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Was my weekend guest rude?

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KerryBay · 17/09/2024 04:46

I hosted my friend for the first time at my home this weekend, they stayed for 3 nights. Each of these days my partner cooked breakfast, lunch, and dinner except for one time out for lunch and dinner. Not one of these home cooked meals did they thank me or my partner for preparing them or that they enjoyed it.

Additionally, any free moment spent at the house or when driving with them, they spent buried in their phones playing random games or on social media. If they weren’t on their phones, it was sitting by them the entire time and they would check it constantly or be texting random friends of theirs instead of talking to me. It surprised me as times I have spent with this friend prior at their home they not once did this with their phone.

Lastly, I have a young child who was very excited to see them and I told them in advance she would want to talk to them a lot and show them her stuff. They did say they have very little experience with children, however they acted like any moment my child wanted their attention, it was almost painful for them to engage with her. It didn’t seem to really register with my child, but it hurt my feelings as my child was being very typical for her age and being excited for having a new friend (for her) over at her home. They would still engage with her but I could tell it was very forced, and they did not want to be doing so, it seemed to bring them no joy and instead annoyance. When my child was not present, they would make comments like “thank god she left, that’s exhausting!”. It felt inappropriate to me and I felt guilty for my child being a child.

Some things they did do that were considerate were they made their bed when they left, they did seem to “try their best” to engage with my child despite doing so begrudgingly, and they did pay for our appetizer at dinner.

All things considered though I found myself after they left feeling a little resentful for how they treated my family and I, but I also wonder if I am overthinking it? Thank you in advance for your input.

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Picklelily99 · 30/06/2025 17:26

So he invited himself over because you live somewhere nice? Didn't interact at all well? Didn't have any manners? Had no saving grace at all really except he made his bed? Well woop de doo - he'll not be terribly missed then, will he? Oh, and he should be UNMAKING his bed, stripping the sheets ready for washing! Mucky pup!

GillianCarole · 30/06/2025 13:33

KerryBay · 17/09/2024 04:46

I hosted my friend for the first time at my home this weekend, they stayed for 3 nights. Each of these days my partner cooked breakfast, lunch, and dinner except for one time out for lunch and dinner. Not one of these home cooked meals did they thank me or my partner for preparing them or that they enjoyed it.

Additionally, any free moment spent at the house or when driving with them, they spent buried in their phones playing random games or on social media. If they weren’t on their phones, it was sitting by them the entire time and they would check it constantly or be texting random friends of theirs instead of talking to me. It surprised me as times I have spent with this friend prior at their home they not once did this with their phone.

Lastly, I have a young child who was very excited to see them and I told them in advance she would want to talk to them a lot and show them her stuff. They did say they have very little experience with children, however they acted like any moment my child wanted their attention, it was almost painful for them to engage with her. It didn’t seem to really register with my child, but it hurt my feelings as my child was being very typical for her age and being excited for having a new friend (for her) over at her home. They would still engage with her but I could tell it was very forced, and they did not want to be doing so, it seemed to bring them no joy and instead annoyance. When my child was not present, they would make comments like “thank god she left, that’s exhausting!”. It felt inappropriate to me and I felt guilty for my child being a child.

Some things they did do that were considerate were they made their bed when they left, they did seem to “try their best” to engage with my child despite doing so begrudgingly, and they did pay for our appetizer at dinner.

All things considered though I found myself after they left feeling a little resentful for how they treated my family and I, but I also wonder if I am overthinking it? Thank you in advance for your input.

They only paid for the starter not the whole meal? They should have done that, at least, as they had full board with you for several days. Wouldn't have them back, certainly.

RadFs · 25/09/2024 11:31

Hi @KerryBay have you heard from your inconsiderate friend since he left? Just out of curiosity which town is it? Seems like a nice place to visit

Justanothermum42 · 24/09/2024 16:01

Are you sure these people are your friends?!

MarkWithaC · 24/09/2024 08:32

CaptainMyCaptain · 24/09/2024 07:50

Before I had my own children I didn’t know how to engage with other people’s kids. Did you go and stay with them and be insulting about their children?

