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To tell my neighbour he's a fucking knobhead

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NobbyNeighbour · 17/09/2024 07:54

So we have a bungalow at the back of us, always got on with the lady who lived there. We have a thick conifer hedge between us which is about 8ft tall. It's our hedge, dh cuts the height and our side. Occasionally she would ask us to cut her side and being nice I would send dh to do it even though technically it's her responsibility.

Her adult (in his 40s) son moved in and the word is in the village he's not nice but I never had anything to do with him. Then last year he came banging on our front door ranting at dd about the hedge. Told her "tell your parents they've got till 5pm tonight to decide what they're doing, either they cut my side of the hedge this weekend or I cut it and send them the bill". Really shouty. I didn't bother going round to discuss with him as I knew neither option would be occurring. It was a foot deep in snow so hardly hedge cutting weather and I'm not paying for something that's his responsibility. He's never been back and hasn't cut the hedge.

Then yesterday evening he lights a bonfire 2ft from our hedge. It's not the first big fire he's had on the boundary but this was the worst. Right on our side of the hedge we have a garden office. The flames were at least 9ft high, I could see them over the hedge. He's a cowboy builder and often has bonfires as he burns stuff from his work. Ash was raining down all over the garden. I was scared for the hedge and garden office, I could smell petrol so think he'd put petrol on it. There were little bangs and explosions so God knows what he was burning. I started shouting at him and he was laughing and shouting "you need to cut your hedge". I lost my shit at that point and called him a fucking knobhead and dialled 999. Fire brigade put the fire out. But apparently he felt I was overreacting. Stupid idiot has actually burnt the fascia board on his own garage!

I don't even think he's doing it to try and damage the hedge, I just think he's as thick as mince and doesn't give a shit. Apparently he's always threatening people in the village. I know he was mouthing off in the shop a bit ago threatening to burn some people out if he found who had objected to his planning permission.

So while I'm still mad as hell I'm also slightly nervous! I videoed quite a bit yesterday, not sure if I contacted the council whether they'd talk to him about the bonfires but guess I can't prove he's burning non domestic stuff?

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Allaboutthecrazies · 19/09/2024 23:17

Shocking how many people think you should be going round and cutting the hedge. It was nice of you to do while you did it but as you've rightly researched, it's not your responsibility to.
As annoying as maintaining a hedge that you didn't ask for is, it's just one of those things in life / law.

Wanttomakemincepies · 19/09/2024 22:00

For everyone saying it’s OP’s responsibility. I have an elderly neighbour. Her garden plants are invading my garden. We had to get a new fence as they had grown through. They are not my plants, I didn’t want them. Surely I should be making her keep them trimmed going off the consensus on here.

Reallyneedsaholiday · 19/09/2024 19:43

What HE needs to do, is cut the branches back on his side of the hedge and then put up a fence so the trees don’t affect him. And YOU need to keep them to less than 2m high (that’s under 7’ tall) and ensure that the trees don’t damage his fence.

Allergictoironing · 19/09/2024 18:39

sandycornishcrocs · 18/09/2024 15:57

Of course you should trim the hedge. We have a hedge that grows on the other side in our neighbours garden. It’s an absolute no brainer that it’s your responsibility. You are also out of order to call him what you did. He sounds like an idiot.

But the neighbour has made it dangerous, if not impossible, for them to cut the hedge by piling unsafe rubble up against it!

sandycornishcrocs · 18/09/2024 15:57

Of course you should trim the hedge. We have a hedge that grows on the other side in our neighbours garden. It’s an absolute no brainer that it’s your responsibility. You are also out of order to call him what you did. He sounds like an idiot.

Tessasanderson · 18/09/2024 15:52

Cantalever · 18/09/2024 13:14

Leaving aside whose responsibility it is to cut the neighbour's side, in your shoes I would offer to do it just to avoid him doing something destructive himself. I wouldn't want to actually talk to him given his aggression, but would write (keep a copy) saying you want to cut his side but access is difficult on his side, so could he remove rubble, make an even surface etc. so you can do the work. Keep a record of correspondence and any incidents, plus when work is done to the hedge.

Seems very simple when you put it like that.

Whattodo1610 · 18/09/2024 14:40

NobbyNeighbour · 18/09/2024 12:58

Not changed my mind. They’re “my” hedges because the deeds clearly show it’s our property’s boundary/responsibility. I didn’t plant them though, the house is a 100 years old. I’m presuming a previous occupant planted them.

In that case you were daft to even start cutting them in the first place.

Cantalever · 18/09/2024 13:14

Leaving aside whose responsibility it is to cut the neighbour's side, in your shoes I would offer to do it just to avoid him doing something destructive himself. I wouldn't want to actually talk to him given his aggression, but would write (keep a copy) saying you want to cut his side but access is difficult on his side, so could he remove rubble, make an even surface etc. so you can do the work. Keep a record of correspondence and any incidents, plus when work is done to the hedge.

