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Was my weekend guest rude?

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KerryBay · 17/09/2024 04:46

I hosted my friend for the first time at my home this weekend, they stayed for 3 nights. Each of these days my partner cooked breakfast, lunch, and dinner except for one time out for lunch and dinner. Not one of these home cooked meals did they thank me or my partner for preparing them or that they enjoyed it.

Additionally, any free moment spent at the house or when driving with them, they spent buried in their phones playing random games or on social media. If they weren’t on their phones, it was sitting by them the entire time and they would check it constantly or be texting random friends of theirs instead of talking to me. It surprised me as times I have spent with this friend prior at their home they not once did this with their phone.

Lastly, I have a young child who was very excited to see them and I told them in advance she would want to talk to them a lot and show them her stuff. They did say they have very little experience with children, however they acted like any moment my child wanted their attention, it was almost painful for them to engage with her. It didn’t seem to really register with my child, but it hurt my feelings as my child was being very typical for her age and being excited for having a new friend (for her) over at her home. They would still engage with her but I could tell it was very forced, and they did not want to be doing so, it seemed to bring them no joy and instead annoyance. When my child was not present, they would make comments like “thank god she left, that’s exhausting!”. It felt inappropriate to me and I felt guilty for my child being a child.

Some things they did do that were considerate were they made their bed when they left, they did seem to “try their best” to engage with my child despite doing so begrudgingly, and they did pay for our appetizer at dinner.

All things considered though I found myself after they left feeling a little resentful for how they treated my family and I, but I also wonder if I am overthinking it? Thank you in advance for your input.

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ouch321 · 17/09/2024 08:00

Waitingfordoggo · 17/09/2024 07:38

I know that some people don’t like children and I accept that, but imagine if people said the same thing about other life stages. Imagine if people said ‘I don’t like old people’. That would be weird, wouldn’t it? Or if someone didn’t want to come to your house because your elderly relative was there, on the grounds that they might repeat themselves, talk about boring things, or are a messy eater.

I doubt an 'old person' would try and put Playdoh in your hair, climb on you like you're playground equipment, wipe their snot on your jeans etc etc.

By her own admission the guest tried to be nice to the child but the problem (as so often on here) is that parents think that others should worship their offspring like they do. Not gonna happen.

HanaLeigh · 17/09/2024 07:57

Yes, really rude. They were not ‘in the room’ with you.

Could be nervous about their visit or struggle with social interaction but if they do, they need to practice not revert to burying their head in interaction beyond you.

Seaoftroubles · 17/09/2024 07:48

Rude ungrateful behaviour all round by your entitled friend! I would make that the last time you host him.

LBFseBrom · 17/09/2024 07:48

I'm sorry you found the weekend difficult. You start off by saying you hosted 'a friend' and then talk about 'they' and 'their phones'. How many friends and how many phones :-)?

It is now early Tuesday morning and she/they spent three nights over the weekend with you; I bet you anything you will soon receive a note or a message thanking you for your hospitality, that is the usual etiquette. It's too soon after the event for you to be complaining.

It's possible your friend or friends were not at ease staying in someone else's home and did not quite know how to behave. That isn't unusual, it can be extremely stressful and a great relief to get home, no matter how nice the hosts. I doubt very much if friend(s) meant any offence and would probably be mortified to know you are not happy.

One night would probably have been enough and maybe more casual..

Put it behind you now.

ChampagneLassie · 17/09/2024 07:45

But yeah if someone was like that about my daughter that would be the worst bit,

Beautiful3 · 17/09/2024 07:44

Yes all of it was rude. I'd still be friends with him, but never have them in my house again.

ChampagneLassie · 17/09/2024 07:44

Super rude. We’ve just had guests and encouraged them to help themselves food wise and they also arranged / cooked food. How did they just pay for appetiser? Surely they should have paid whole dinner. They sound rude and cheap

Ottersmith · 17/09/2024 07:42

What was the purpose of the visit though? Were they staying because they needed somewhere to stay whilst in town? Or was it a specific visit to see you and spend time with you. When someone visits me because they need somewhere to stay I don't expect them to give me full attention all the time, on the assumption that no one wants to interact all day long and they need time off. 3 days is a long time to engage with someone. Maybe they were expecting things to be a bit more casual and to sort out their own meals? I wouldn't get caught up over someone not saying thank you if they were my friend.

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/09/2024 07:41

Phone, yes really rude. Would have to have said something.

Child, not so much. I can remember feeling that little children were aliens before we had ours. Wouldn’t have been unpleasant to any but certainly wouldn’t have known how to engage.

You’ve just outgrown each other for the time being.

Waitingfordoggo · 17/09/2024 07:39

Sorry, not really directly relevant to the OP but was just thinking about the whole ‘don’t like kids’ thing that we see a lot on MN.

Imbusytodaysorry · 17/09/2024 07:38

ChiliFiend · 17/09/2024 05:03

That all reads like the behaviour of a younger teen who hasn't fully learned how to socialise politely with others. I'm assuming they're an adult and if so, don't have them back.

I agree .

what age is the friend OP

Waitingfordoggo · 17/09/2024 07:38

I know that some people don’t like children and I accept that, but imagine if people said the same thing about other life stages. Imagine if people said ‘I don’t like old people’. That would be weird, wouldn’t it? Or if someone didn’t want to come to your house because your elderly relative was there, on the grounds that they might repeat themselves, talk about boring things, or are a messy eater.

Mymanyellow · 17/09/2024 07:35

Is this a couple as in ‘they’ or just a man in his early 40s. Not that it makes too much difference yes rude. Sitting scrolling on your phone in company is rude. Should have said thanks for the meals and could have at least paid for one takeaway. Hope your daughter wasn’t upset by being ignored.