Exactly this.
Lack of confidence. Poor lamb Hmm
I presume people saying stuff like this are otherwise socialised and functioning adults; why do small children particularly cause them to suddenly lose all capacity?
Until recently I had little experience of kids, and I still don’t much like interacting with them in general. But I am absolutely capable of not saying disparaging things to their parents about them. And could this man, if he didn’t want to or know how to read to the kid, at the very least not even say, ‘You should step in here’ to the parent? I’ve said things along those lines, in a joking, ‘I’m a bit hopeless, help me out!’ way.

As for not saying thank you when your host has cooked for you, while it doesn’t need to be every meal I’m astounded that people think never showing any appreciation or commenting on the food is ok. And does it not ever just come up e.g. ‘Oh, I’ve never had potatoes like this, how do you do them, they’re nice?’?

CaptainMyCaptain · 24/09/2024 07:50

Before I had my own children I didn’t know how to engage with other people’s kids. Did you go and stay with them and be insulting about their children?

Marvelsquirrel · 24/09/2024 04:48

Before I had my own children I didn’t know how to engage with other people’s kids. It was a lack of confidence. There’s a lot of pressure when you are trying to make friends with a child you have no experience of when you are being observed by the expert - their mum.
Now I know what kids generally like to do I am happy to engage but previously I felt worried I would do something to upset them.
With our own children we get to know them privately over a long period of time. We sometimes get it wrong but then we have plenty more chances to get it right.
So I wouldn’t be too hard on her about how she reacted to your child.
Not sure about the other stuff. I’m sure she was grateful. It can be hard to be in someone else’s home. Maybe with the phone games she thought you were busy with house stuff and so was trying to keep herself entertained until you were free.
I think cooking meals for guests is a given. I don’t expect people to say thank you after every one.

MarkWithaC · 23/09/2024 18:31

AbraAbraCadabra · 23/09/2024 17:24

Yep (if he knew to do that which he might not if he’s not familiar with kids) or the parent could have directed her elsewhere which is what I used to do with my child when he was bothering people who weren’t interested/didn’t know what to do.

How 'familiar with kids' do you need to be to be able to subtly rope in the kid's parent/indicate that you're not sure what to do?
Or he could have just said to the parent, 'Maybe you should take this' – the kid is hardly likely to notice or mind.
It's just basic initiative/common sense.
I'll say it again: he sounds like a useless lump.

AbraAbraCadabra · 23/09/2024 17:24

MarkWithaC · 23/09/2024 15:48

I'm saying this as someone with no massive aptitude or liking for kids: How hard is it to sit and read a book to a little kid for a bit?

In the OP's scenario, if he really couldn't bring himself to read (to the child of his host, who's meant to be a friend and who was putting him up and feeding him, but OK), he could have handled it much better; rather than just sitting awkwardly he could have said e.g. 'I bet Mummy's a better reader than me; shall we ask her?' and kind of telegraphed to you that he'd rather you did it. And maybe joined in a bit once the OP was reading.
He just sounds like a great useless lump with, as my mum would say, nothing about him.

Yep (if he knew to do that which he might not if he’s not familiar with kids) or the parent could have directed her elsewhere which is what I used to do with my child when he was bothering people who weren’t interested/didn’t know what to do.

MarkWithaC · 23/09/2024 15:48

AbraAbraCadabra · 23/09/2024 15:12

I disagree. You can be polite (albeit he sounds like he was rude in other ways) and not play with, read to, or watch performances of other people’s children. Your child can also learn that other people are not always going to want to entertain them. And that’s ok.

I'm saying this as someone with no massive aptitude or liking for kids: How hard is it to sit and read a book to a little kid for a bit?

In the OP's scenario, if he really couldn't bring himself to read (to the child of his host, who's meant to be a friend and who was putting him up and feeding him, but OK), he could have handled it much better; rather than just sitting awkwardly he could have said e.g. 'I bet Mummy's a better reader than me; shall we ask her?' and kind of telegraphed to you that he'd rather you did it. And maybe joined in a bit once the OP was reading.
He just sounds like a great useless lump with, as my mum would say, nothing about him.

AbraAbraCadabra · 23/09/2024 15:12

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/09/2024 08:15

If your friends have children those children live in their house, it's their home. I repeat, don't go and stay in a house where children live if you can't be bothered to interact with them and don't be rude about those children to their parents.

I disagree. You can be polite (albeit he sounds like he was rude in other ways) and not play with, read to, or watch performances of other people’s children. Your child can also learn that other people are not always going to want to entertain them. And that’s ok.

