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I feel embarrassed when people comment on my screen settings. I know this is ridiculous, please help me get over it.

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BurningRubber · 16/09/2024 22:08

I started a new job a few months ago and one of the systems I have to use is really old. I didn't realise this before taking on the job and tbh I wouldn't have taken the job if I did realise because it is causing me no end of problems. The system has very small text. I have keratoconus which makes small text look blurry and unfortunately I also use drops and creams for high eye pressure and corneal erosion which also makes close work blurry. Basically my eyes are a bit rubbish but most of the time it's not a problem as you can enlarge screens and have read aloud and that's what I do. But this system is so old that none of this works on it. The only thing I can do is have it on a separate screen and change the settings and tbh it still looks weird and I have to do things like scroll across and down the window to reach the end of a line. I actually hate it! But what I also hate is colleagues coming up to my desk and saying things like "ooh your screen looks funny" or "I can't look at things on your screen, can't you change it back?" Also if someone is trying to show me a new part/process of the system they're doing it on their screen, and I can't see it. I have to write down what they say word for word and then when I'm back on my screen work out how it corresponds.

Actually reading through all that I'm thinking that I can't keep doing this job 😞 But also I get very put on edge by all the comments.

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FloydGerhardt · 22/09/2024 14:13

Have you tried adding speak to word?

I feel embarrassed when people comment on my screen settings. I know this is ridiculous, please help me get over it.
Sometimesright · 22/09/2024 14:07

BurningRubber · 16/09/2024 22:08

I started a new job a few months ago and one of the systems I have to use is really old. I didn't realise this before taking on the job and tbh I wouldn't have taken the job if I did realise because it is causing me no end of problems. The system has very small text. I have keratoconus which makes small text look blurry and unfortunately I also use drops and creams for high eye pressure and corneal erosion which also makes close work blurry. Basically my eyes are a bit rubbish but most of the time it's not a problem as you can enlarge screens and have read aloud and that's what I do. But this system is so old that none of this works on it. The only thing I can do is have it on a separate screen and change the settings and tbh it still looks weird and I have to do things like scroll across and down the window to reach the end of a line. I actually hate it! But what I also hate is colleagues coming up to my desk and saying things like "ooh your screen looks funny" or "I can't look at things on your screen, can't you change it back?" Also if someone is trying to show me a new part/process of the system they're doing it on their screen, and I can't see it. I have to write down what they say word for word and then when I'm back on my screen work out how it corresponds.

Actually reading through all that I'm thinking that I can't keep doing this job 😞 But also I get very put on edge by all the comments.

You need to speak to someone and get it sorted out. Nobody can work in those conditions

Platypuslover · 22/09/2024 14:02

BurningRubber · 16/09/2024 22:08

I started a new job a few months ago and one of the systems I have to use is really old. I didn't realise this before taking on the job and tbh I wouldn't have taken the job if I did realise because it is causing me no end of problems. The system has very small text. I have keratoconus which makes small text look blurry and unfortunately I also use drops and creams for high eye pressure and corneal erosion which also makes close work blurry. Basically my eyes are a bit rubbish but most of the time it's not a problem as you can enlarge screens and have read aloud and that's what I do. But this system is so old that none of this works on it. The only thing I can do is have it on a separate screen and change the settings and tbh it still looks weird and I have to do things like scroll across and down the window to reach the end of a line. I actually hate it! But what I also hate is colleagues coming up to my desk and saying things like "ooh your screen looks funny" or "I can't look at things on your screen, can't you change it back?" Also if someone is trying to show me a new part/process of the system they're doing it on their screen, and I can't see it. I have to write down what they say word for word and then when I'm back on my screen work out how it corresponds.

Actually reading through all that I'm thinking that I can't keep doing this job 😞 But also I get very put on edge by all the comments.

Speak to your manager and ask for occupational health they should supply you with a larger screen for that useless system. And accommodate others showing you on your screen.

Rosscameasdoody · 18/09/2024 10:39

NeverDropYourMooncup · 17/09/2024 09:38

You'd be surprised what suddenly becomes possible when it's a member of senior management/HR telling them it's necessary, compared to a mere employee.

