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To ask if you’ve ever become obsessed with a murder case?

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sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:26

I was watching a true crime podcast on YouTube and it finished and went to a random suggestion and it was a 2 minute video of a crime scene inside a subway from the 80s on an ordinary news channel.

I looked into the case and there’s nothing on it apart from a one column blurb in the newspaper at the time and the victims photo being sold on Amazon. It’s so weird .. and I can’t stop thinking about it.

Anyone else?

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dottiedodah · 18/09/2024 10:16

Wasnt Claudia Lawrence killed by some guys at her local pub? Apparently the police know who they are. But dont have enough evidence to prosecute them!

JoBrandsCleaner · 18/09/2024 10:01

sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:44

Yeah this one, I’m the same age as James so it’s sad to think he’d be my age and what he missed out on.

Would be life long torment to have been one of the people that saw them and stopped them.

Yes this. This case and the Arthur L Hughes I think he was called are the two worst things I’ve ever heard about in my life. Some of them I hope are tormented, especially the woman near the end whose dog ‘doesn’t like children’, oh does it not really? How can she actually live with herself

Yoonimum · 18/09/2024 09:41

The level of violence against women and girls is really distressing me. I can't follow many real life murders for this reason. I do love an OTT Scandi Noir though. If it is removed enough from real life I can handle it.

honeylulu · 18/09/2024 09:40

Norma27 · 17/09/2024 10:17

I was at uni with a young woman called Isabel peake- not sure on spelling. She was coming home for weekend from France and was thrown off a train. Think about it often. Her killer sid rozales- again not sure of spelling - was caught and killed himself in a Portuguese prison. He killed 2 or 3 women and I think would have killed many more if not caught.

Gosh, I remember this one. At first the news reports said the police thought her death might have been accidental and she could have leant against a faulty door and fallen. But then they found the other women's bodies at his home. So sinister.

PeachyPeachTrees · 18/09/2024 09:37

Steven Avery. Wrongly convicted of rape served 20 years. Huge compensation payment coming his way. Then gets framed for murder and currently in prison for life and hasn't seen a penny of his compensation because he's a convicted killer.
I don't like the guy but his life has been ruined. I'm overly invested in this case, so much doesn't add up. Gripping netflix docu-series.

Cillianlikegillian · 18/09/2024 08:49

The UK one that obsesses me most is the suspected serial killer case of the Vanishing Triangle in Ireland.

Horrific cases, but not actually in the UK@XChrome.

ColonelRhubarbBikini · 18/09/2024 08:17

The L.I.S.K case or the Gilgo beach whichever you know it by. Such a horrible haunting case in which some of the victims are still unidentified. The man they have arrested sounds like a monster. The ‘planning document’ found on his computer is horrifying.

I’ve been following that case closely alongside Delphi and the Idaho student murders. All of which will be coming to trial in the next few years.

Xmasxrackers · 18/09/2024 08:15

Paul2023 · 16/09/2024 20:34

The disappearance of Suzy Lamplugh. No one will ever know I don’t think..

Or who ‘Mr Kipper’ really was.

a few years ago they were digging up some land near where I live. They have searched Norton Barracks a few times, also where I used to live, so it fascinates me too

Tazmania77 · 18/09/2024 08:08

The OJ Simpson trial, I was 18 when it all happened and it was the dawn of a new era in terms of 24 hour news coverage, I can’t believe that at the time I thought he was innocent! I watched the Cuba gooding jr thing then have just finished watching the OJ in America on Disney plus, and it’s shocking how the LAPD messed everything up evidence collecting wise, he so so did it and they bungled the whole thing, and I can’t believe that he’s now gone and there was no death bed confession x

Lifeofthepartay · 18/09/2024 07:31

RamsaySnowsSausage · 16/09/2024 21:07

I'm expecting there will be someone along shortly to say how ghoulish and disgusting we are for being interested in true crime. And I do get the sentiment- it can seem like interest equals enjoyment but that doesn't mean anyone is pleased these horrible things happen. The only people to focus criticism on are the perpetrators, not those who want to understand what happened and never, ever the victims.