LBFseBrom · 23/09/2024 14:47

MountUnpleasant · 23/09/2024 08:59

It must've taken a lot of effort to use "they" repeatedly in the OP despite her knowing that he is a he! What's the point when she told us all he's male within the first few responses?

Yes, it's been used for a long time in specific scenarios, but this was utterly unnatural and makes for more difficult reading.

I think using 'they' and 'them' is quite ridiculous in most cases. The vast majority of us are either male or female.

Raffles76 · 23/09/2024 09:23

I also think it was a little cheap only paying for appetisers when they basically just had a free 3-day all-inclusive mini-break. Did they bring anything when they turned up? Wine, a gift for your little girl?
I too would have been really hurt if someone had commented about my child like that. If you don’t do well around children, don’t stay at their houses!

MountUnpleasant · 23/09/2024 08:59

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/09/2024 08:18

I don't think it made any difference whether the guest was male or female and 'they' has long been used in a situation where you either don't know the sex or don't want to say. It's not confusing at all because it didn't matter.

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It must've taken a lot of effort to use "they" repeatedly in the OP despite her knowing that he is a he! What's the point when she told us all he's male within the first few responses?

Yes, it's been used for a long time in specific scenarios, but this was utterly unnatural and makes for more difficult reading.

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/09/2024 08:18

VTown · 22/09/2024 23:18

Agree. I wasn't sure if she was talking about one person or two. Confusing.

I don't think it made any difference whether the guest was male or female and 'they' has long been used in a situation where you either don't know the sex or don't want to say. It's not confusing at all because it didn't matter.

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/09/2024 08:15

AbraAbraCadabra · 17/09/2024 18:44

So you should cut off your adult friends once they have children?!? Plenty of my friends don’t like the peoples kids. And I don’t like other peoples kids much either. I am friendly to them but I don’t want spend ages entertaining them. If I go to see a friend it’s to see them and have adult company, not interact with their children. I have never expected others to do so with my children either. If my children were annoying anyone I’d direct them away. Why do you think every one has to love your kids?

If your friends have children those children live in their house, it's their home. I repeat, don't go and stay in a house where children live if you can't be bothered to interact with them and don't be rude about those children to their parents.

snakeface · 23/09/2024 08:12

It's no wonder he can't get a partner. He sounds very socially unaware, as well as being mean, not very attractive

VTown · 22/09/2024 23:18

Lose7pounds · 17/09/2024 06:06

All that “they” stuff was very distracting, why hide that he was a male? It’s simply information. Yes he was rude.

Agree. I wasn't sure if she was talking about one person or two. Confusing.

KerryBay · 22/09/2024 18:40

OhcantthInkofaname · 22/09/2024 16:27

I'm wondering what the purpose of her visit was. Did you do some activity she would enjoy? Why did she visit!

He was interested in seeing our new home (we just moved here and bought this home) and the town we live in since he’s never been. It’s a unique, nice town and he had heard good things about it so he wanted to check it out.

Yes, we made sure to do things we know he enjoys, or so he says he enjoys, such as hiking and a new interest of his (mountain biking) which my husband and I are both very into. We also checked out a local archeological site because he had expressed interest in going. So we put considerable effort and thought towards entertaining him, showed him really stellar spots in the area he seemed like he would enjoy, but it all was very anti-climactic. He had nothing to say about any of it, and all around it was very dull entertaining him as a result honestly. My family and I had a good time however ha!

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KerryBay · 22/09/2024 18:30

HideousKinky · 22/09/2024 15:00

Incredibly ill-mannered:

  1. not to be appreciative of the meals cooked (did he offer help with them?)
  2. not to thank you for them
  3. not to offer to pay for meals out when there was an opportunity
  4. not to come with gifts of eg flowers/chocolates (perhaps he did?)
  5. to be on his phone quite so much
  6. to speak of your child in the way he did

You sounds like lovely & attentive hosts.

Was he with you just for the pleasure of a weekend together? Or because he asked to stay for some practical reason eg working/attending an event in your area?

Agreed, thank you!

He had stayed with us for the pleasure of a weekend together. My family and I moved to a new town that is well known for having many unique things to do, he had never been here before and he had expressed interest in coming to visit to check it out and see our new home. So he reached out to arrange a date to come stay with us and that was that.