NobbyNeighbour · 18/09/2024 12:58

Whattodo1610 · 18/09/2024 09:51

If I bought a house that already had established hedges, there’d be no need to cut the neighbours side. OP has said they’re her hedges, implying she planted them, well then she has to take responsibility for them invading her neighbours. OP later said, they’re not something we’d have planted, so actually, no idea what’s going on as OP seems to change her mind. But, if they’re not OP’s then why say they are, and why cut the neighbours side for 20 years 🤷‍♀️🤔

Not changed my mind. They’re “my” hedges because the deeds clearly show it’s our property’s boundary/responsibility. I didn’t plant them though, the house is a 100 years old. I’m presuming a previous occupant planted them.

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Glimber · 18/09/2024 12:04

NobbyNeighbour · 17/09/2024 10:55

It’s a hedge instead of a fence. If we removed it his dogs would be in our garden and potentially on the main road.

It's unusual for a hedge to be fully dogproof.

If the hedge were to become damaged, it would be his responsibility to keep his dog contained so he would need to put a fence up, even though (presumably) the boundary is yours. Your job is just to maintain the boundary, you have no obligation to make it dogproof. However in practice this would just be a different, nasty battle to have with him.

People who know the detail of the law are usually different people from those who threaten and demand things from their neighbours.

I'm still glad I live next to my neighbours, who cut their whole hedge, though.

Zingy123 · 18/09/2024 11:20

You sound very selfish. You should be maintaining the hedge why should they need to do any work on something you want. Our neighbours have huge trees that overhang our boundary. I hate them and the work it takes us to maintain them. Constantly clearing up the leaves in the autumn and winter.

TealPoet · 18/09/2024 11:16

I think you’ve been very reasonable with his mum and although I can’t say I like anyone being called what you called him, you aren’t wrong! But I am genuinely worried you may have put yourself in danger - he sounds dreadful! Please document everything, call the Fire Brigade for any big/dangerous fires, and the Police if you feel threatened. I can’t imagine how scary all this is :(

CecilyP · 18/09/2024 11:04

Mummyoflabradors · 17/09/2024 16:19

Why should her neighbours be responsible for a hedge she planted?
We have hedging on two sides and always maintain both sides, its common decency.

It’s not really! You have no legal right to enter your neighbours property. You’re not even likely to know who they are if they’re at the back rather than next door

This summer, I got a gardener to cut some overgrown ivy at my back which could best be done from the other side. First I had to work out which street it was in, find exact house, ask the resident’s permission to enter her garden then warn her of the exact date and time that a strange man would be appearing in her garden!

Whattodo1610 · 18/09/2024 09:51

If I bought a house that already had established hedges, there’d be no need to cut the neighbours side. OP has said they’re her hedges, implying she planted them, well then she has to take responsibility for them invading her neighbours. OP later said, they’re not something we’d have planted, so actually, no idea what’s going on as OP seems to change her mind. But, if they’re not OP’s then why say they are, and why cut the neighbours side for 20 years 🤷‍♀️🤔

NobbyNeighbour · 17/09/2024 20:58

RollerRunner · 17/09/2024 20:53

He sounds awful but I'd really hate to be having to deal with the work and expense of trimming a hedge like that. They are ugly an a pain to keep tidy. If you got it cut right back on his side the. It won't regrow where it's been cut back to if it's cut back far enough. . That would be worth doing to stop the aggro.

He could potentially get you to reduce the height using the high hedge legislation. I'm not sure though.

I can’t cut his side, can’t get near it 🤷‍♀️.

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RollerRunner · 17/09/2024 20:53

He sounds awful but I'd really hate to be having to deal with the work and expense of trimming a hedge like that. They are ugly an a pain to keep tidy. If you got it cut right back on his side the. It won't regrow where it's been cut back to if it's cut back far enough. . That would be worth doing to stop the aggro.

He could potentially get you to reduce the height using the high hedge legislation. I'm not sure though.

PrincessofWells · 17/09/2024 20:43

midgetastic · 17/09/2024 11:48

Whilst either side can do things to a hedge such as trim it , The neighbours who own the hedge are responsible for maintenance - which would include both sides

Doesn't seem ambiguous

That is not what the law says.

NobbyNeighbour · 17/09/2024 20:39

StoatofDisarray · 17/09/2024 20:22

Couldn't have put it better myself. A pox on both your houses!

we have done it every time we’ve been asked, numerous times in 20 years. We did not do it when he ranted and threatened dd. Mainly because this is the state of his garden. Couldn’t get near it with a step ladder if we wanted to.

he’s had this massive pile of rubble and rubbish against our hedge for over a year. At least the big holes and mini digger have gone.