Some of these cases are fascinating but that doesn't equal happy they happened. It's natural to be curious but obviously stop short at upsetting friends and family.

The Missy Bevers case, Andrew Gosden and Jon-Benet are tragedies and desperate for answers for the families. I live quite local to a case mentioned and there is some local knowledge and rumours that I guess is similar to so many of these cases.

The Delphi one I am so glad to know they have the suspect but as a pp says how did he get away with it so long and why did he do it. Is he connected to other stuff, must be.

It pains me to think someone somewhere knows what happened to people that disappeared, or who murdered people in unsolved cases, and how can they keep a secret like that, and let their families hanging for answers. It always makes me think if I could have a superpower it would be to know what happened in all these unsolved cases to finally bring the families some peace.

Plump82 · 18/09/2024 07:26

The Elisa Lam case. Everything about it is so strange and nothing adds up. I look it up every so often to see if there's anything new about it but there's not.

XChrome · 18/09/2024 07:15

Sinisterdexter · 18/09/2024 06:47

The Pottery Cottage murders, absolutely horrific.

Yes, and the name alone is horrifying. It's so incongruous to think of a pottery cottage being a murder scene.

XChrome · 18/09/2024 07:13

Sorry, meant to say quadruple murder for the Keddie case.

The UK one that obsesses me most is the suspected serial killer case of the Vanishing Triangle in Ireland. I don't think I'm speaking out of turn to call these murder cases, as it is the official position of the authorities that these victims are presumed dead.
All are eerie and terrifying cases.
There is a wonderful Irish YouTube channel which deals with violence against women in Ireland, the name of which I cannot remember, which is where I discovered it.
Do any of you true crime buffs know the name of that channel? I'd like to watch it again. The woman who narrates it is blonde and looks to be in her thirties. The narration is quite beautiful and evocative (in a dark way) and extremely well written.
It's not any of the well known ones like Irish Coffee True Crime, Dark Vaults or That Chapter, but a more obscure one.

Sinisterdexter · 18/09/2024 06:47

The Pottery Cottage murders, absolutely horrific.

XChrome · 18/09/2024 06:45

These creepy ones have kept me up at night a few times;

The 2014 bizarre triple murder of the Liknes family- husband and wife and their grandson Nathan.
Incredibly sick, disturbing story, so don't look into it if you tend to get nightmares.
I bawled like a baby and felt like there was no hope left in the world after I watched a program about it. I still think about it. Thankfully the evil bastard is in jail with three life sentences. This is an unusual case because it was partially solved by a mapping plane inadvertently capturing footage of the scene. The motive was a petty grudge.

The Black Dahlia case is a classic true crime story. Also extremely disturbing. There is a credible guy who is convinced his father was the killer, but it was never really solved.

The Keddie cabin murders from the 70s, also a triple murder of a woman and three children. One child was taken and no trace of her was found until many years later when her remains were found. Horrible case. The bastard got away with it too because the police were completely incompetent.
That makes my blood boil.

augustusglupe · 18/09/2024 05:35

COPPER3 · 17/09/2024 22:24

Rachel Nickell
Meredith Kuecher
Madeleine McCann (although she died accidently, but obsessed with her case and how the McCann's have got away with it all these years?)
Nicola Bulley (because I think she was murdered)

I think there was something very odd about the Nicola Bulley case too.
It felt like we weren’t meant to question anything from the get go. It was all so strange and nothing made sense. It still doesn’t.

Agespot · 18/09/2024 04:07

Boiledbeetle · 17/09/2024 02:14

My murder obsession is the murder of 83 year old Agnes Cresswell who was bludgeoned to death at some point between 11 and 14 May 1968 in Bradford, West Yorkshire by an 18 year old called Steven Rushworth, (who was already a double convicted rapist by 15).

Unfortunately the National archives won't unlock the file until 1st January 2026! I can find nothing about it apart from a Daily Mirror (I think) article from the time, and I can't even find that now. I know who murdered her (and that he went to prison), but I really want to know the details of the case.