Barbarella73 · 17/09/2024 07:33

thoonerismspread · 17/09/2024 07:30

I agree with this. Very rude. Should have bought you a gift too.
I'd like more information however! How long have you known this person? Has anything like this happened before or any signs that it might? Did he seem happy about the pending visit?

I will add that I female early 40s, have little experience with children and am quite awkward around them. I've been blessed recently to have become close to a little girl who is a friends niece, and she has taught me a lot! But generally, I'm not sure what to say or do eith children, what is age appropriate to be like with them etc.

But and it is a big but! Children tend to like me and want to spend time with me which I like, and I make the damn effort for them! Even if I get it slightly wrong at times. My awkwardness/lack of experience is my issue, nobody else's. I certainly would make the effort as a guest at one's house and I most definitely wouldn't be rude about a child to its parent. That is beyond rude, and classless. Who does this man think he is?!

I'm glad your daughter didn't seem to notice the attitude toward her.

I’d like more info too OP - 3 days seems like a long stay for a first time overnight guest. How long have you known your friend?

Howdull · 17/09/2024 07:33

When you say they never thanked you for a meal what do you mean? What exactly DID they say when you put dinner under their nose?

thoonerismspread · 17/09/2024 07:33

I'm not sure about the phone use. If just hanging about at someone's house. Depending on if they didn't make an effort to talk to you and fannied about on the phone instead, all the time. Amusing yourself with something be it a phone, book, game or gadget while not much else is going on, is fair enough for some time at least. I agree not if it was constant however.

Lemonadeand · 17/09/2024 07:31

KerryBay · 17/09/2024 05:40

My friend is in their early 40s, is a male.

Urgh they behaved like a teenager

thoonerismspread · 17/09/2024 07:30

spicysugar · 17/09/2024 07:19

He was very rude. It costs nothing to say thank you and be appreciative about meals someone cooks for you. He should have bought you a present or offered to pay for one of your meals out in entirety.

I get what people are saying about other people's children and it would have been annoying if he'd arranged a lunch out and you turned up with a small child without telling him, but he was staying in your house. What are you supposed to do with her? Extremely rude to make comments about her when she left the room/house.

Some looking at your phone is understandable over a weekend. It can be difficult to maintain chitchat for that length of time. However, constantly scrolling and ignoring you and your husband is very rude too.

I think it tells you all you need to know about this friend.

I agree with this. Very rude. Should have bought you a gift too.
I'd like more information however! How long have you known this person? Has anything like this happened before or any signs that it might? Did he seem happy about the pending visit?

I will add that I female early 40s, have little experience with children and am quite awkward around them. I've been blessed recently to have become close to a little girl who is a friends niece, and she has taught me a lot! But generally, I'm not sure what to say or do eith children, what is age appropriate to be like with them etc.

But and it is a big but! Children tend to like me and want to spend time with me which I like, and I make the damn effort for them! Even if I get it slightly wrong at times. My awkwardness/lack of experience is my issue, nobody else's. I certainly would make the effort as a guest at one's house and I most definitely wouldn't be rude about a child to its parent. That is beyond rude, and classless. Who does this man think he is?!

I'm glad your daughter didn't seem to notice the attitude toward her.

sheep73 · 17/09/2024 07:29

Other people's kids are a pain and interrupt conversations relentlessly which is tedious. However to comment on this to you is thoughtless.

The endless phone use and lack of gratitude is rude.

Drop them like a hot potato and move on.

BarbaraHoward · 17/09/2024 07:27

Completelyneutralname · 17/09/2024 07:21

Really? Why bother visiting then? In a quiet moment, yes. But surely you visit people to hang out with them? Otherwise you might as well stay at home.

All day long for three days is a bit much though. And what OP describes is a quiet moment - hanging around the house or in the car.

Sassybooklover · 17/09/2024 07:25

As you and your husband cooked for the majority of the 3 days, it wouldn't have hurt if your guest had paid for dinner, rather than just starters. If your friend had been staying in a hotel for 3 nights, it would have cost her much more than the price of starters! Spending time on her phone is rude, especially if it was consistent. As for your child, some people are not 'child orientated' and find interacting with them awkward and difficult. She tried, but clearly didn't find the experience thrilling!! The comments were probably meant light-hearted, and may be it was a way of her expressing the fact she found it awkward. Even so, she should have kept her mouth shut.

lowlight · 17/09/2024 07:22

3 nights is along time to host anyone especially for the first time when you have no idea about what they are like to live with.

Simply don't have them back ever again and don't host again for 3 days.

Cupooee · 17/09/2024 07:22

Very rude on many levels and mean.
Would never be repeated.
Bet they ask again though.

The comment about your child is unacceptable.
I certainly wouldn't host them again.

Completelyneutralname · 17/09/2024 07:21

Fescue · 17/09/2024 06:02

Before mobile phones, it was very common to pick up a book or a magazine when staying with friends and completely ignore what was going on around you. Many a friend would pick up a Yellow Pages or a medical reference book and would be randomly turning pages from dawn to dusk.

Really? Why bother visiting then? In a quiet moment, yes. But surely you visit people to hang out with them? Otherwise you might as well stay at home.

spicysugar · 17/09/2024 07:19

He was very rude. It costs nothing to say thank you and be appreciative about meals someone cooks for you. He should have bought you a present or offered to pay for one of your meals out in entirety.

I get what people are saying about other people's children and it would have been annoying if he'd arranged a lunch out and you turned up with a small child without telling him, but he was staying in your house. What are you supposed to do with her? Extremely rude to make comments about her when she left the room/house.

Some looking at your phone is understandable over a weekend. It can be difficult to maintain chitchat for that length of time. However, constantly scrolling and ignoring you and your husband is very rude too.

I think it tells you all you need to know about this friend.

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