Yep. Agree. You’d also be surprised what’s possible if/when OP declares a disability and asks for reasonable adjustment under the Equality Act in the form of new equipment - possibly provided under access to work if the employer can’t foot the bill. It’s not a good sign that her boss seems to be unaware of employer responsibility under the Act - OP effectively declared a disability affecting her work when she told her boss the difficulties with the equipment. And if people are commenting like this, that’s also not on and could possibly be seen as harassment. OP is talking about not being able to hold on to the job much longer if this carries on, and I would think she has a great case for constructive dismissal if that happens without the situation being addressed.

TorghunKhan · 17/09/2024 19:31

Rosscameasdoody · 17/09/2024 19:29

Yep. I was a disability outreach worker in another life and my first thought was that this can’t possibly be legal. OP should declare a disability under the Equality Act 2010 and ask for reasonable adjustment as well as access to work funding for an appropriate system which wont potentially exacerbate existing problems.

100%. I have been building and rebuilding systems and services since 1999, the equality act is very very clear - you just can't give someone an experience like this anymore, you haven't been able to for decades really. OP - go to HTR and make a formal complaint, this is literally illegal.

Rosscameasdoody · 17/09/2024 19:29

TorghunKhan · 17/09/2024 19:22

Speaking as a service designer (what you are using) and as a disability and accessibility expert - what your employer is forcing you to do is almost definitely illegal. Very illegal.

Yep. I was a disability outreach worker in another life and my first thought was that this can’t possibly be legal. OP should declare a disability under the Equality Act 2010 and ask for reasonable adjustment as well as access to work funding for an appropriate system which wont potentially exacerbate existing problems.

Negroany · 17/09/2024 19:26

Rosscameasdoody · 17/09/2024 19:18

There’s a difference between using glasses for a common eyesight problem and having to use specialist equipment for a condition which disrupts your eyesight and can be considered a disability. Would you tell a blind person they should use glasses ? No ? Thought not. So why are you telling someone who clearly has more than the usual eyesight problems to suck it up ?

Jesus, that post you quoted is HORRIBLE!

I had to give up badminton due to my eyesight issues. My friend said "that's why you wear glasses though!". Well, no, actually. The glasses are for my long sightedness, short sightedness and to an extent astigmatism. They don't, and can never, compensate for the loss of vision due to a retina repair a few years ago nor correct sight loss from a hole in my macular.

TorghunKhan · 17/09/2024 19:22

Speaking as a service designer (what you are using) and as a disability and accessibility expert - what your employer is forcing you to do is almost definitely illegal. Very illegal.

Rosscameasdoody · 17/09/2024 19:18

Ifoughthefight · 17/09/2024 08:01

Not sure on which planet do you live. Most female colleagues share their lives and general health anyway. Why don't you use glassed? - I do. Forgot my glasses the other day and shared it with the line manager and any colleague who was there heard it and knew that my husband is bringing them.

another made up post

There’s a difference between using glasses for a common eyesight problem and having to use specialist equipment for a condition which disrupts your eyesight and can be considered a disability. Would you tell a blind person they should use glasses ? No ? Thought not. So why are you telling someone who clearly has more than the usual eyesight problems to suck it up ?

notatinydancer · 17/09/2024 10:04

BurningRubber · 17/09/2024 00:41

Gosh wow, I never thought about it in those terms. I think I thought that not being able to see things was a professional failure. It's not though, I'm starting to realise.

Of course you're not a failure.
It's not your fault.
In fact I'd say you're trying very hard.

Ps my eyesight is very poor , I always say if I can't see something. No one has ever commented.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 17/09/2024 10:03

A deep sigh and "are you always this challenging towards people with a disability/eye problems/poor eyesight/visual impairment?" (delete as appropriate) might work. And then tell your LM you feel you're being picked on because you are. It's reasonable to ask once, just in case they have some knowledge of how to make the text bigger or something and they can help you out, but after that it's just haranguing you for no reason at all.

notatinydancer · 17/09/2024 10:01

BurningRubber · 16/09/2024 22:20

@NewJobNewMeNewLife you'd think so but no, it's the same comments every time 😞 from people who have seen my massive bastardised screen multiple times 😞 but still feel the impulse to comment on it. I think it won't get old for them. It sure does for me though.

