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About neighbours complaining about children's noise

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OnNaturesCourse · 16/09/2024 23:05

Lived in a terraced house, two shared walls in our living space, one neighbor on one side and new ones on the other. We have suspended floors, and laminate flooring. Despite it being a long term rental I am reluctant to replace the flooring with underlay and carpet.

Our relatively new neighbours have been banging through our shared wall from the first few weeks of them moving in. I always assumed it was DIY/moving noises as at the times there wasn't a lot of noise in my house. Then one night the neighbors came to my door complaining that they were sick of hearing my kids banging around from early morning until night, and that on that particular day they had been hearing it since 7am and it was now 6pm. They also shouted that they were occasional shift workers and I should respect that. I had a problem with the statement about the kids noise having been all day that day as my kids slept until after 8, and were out the house 11am until half 5pm. I explained this but the neighbors refused to accept it and a arguement started to break out. I closed the door in the end as I didn't want shouted at it.

Since then I have been super alert to any noise my kids make, and I have been more aware of any times they are maybe a bit heavy footed or run in the house. I have found myself constantly saying shh, soft feet, don't crawl around and thump, stop playing with certain toys on the floor etc. It got to the point the kids couldn't do anything in the living area and yet the neighbours were still banging through - even sometimes when the kids were actually in bed.

I have invested in a large, thick rug to try and help but apparently it has not.

Now when the kids play upstairs the neighbors occasionally bang through too. Even when they are in the garden the neighbours will loudly announce that they are going inside as the noise makes it impossible to relax.

I am friendly with my other neighbors in the street, and my other joining neighbours love my kids and have stated they rarely hear them in the house. Through these neighbourly relationships I have found out my new neighbours are complaining about us to others and have went as far to say that we have ruined their move and enjoyment of the area.

My kids are 7 and 3, they do make noise I don't deny that but not to the extent where I would think it antisocial even before I put in all the measures I have (new rug, no playing in livingroom, no playing outside after 5pm, quiet toys only in their rooms, alexa and audio no higher than volume 3, no more audio books in the morning in bed etc) They are in bed from, at the latest, 8pm until atleast 7am as standard and will sleep later on weekends.

I'm living in total fear of noise in my own house. It's ridiculous.

My previous neighbor never complained in the 6 years I was here before they left.

Ironically my new neighbors have tradesman in just now for over a week and it sounds like they are bringing the joining wall down, and they have taken to moving furniture in the bedrooms between 10 & midnight. But I just roll my eyes and crack on, I'm in a terraced house I expect some noise from general living next door.

AIBU to expect my neighbors to extend the same curtesy to me? If not what else can I do to keep the noise down but still live normally?

OP posts:
Bollihobs · 17/09/2024 20:46

It doesn't sound like OP is being noisy at all unless she has a poltergeist.

Tell them this OP, that banging on the walls has clearly disturbed some undead spirits on their side and that's the noise they're hearing......😱 😆 👻

xyz111 · 17/09/2024 20:45

Laminate floors is my worse decision. If I'm having a lay in, my DS6 seems to run everywhere downstairs. Sounds like a heard of elephants. Step quietly!!!

User019715 · 17/09/2024 20:37

I live next door to a 3 year old and it is terrible when he is running doing laps of the house but I have never discussed with the neighbours as they get him out all day and it's generally restricted to 7pm-9pm. Plus I hope he will grow out of it. In your situation I am confused what noise are the neighbours hearing when your children are in bed? I don't believe they would be getting worked up about non-existent noise.

Saschka · 17/09/2024 20:28

GingerPirate · 17/09/2024 10:03

Glad I don't live in a "terraced house".
Can't stand children's noise.

These neighbours are complaining about “children’s noise” when the children are asleep, or out of the house. It clearly isn’t the children who are the problem here.

FatFuck · 17/09/2024 20:22

Do the new neighbours have children? If its just them too, they will barely make any noise.

is their wall an adjoining wall or is it the chimney side? I live in a terrace, i can hear neighbours on the plain wall but cannot hear anything chimney side. The walls with chimneys are thicker.

look youve got to live your lives. Yes be mindful but you have kids fgs. Theres going to be noise. Mention it to landlord and keep a diary. Report him too if hes doing house renovations out of hours. Hes got more to lose as it will affect him when selling in the future. Dont worry about neighbours, just be you. They will be on your side

bergamotorange · 17/09/2024 19:35

Stop tiptoeing about and place the problem where it belongs - with them. If they are complaining about the noise even when your children are out, it is their issue.