To tell my neighbour he's a fucking knobhead
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StoatofDisarray · 17/09/2024 20:22

Tessasanderson · 17/09/2024 09:07

TBH you all sound horrible. He is indeed a knobhead for being aggressive and lighting fires. Your attitude towards the hedge on his side not being your problem marks you out as similar in my book. The odd trim for his mum was fine, but its not fine now. Its your hedge. Regrdless of the law etc its your hedge and he obviously is sick of it. IMO you have a responsibility to see it from his POV an maintain it to his satisfaction or at least make the effort. ITS YOUR HEDGE.

Just happy its similar minded people getting each others backs up

Couldn't have put it better myself. A pox on both your houses!

NobbyNeighbour · 17/09/2024 20:01

Carrotmccarrotface · 17/09/2024 19:54

Me too. It’s so inconsiderate. Leyandis suck all moisture out of the surrounding soil too. They are such hideous things to live next to.

It’s not something we’d have planted at all.

Saying that when there’s an idiot neighbour behind you it makes an effective barrier. My next door neighbours have a fence at the bottom of their garden which is also the boundary of the same guy at the bottom. He’s wrecked their fence panels by leaning stuff up them. So no way am I replacing the hedge!

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Carrotmccarrotface · 17/09/2024 19:54

itsgoingtobeabumpyride · 17/09/2024 11:36

My ndn (have good ndn one side) the one I'm referring to is not so good.
They have a massive hedge to the height of my guttering, the hedge is on their side of the 6ft fence.
It overhangs my garden, weeds and vines are intertwined in it, the vines attach themselves to my guttering and then my solar panels.
Do you have any idea how difficult & bloody irritating it is to keep on top of someone else's hedge, the expensive, the hard work, the difficulty getting rid of the rubbish?
I'm late 50's and it's finally beaten me.
It annoys me every time I look out into the garden, I keep on top of my garden, it's my sanctuary which is being ruined by inconsiderate ndn's.
I don't agree with the actions of your neighbour but why should he have to deal with your hedge, it's yours, you should maintain it both sides.

Me too. It’s so inconsiderate. Leyandis suck all moisture out of the surrounding soil too. They are such hideous things to live next to.

NobbyNeighbour · 17/09/2024 19:43

Allergictoironing · 17/09/2024 19:33

When it was just the older woman living there, OP's husband DID cut the hedge whenever she asked.

Then her younger son moved in, presumably fit and healthy as he's a builder, and made the ground on his side of the hedge unsafe for anyone to cut said hedge. Then comes round in the depths of winter (so already unsafe ground made even less safe by a covering of snow) and verbally abuses OP's daughter. No asking nicely as his mother used to do, just aggressively confrontational from the word go the first time he demanded that the hedge be trimmed.

I think the "common decency" bird oft quoted on this thread flew away at the first encounter.

Quite. My dh is in his 60s now and sick. I’m disabled and not very steady on my feet. Obviously if we were legally obliged to cut his side we’d have to sort something at our cost. We cut it for years for his mum, she hasn’t asked us to since before Covid. I’d assumed seeing as he’d moved in he was taking over.

ive been googling like mad today and there’s enough legal firm websites with qualified solicitors saying we legally don’t have to.

In the past we’ve done it to be good neighbours. I can’t imagine us doing it again, not after the way he spoke to Dd. And not after the bonfires.

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Allergictoironing · 17/09/2024 19:33

Mummyoflabradors · 17/09/2024 16:25

Who’s shouting? Why should her neighbour maintain op’s hedge? She didn’t ask for it to be planted🤷‍♀️
What if the neighbours old or hates gardening, why should her garden look a mess because of someone else’s hedge?

When it was just the older woman living there, OP's husband DID cut the hedge whenever she asked.

Then her younger son moved in, presumably fit and healthy as he's a builder, and made the ground on his side of the hedge unsafe for anyone to cut said hedge. Then comes round in the depths of winter (so already unsafe ground made even less safe by a covering of snow) and verbally abuses OP's daughter. No asking nicely as his mother used to do, just aggressively confrontational from the word go the first time he demanded that the hedge be trimmed.

I think the "common decency" bird oft quoted on this thread flew away at the first encounter.

Pixiedust1234 · 17/09/2024 17:19

It's not the law though. It is showing advice for councils and if you read the linked pdf file then it says that a tall hedge by itself is not valid for a complaint and should be dismissed. However if the tall hedge is right next to the complainants window then it should be followed up (loss of light). So it needs an extra factor with the over 2 meters for it to be valid.

Jammedchakra · 17/09/2024 16:40

Mummyoflabradors · 17/09/2024 16:19

Why should her neighbours be responsible for a hedge she planted?
We have hedging on two sides and always maintain both sides, its common decency.

We have 75m of hedge down both sides of our garden, but both are ours. They were here before all our neighbours, and before we moved in. There are no fences, everyone knew what they were getting when they moved in. Hedges grow, if they grow into your garden, you cut them. That’s how it works.

If you’re cutting 4 lengths of hedge (both sides x 2?) good luck to you.