Oddly enough, after showing him all the stuff the town has to offer, he literally had no comment about any of it. I know it’s a nice area however, people travel from all over to come stay here, so it almost seemed like intentional withholding of saying anything nice about it. It was odd and awkward.

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KerryBay · 22/09/2024 18:05

Happyher · 22/09/2024 10:58

I stay with my friend quite often and she is a good hostess. I always take wine and chocolates for her and her DH. We are all food lovers so talk about the food we have so it’s easy to compliment them. If we go out for a meal/lunch or have a takeaway I pay for it. I leave my room as I found it and tidy the bathroom after myself

I think if you’re not used to being a guest in someone’s house you can feel a bit awkward and not always sure how to act or be aware of the protocols. Sometimes as host you have to manage this. Engage in conversation if they’re scrolling phones but allow them time for this such as when you’re preparing food. Suggest they read your child a story - children love this and allows your guest to interact easier with the child

Let them know if it’s ok to make their own drinks or get up before you The more relaxed your guest feels the more they may engage with your routines and your family

It’s funny you would mention that about the book reading. My daughter brought him a few books and asked him to read to her. He pretty much refused, and awkwardly sat there with her still holding the book. So I read the books, and he just sat there and listened. I tried my best to just adapt, but I did think it was odd that he couldn’t just read the book for her. I considered it an easy way to connect with her. This is some of the behavior I was referring to where it seemed like he was just unwilling to engage with her in any capacity, and when he did it was like it was so boring for him.

It’s okay to not like kids, but you shouldn’t stay with someone who has kids then. Kinda puts me in an impossible situation.

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OhcantthInkofaname · 22/09/2024 16:27

I'm wondering what the purpose of her visit was. Did you do some activity she would enjoy? Why did she visit!

HideousKinky · 22/09/2024 15:00

Incredibly ill-mannered:

  1. not to be appreciative of the meals cooked (did he offer help with them?)
  2. not to thank you for them
  3. not to offer to pay for meals out when there was an opportunity
  4. not to come with gifts of eg flowers/chocolates (perhaps he did?)
  5. to be on his phone quite so much
  6. to speak of your child in the way he did

You sounds like lovely & attentive hosts.

Was he with you just for the pleasure of a weekend together? Or because he asked to stay for some practical reason eg working/attending an event in your area?

helibirdcomp · 22/09/2024 13:28

Not sure making the bed when they left was actually thoughtful either. Surely they don't think you are going to leave dirty bedclothes on the bed. I always ask if my host wants the bed stripped. If they don't have immediate plans for laundry they might say leave it in which case I fold it back towards end of bed to allow bed to air

Sometimesright · 22/09/2024 12:49

KerryBay · 17/09/2024 04:46

I hosted my friend for the first time at my home this weekend, they stayed for 3 nights. Each of these days my partner cooked breakfast, lunch, and dinner except for one time out for lunch and dinner. Not one of these home cooked meals did they thank me or my partner for preparing them or that they enjoyed it.

Additionally, any free moment spent at the house or when driving with them, they spent buried in their phones playing random games or on social media. If they weren’t on their phones, it was sitting by them the entire time and they would check it constantly or be texting random friends of theirs instead of talking to me. It surprised me as times I have spent with this friend prior at their home they not once did this with their phone.

Lastly, I have a young child who was very excited to see them and I told them in advance she would want to talk to them a lot and show them her stuff. They did say they have very little experience with children, however they acted like any moment my child wanted their attention, it was almost painful for them to engage with her. It didn’t seem to really register with my child, but it hurt my feelings as my child was being very typical for her age and being excited for having a new friend (for her) over at her home. They would still engage with her but I could tell it was very forced, and they did not want to be doing so, it seemed to bring them no joy and instead annoyance. When my child was not present, they would make comments like “thank god she left, that’s exhausting!”. It felt inappropriate to me and I felt guilty for my child being a child.

Some things they did do that were considerate were they made their bed when they left, they did seem to “try their best” to engage with my child despite doing so begrudgingly, and they did pay for our appetizer at dinner.

All things considered though I found myself after they left feeling a little resentful for how they treated my family and I, but I also wonder if I am overthinking it? Thank you in advance for your input.

Who makes their bed when they leave? More helpful to strip it surely?