Because you haven't told them you have vision problems.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 17/09/2024 09:38

BurningRubber · 16/09/2024 22:15

They don't. I have asked. What I'm doing is as good as it's going to get.

You'd be surprised what suddenly becomes possible when it's a member of senior management/HR telling them it's necessary, compared to a mere employee.

TeamPolin · 17/09/2024 09:34

Would you qualify for Access To Work funding? Disabled people and their employers can use this to buy tools and equipment they need to help them access work effectively - eg special software.

www.gov.uk/access-to-work

ButtSurgery · 17/09/2024 09:09

BurningRubber · 17/09/2024 00:41

Gosh wow, I never thought about it in those terms. I think I thought that not being able to see things was a professional failure. It's not though, I'm starting to realise.

Have you seen occupational health? Would a larger screen (width ways) allow you to see the whole of the page you need? Or at least the full width of the page? Your employer should be providing things like this as a reasonable adjustment.

Maybe speak to the RNIB about up to date assistive technology? They have a team you can speak to who may be best placed to advise you.

https://www.rnib.org.uk/living-with-sight-loss/assistive-aids-and-technology/everyday-tech/

I worked with a lady who was blind with a tiny pinhole of vision and she had all sorts of technology made available to her for different programmes - not all of them could be used with Dragon software for example, but there were a mix of options available to her for her specific needs.

I'm sorry you're struggling with the diagnosis and living with this, it sounds hard. Are you also claiming PIP? That might help you buy bits and pieces you need for home and work?

clarrylove · 17/09/2024 09:09

Can you ask your workstation to be moved to a more private area, in the corner or something, where people aren't continually walking past and seeing/commenting on your screen?

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 17/09/2024 08:48

As a visually impaired person I really sympathise. I can't manage many 'normal' computer setups and also need to have the screen very close and at the right angle to my face, so I can't use a laptop, which puzzles people a lot. 'Can't you get better glasses?' they say, and I sometimes mutter 'What a good idea, if only I'd thought of that 30 years ago.'
It is personal and I'd rather keep it to myself, but colleagues always notice and have their own views about it. I find it easiest to tell everyone I work with and keep repeating it if necessary. Your colleagues may not be annoyed so much as bewildered, but if their attitude is upsetting you, you could write out a short statement and get your line manager or HR to send it round with a reminder that reasonable adjustments and respect are required for any kind of health problem. I hope you only give up the job if you don't like it, not because of this.

WhatWouldJeevesDo · 17/09/2024 08:39

A side issue but record any informal training on your phone.

NoTouch · 17/09/2024 08:38

I have some colleagues who have their screen set up differently to the standard layout - different SAP themes, dark mode, "fun" fonts etc and I struggle to process what is on their screen, but as soon as I look at the same thing on my own screen it just clicks.

It is understandable if they struggle to process information on your screen when it looks so different, so you need to be as considerate of this as you expect them to be considerate to you.

You don't need to explain your eye issues in detail, but there is no reason not to tell people you need the screen like that and they will probably be more accommodating and can work out together how you can share information - perhaps dual monitors with the screen duplicated and the resolution on one is standard setting? Or share a link to the information to them so they can view on their own screen....

TorroFerney · 17/09/2024 08:31

OilLamp · 16/09/2024 22:14

Tell them your eye issues. It will make them squirm and then stop the comments.

Yes exactly this, just own it, it’s nothing to be ashamed of. I would imagine it’s something said without thinking and most of them will be mortified when you explain. And if they aren’t well they are tossers.

LookItsMeAgain · 17/09/2024 08:27

BurningRubber · 16/09/2024 22:52

Because the way I have to enlarge it does make it difficult to read because I have to scroll to the end of every line. So if they're just looking over my shoulder eg to see what's happened with xyz, they can't see it immediately. Neither can I, I have to scroll across and/or down, and it takes time, and when I'm doing that they say eg "I can't cope with your screen" or "I can't look at that" and ask me to send an email to them letting them know what's on the screen. I do get it, because it's clunky, but it just makes me feel v awkward.