This one is personal for me as I was a victim of his a few years after he was released from prison for the murder and finding more out about what he did before he came into my life will hopefully help me make some sense of, and make peace with what happened in my life.

On a none personal note I read a book Victim: The Other Side of Murder" by Gary Kinder in the mid 80s about a horrific robbery, and murders, at a HiFi shop in 1974. "I've read it countless times over the years and the senseless brutality of what happened never fails to horrify me. Of course I had to wait for the internet to exist before I could find out what happened after the point the book ended. It's such a sad story, but I've never been able to get it out of my mind.

Wow! Sorry but how did you become involved with a convicted murderer and rapist?

Scorchio84 · 18/09/2024 02:39

Heythrop84 · 17/09/2024 22:50

I am not sure if Jeremy Bamber is guilty or not (although I lean towards innocent). What is clear was there was a mis-trial and evidence has been withheld for over three decades. The application to the Court of Appeal in now in its fourth year - totally uacceptable.

are you not sure?

Lostsadandconfused · 18/09/2024 02:33

JonBenet, I was in Colorado at the time this happened.

A case from Philip Island in Australia, the murder of Beth Barnard and the disappearance of Vivienne Cameron. It’s insane. Any true crime buffs want to read about it and give me your thoughts.

x2boys · 18/09/2024 01:31

Some murders never get the publicity others do when I qualified. As a student nurse in 1996 a girl who should have qualified as an occupational therapist was brutally murdered just a few weeks before our graduation ceremony and her friends collected her degree posthumously but most people won't remember her name

HollyKnight · 18/09/2024 00:25

Officially they are not murders, but I got really sucked into the conspiracies around the deaths of Marilyn Monroe and Kurt Cobain.

More recently was Gabby Petito. From her being reported missing, then being found dead, then her murderer-boyfriend's remains being found all happened in real time for me. Before she was found, I remember reading so many comments by people calling her an abuser and mentally ill. I just kept thinking "Am I crazy here? Why can these people not see it is him who is abusing her?? Gaslighting her. Manipulating her." Poor girl.

BogusHocusPocus · 17/09/2024 23:29

Wildbird12 · 17/09/2024 23:22

I think I have read absolutely everything about the murder of Sophie Toscan du Plantier. And I'm still none the wiser about who did it. I don't think it was the 'self confessed prime suspect Bailey'. It is a fascinating case - I don't suppose it will ever be solved now. Can't imagine how hard it is for the family.

You may have missed my comment but watch Sophie: A Murder in West Cork

It's so fascinating..

BogusHocusPocus · 17/09/2024 23:28

Youllnevergetabetterbitofbutteronyourknife · 16/09/2024 23:36

I love true crime. The most disturbing case I ever watched on YouTube is the murder of Junko Furuta. The poor girl was kidnapped, held for 40 days, whilst being perpetually raped, tortured and eventually killed by a gang of young men. It is the single most horrific thing I have ever seen and I've watched a lot. It has stuck with me.

Omg yes.

I have managed not to think about this for quite a while, but your comment has brought my awareness of the case rushing back.

How I wish this was just a particularly nasty bit of fiction from the dark web written by a sad sicko. Right now I feed I'd do anything in my power to turn it from reality to fiction.

WandaFishy99 · 17/09/2024 23:27

Not a murder, but an attempted murder. Does anyone remember, or has anyone heard about, the girl who was pushed off a train and left for dead? She wasn't expected to survive but she did. The last I remember is a news report about her going back to school, walking very stiffly.
She was about 16 and I think it was in the late 70s.
For some reason I remember her boyfriend looked like a Teddy Boy, which was quite unusual then.

Wildbird12 · 17/09/2024 23:22

I think I have read absolutely everything about the murder of Sophie Toscan du Plantier. And I'm still none the wiser about who did it. I don't think it was the 'self confessed prime suspect Bailey'. It is a fascinating case - I don't suppose it will ever be solved now. Can't imagine how hard it is for the family.

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