH is being a dick. Unless you tell me you've had an affair or inappropriately intense relationships with men before and that's what's responsible for your need to have couples counselling, this is no different to play dates with another mum.

You being serious the husband is acting exactly the same way, as most you women would be, I have seen so many post with husband having a female friend most of you are saying it's an affair.

Inspireme2 · 21/09/2024 09:37

No person beside a few of us will agree with a opposite sex friendship.
As long as it is a friendship I see no problem.
It's natural and normal.
Get your partner to go along to if he's angry.

Wantitalltogoaway · 21/09/2024 09:30

Howdull · 17/09/2024 08:21

I don't think there's much point having couples counselling if you're going out on play dates with another man, sorry.

Either don't go, and pour everything into the couples counselling - or just leave the relationship and go out for play dates with this guy who I'm sure will be willing to take it further if you show willing.

Wtf?

I’m a single mum and have several male dad friends who I comfortably hang out with. None of them is ‘willing to take it further’ and would probably be horrified if I ‘showed willing’.