You have a medical condition that requires you to have your screen set up in such a way to make it work for you. Not for them. For you.

So if you have to scroll across and they come out with a comment about the way that your screen is set up, I'd actually be prepared for that by having a load of pages printed off in a nice bundle and hand them one which details your condition and respond with "Well, I have to have the screens set up like this so that I can work, you're welcome to read up on my condition which might explain why the screens have to be set up like this. Here you go" and keep doing what you're doing. Or you could reply with "Well, the screens are set up this way for me, not you, because you don't have a medical condition that requires it. Here's some information on the condition so that you can understand why I have to have the screens set up like this" and hand them a page that describes your condition.

If you're factual, not aggressive but assertive in your responses to your colleagues, they will stop making the comments. However, if you don't respond to their comments, I think they will keep making them.

Rosscameasdoody · 17/09/2024 08:26

BurningRubber · 16/09/2024 22:14

Line manager is aware and also is aware that I'm making the best of a bad job. I don't really want to have to tell every person I work with about my eyes! It's personal!

(I know I've written it in here but you don't know who I am.)

If the condition affects your day to day life, including your workplace, you could declare it as a disability to your employer under the Equality Act 2010. Your employer would then need to look at your working conditions and agree reasonable adjustment with you, to make things easier. Potentially they could look at specialist equipment for you, for which they may be able to claim funding under the Access to Work scheme.

This would also mean that you have protected characteristics in the workplace from day one as a disabled person. Your colleagues commenting like this is not on - it could also be seen as harassment - and possibly going down that route will be helpful. Have a look at the relevant section of the Equality Act 2010 - link is below.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/contents

Equality Act 2010

An Act to make provision to require Ministers of the Crown and others when making strategic decisions about the exercise of their functions to have regard to the desirability of reducing socio-economic inequalities; to reform and harmonise equality law...

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/contents

oakleaffy · 17/09/2024 08:20

BurningRubber · 16/09/2024 22:25

@LottieMary thank you! I'm sorry you've had this too. As I'm sure you know day to day it's all fine on phones and tablets and even most jobs with vaguely recent software, things are so much easier to manage, but these particular old systems that are in academic environments, not so much. I had no idea it was all so inaccessible. Like you say they pay all the lip service about inclusion but don't give much of a crap about people who can't see stuff! Stupid thick tiny letters!

That sounds so annoying- and your colleagues sound like assholes.

RubyOrca · 17/09/2024 08:20

This sounds really frustrating and i get why it’s upsetting.

I want to highlight that as much as you absolutely have the right to privacy and don’t have to share your medical condition with others - your colleagues are in a better position to be considerate if they have some knowledge.

People aren’t being inconsiderate deliberately, it’s through ignorance. While you get every comment, they aren’t aware of that - and likely don’t even remember when they have commented themselves. When they ask you to change the screen they are advocating for themselves (they can’t read it) the way you need to.

I’d strongly recommend re-thinking keeping this entirely to yourself. If you could just say - I’ve got eye issues that mean I cannot read the default font - how about we work through together on our own computers so we can both see?

For training ask if you can record them. Again just say I’ve got eye issues and can’t follow your screen - can I grab my laptop so I can follow along? Or can I record this so I can make sure I get it right?

You don’t have to provide your test results, or specific diagnosis, but highlighting that you need a larger font size is really not that personal.

and yes, it might make sense to job hunt for a place that uses software you can read using standard tools. But don’t leave yourself unemployed unnecessarily.

JassyRadlett · 17/09/2024 08:15

Ifoughthefight · 17/09/2024 08:01

Not sure on which planet do you live. Most female colleagues share their lives and general health anyway. Why don't you use glassed? - I do. Forgot my glasses the other day and shared it with the line manager and any colleague who was there heard it and knew that my husband is bringing them.

another made up post

"Other people are not just like me and therefore they must be lying."

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