Some people are unpleasant.

Who owns their house - are they renters or owners? If renters, I would be inclined to speak to their landlord about their behaviour.

If owners, keep a diary. Record when you are in/out and their actions. You may be able to report them for harassment if they persist. I would tell them your family have a legal right to live in their home.

Nanny0gg · 17/09/2024 19:31

OnNaturesCourse · 17/09/2024 00:04

Can I / is it reasonable to complain to the council about their banging? The thought didn't even cross my mind but now I think if they wake my toddler up again I may just go down that route.

Yes.

And I'm going to take a wild leap here and take it you're a lone parent? A woman on her own?

Elizo · 17/09/2024 19:28

I think banging on the wall is not a very nice thing to do and I’d find it a bit intimidating. Noise does travel a bit in terraces but children playing is not a bad noise IMO. I would try to ignore them.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 17/09/2024 19:25

Years ago, we used to have a neighbour who complained about our kids playing too loudly, if they were in the garden anytime between 4 and 7pm. Once she sent her DH round, so I invited him in to listen to his children shrieking in the bath, as heard from our side! I chose not to mention her arguments with her mother about money, though 🤣 I think he got the point, and that was the last time he came round.

Sometimes people are just self absorbed, and don't consider that noise goes both ways. That said, it is reasonable to tell your kids to be much quieter if they are being noisy. We used to, anyway.

Chocolateorange22 · 17/09/2024 19:04

Sod that if they were to bang whilst my kids were asleep I'd be banging on their door. Telling them my kids are asleep and would they like to come and see for themselves what the noise is they hear. Oh and wake my kids up again and I'll be reporting you for harassment.

CrispieCake · 17/09/2024 19:00

Ironically my new neighbors have tradesman in just now for over a week and it sounds like they are bringing the joining wall down, and they have taken to moving furniture in the bedrooms between 10 & midnight.

Make sure to record any more building noise.

Then if they come round again, play it to them and say "This is your building noise. This is what we've been listening to for all hours of the day, including between 10pm and midnight. This is what woke my children. And you have the nerve to complain about my children walking about and playing in their own home during normal daytime hours. Go away please and don't bother us again."

AmyDudley · 17/09/2024 18:42

Do you think I could charge members of the public to look round my home and call it the "Terraced House" Experience ?

OnNaturesCourse · 17/09/2024 16:41

Fairysteps11 · 17/09/2024 14:19

And you must move around like mist? Not seen, nor heard.
Astonishing.

Myself and the children need to learn the skill 🤣

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AnonyLonnymouse · 17/09/2024 14:26

GingerPirate · 17/09/2024 10:35

I just never experienced one....

Have you never been to London? Almost the entirety of inner London housing stock is Georgian, Victorian or Edwardian terraces. Millionaires and billionaires live in terraced houses! Further out in the suburbs you get post-war semi-detached houses with one adjoining wall.

Fairysteps11 · 17/09/2024 14:19

GingerPirate · 17/09/2024 10:03

Glad I don't live in a "terraced house".
Can't stand children's noise.

And you must move around like mist? Not seen, nor heard.
Astonishing.

OnNaturesCourse · 17/09/2024 14:12

Thanks all

Help advice and support is great.

I've given in and allowed the children to have the TV on in the livingroom this afternoon.

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cinnamonbiscuit · 17/09/2024 11:50

I've had a very similar experience to yours OP in my current house. We moved in last summer with a toddler and me 8 months pregnant (much to neighbours dismay). They proceeded to bang on the wall at every little noise they heard from our 3 year old. I panicked for a couple of weeks and tried to reduce our noise levels - which looking back was ridiculous, I was trying to get DD to tiptoe around the place while nursing a newborn!

After a few occasions where they started banging the second my DD got up and started walking around, I stopped caring. We put rugs down in a few places and cracked on, obviously being mindful about noise in general but overall we are not noisy people! It was just children's living noise that they apparently couldn't cope with- playing/footsteps etc.

It all came to a head a month or so ago when they came round one day to confront me- after a full year of banging, this was the first time they had approached us. I told her I had no intention of changing our behaviour,and that if she had bothered to ever talk to us we could have discussed things like rugs etc. Anyway the long and short of it is that they have stopped banging and we are still living our lives as normal!

Our situation is slightly different to yours as we own our house, so I think both sides would be reluctant to involve the council. However in your position I absolutely would complain about their banging. It sounds like they think they can bully you into silence- don't let them!!

CrispieCake · 17/09/2024 11:43

I would record their construction noise and play it back to them next time they complain. They've got a cheek.

Then tell them:

  • You've tried to be reasonable but they've refused to meet you halfway.
  • You don't want to hear from them again and if they bang on the walls again and frighten your children, you'll be contacting the police to lodge a harassment complaint.
  • If they have any complaints, they can contact the council from now on not you.
  • The fact they are shift workers is not your problem. You are a young family and you are using your house for normal family life.

Ideally we'd all have good neighbourly relationships, but unfortunately, with people like this, if you give an inch they'll take a mile. They will never be reasonable. The sooner you make it clear that they need to fuck off and leave you alone, the sooner you'll get some peace from them.

HiyaKath · 17/09/2024 11:37

Terraces can be so noisy but depends on the layout. We can hear musical instruments but not tv etc or much else. Some of it you have to accept if you choose a terrace. One of our neighbours kids screams like she’s being killed in the garden which is fun but can hardly complain as she’s a kid and neighbours blank us.

BanksysSprayCan · 17/09/2024 11:23

Whoever posted the legal letter with key points - that’s helpful advice.

And carpet would be likely to help. If you have already raised it with your landlord when the neighbours write to them, it shows that you have tried to remedy the situation.

Frozenberries · 17/09/2024 11:18

If they mention it to you again, you need to say ‘please stop your incessant banging. It’s waking my children up’

they are being ridiculous and so rude to keep banging on your wall like that

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 17/09/2024 11:14

notanotherusername2024 · 17/09/2024 10:05

Every time they bang, bang back. Match each thump. Otherwise never respond to them again and just live as though they don't exist.

Yeah this.

If they come round and talk to you, just hear them out and tell them that they're hearing noise from somewhere else because your kids were in bed/out (basically what you've said here) and if they think it's too much they're welcome to go to Environmental Health about it.

Tell them their banging woke your child making them cry, and if they can't deal with the sound of a small child sleeping maybe buying a terrace wasn't the best idea?

They're being ridiculous and vindictive.

TiramisuThief · 17/09/2024 11:13

Are you a single woman on your own OP?

Sometimes (male) neighbours take it on themselves as an opportunity to intimidate someone.

Don't make your lives small to appease an arsehole.

If they continue I would call 101 for advice.

OnNaturesCourse · 17/09/2024 11:09

Thanks all.

My landlord will be visiting in the coming weeks on a unrelated matter so I will bring up the noise complaints/carpet issue and see what their advice is. Atleast then if the neighbours complain to the landlord I can say I have raised it already.

I am due a baby at the end of the year and the room baby will sleep in is their adjoining wall so I'm dreading the night feeds etc.

I am aware of the noise my children make and fully agree that when they run inside it can feel like they are thudding around due to the flooring. I stop them as much as I can, the 7 year old understands and for the most part remembers but the 3 year old is heavy footed with a short memory for such things (and a liking for jumping around). Which is why I have removed all toys from the livingroom to encourage him to play upstairs or outside (upstairs is carpeted for the most part and the playroom is the furthest room from the neighbours property) but that doesn't seem to be helping with neighbours happiness. I don't want to spend any time we are at home moaning at DCs for living in their own space, yes I don't mind reminding them to be mindful but short of having them sit on the sofa reading a book all day I don't know what else I can do (and honestly the neighbours would still complain at this point)

I swing from "it's my house I'll live as we wish during day time hours" to "omg, don't breathe we don't want to upset the neighbours"

I hate conflict and had hoped to have a good relationship when they moved in as the neighbourhood is very friendly and quite tight knit.

OP posts:
Eejitmum101 · 17/09/2024 11:07

@Ivehearditbothways shes too good to live in “terrace houses” and dislike kids so I’m sure she’s in a semi detached home hopefully not making any noise for her neighbours

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