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To ask if you’ve ever become obsessed with a murder case?

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sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:26

I was watching a true crime podcast on YouTube and it finished and went to a random suggestion and it was a 2 minute video of a crime scene inside a subway from the 80s on an ordinary news channel.

I looked into the case and there’s nothing on it apart from a one column blurb in the newspaper at the time and the victims photo being sold on Amazon. It’s so weird .. and I can’t stop thinking about it.

Anyone else?

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Suzuki70 · 16/09/2024 21:02

Marinade · 16/09/2024 20:43

The women who died in Panama is such an eerie and sinister case. Is the overriding theory that foul play was involved?

Richard Allen and Delphi - he confessed numerous times. Seems very odd thing to do if you were innocent.

Missy Beavers is another very intriguing case as is the case of Rey Rivera and Nora Quoririn, the girl who died in Malaysia and whose body was seemingly located by a Shamen who did an exchange with a Jin or genie.

RIP.

Generally speaking I would say the casual reader assumes they got lost and died of exposure but plenty of people knew where they were going (taxi driver, people who saw them set off). With the clean, dry backpack being found, the cleanly severed foot and the night photos - plus the photos potentially showing they reached the summit, went a little way then went back to the summit, I don't buy it.

RainyJuly87 · 16/09/2024 21:02

The Chillenden murders in 1996. So senseless and horrific 😢

SerafinasGoose · 16/09/2024 21:01

Not 'obsessed', no. But for various reasons some cases do hold their own particular power to shock.

Since the day I read of the murder of Sophie Lancaster, it's been a story I've never been able to forget.

The Peter Falconio murder was also tragic, as was the horrible treatment his partner Joanne Lees received at the hands of a sceptical media. She was never guilty of anything yet she was treated a criminal, not as the victim she was, and not only received no sympathy but also no victim care. The nutcase armchair detectives were out in force on that one, pointing the finger of blame squarely at her and insisting that the maniac (and already-convicted rapist) Bradley Murdoch, who killed her lover and attempted to abduct her, was 'innocent'. All this was in the face of Lees's own witness testimony. She must have felt the world was against her and she was astonishingly brave.

There was also a little-known murder in the US which felt much closer to me for particular reasons. I lived there at the time and the victim was my age. Her name was Palestina Isa (Tina). The perpetrators were her parents and their apartment was bugged as her father was a suspected member of an ANO terrorist cell. It was the first time I'd ever heard of an honour killing. They caught the whole horrific scene on tape.

She was 16 and would be 52 now if she had been allowed to live. This happened in 1989 and it's never left me.

Whatineed · 16/09/2024 21:01

Marinade · 16/09/2024 20:28

Yes I am completely obssessed with the case of the murder of Dan Markel, a law professor, in Florida. His ex wife's family ordered a hit on him and the machinations of the case are just fascinating.

@Marinade there is a podcast called "Over my dead body" which covers this story.

pca.st/podcast/36f04d40-066d-0137-f265-1d245fc5f9cf

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Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 16/09/2024 20:56

The Irish missing girls in the mid 90s, now believed to be victims of a serial killer. Its believed the killer is known, i wont name him here. No bodies ever found and i suspect massive police cock ups with the investigations.

Deirdre Jacob in particular was my age and looked at bit like me. I still think of her friends and family often and wonder what on earth happened.

Trevor Deeley missing in Dublin, I was out that night near enough the area, it's always troubled me that he disappeared without a trace.

Trevor deeley and Sandra Collins I think of them often

CharlotteLightandDark · 16/09/2024 20:59

Paul2023 · 16/09/2024 20:34

The disappearance of Suzy Lamplugh. No one will ever know I don’t think..

Or who ‘Mr Kipper’ really was.

Isn’t this widely accepted to be John Cannan? Even though he’s not admitted it it seems likely.

sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:59

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No that one affected me too. It was just sickening and anger inducing that he was failed by so many professionals.

I know life isn’t as simplistic as this but it makes you think how much you’d lovingly take in that child for them to grow up knowing what it’s like to be safe and loved.

Too many cases like it.

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Over40Overdating · 16/09/2024 20:59

Claudia Lawrence.

The Vanishing Trinangle women in Ireland - ll possibly linked to one man who is now free and roaming the U.K. and Ireland. Hopefully someone, somewhere will give enough information that they can pin at least one on him to put him away and give one family closure.

The Elaine O Hara case - another irish one. Interesting in the sense her killer was only caught because of a dog walker and a heat wave. He has appealed multiple times and shows no remorse only rage at being caught.

How his wife and kids get their heads around living with and surviving that monster I don’t know.

NotSorry · 16/09/2024 20:59

Madeleine McCann - same age as my youngest, will we ever find out what happened?

LindorDoubleChoc · 16/09/2024 20:57

Yabu.

usernother · 16/09/2024 20:57

The Murdaugh family murders and the Doomsday couple Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell. Both cases were American and I followed them on YouTube.

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 16/09/2024 20:56

The Irish missing girls in the mid 90s, now believed to be victims of a serial killer. Its believed the killer is known, i wont name him here. No bodies ever found and i suspect massive police cock ups with the investigations.

Deirdre Jacob in particular was my age and looked at bit like me. I still think of her friends and family often and wonder what on earth happened.

Trevor Deeley missing in Dublin, I was out that night near enough the area, it's always troubled me that he disappeared without a trace.

Swanbeauty · 16/09/2024 20:56

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WhiteTowel · 16/09/2024 20:53

@sheknoedidhitit i think thats why I am too, same age as James would be. The sentences that the 2 boys got, the amount of footage and sightings. It was so preventable, not the change of identity and rumours of sex offending after. My mum always said she strapped me into my buggy for months afterwards. Jonbenet Ramsay's murder aswell. The mum was so awkward in interviews. Tbh i listen to truecrime alot, so loads intrigue me but yes James Bulger always stood out to me.

WetBandits · 16/09/2024 20:53

Joshua Maddux. How did he get there?

maddening · 16/09/2024 20:51

I like the EWU covering of the scream murder in 2006 - the police interviews of both the murderers and the videos that the murderers took in the lead up to and following the murder. They have done a follow up interviewing one of the murderers in prison - very interesting

Swanbeauty · 16/09/2024 20:50

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sosshouldhavebrushed · 16/09/2024 20:48

Bianca devins murder, really affected me and I go back and re read it every six months. Poor girl

SpagBolBowl · 16/09/2024 20:47

George Floyd. I watched the entire case.

Also not a case but listened to a fascinating talk by an undercover police officer who then went on to campaign for legalisation of drugs. He was also of the mindset that it would solve deforestation and help prevent climate change.

AGirlInACountrySong · 16/09/2024 20:46

Definitely the Delphi Murders!!

They had a video of him.... they had a voice recording of him.....yet NOBODY in that small town knew him??

His wife? Apparently not.

Look it up!

Sinisterdexter · 16/09/2024 20:46

sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:43

Chris Watts murder also very much intrigued me. Murdering a spouse isn’t that shocking but the fact she was pregnant and he killed his little girls too.

And that his family has forgiven him and I saw a YouTube video of the sister telling him whilst on a prison call about the tribute the family had to the girls and how the CD kept skipping and it was the girls spirit playing with it - like they were laughing and joking like it was a normal every day conversation.

I often look at you tube videos of Shanaan Watts and the dc.
I just can’t believe the cruel way Watts murdered and disposed of his family in a few hours.

sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:44

WhiteTowel · 16/09/2024 20:41

James Bulger.

Yeah this one, I’m the same age as James so it’s sad to think he’d be my age and what he missed out on.

Would be life long torment to have been one of the people that saw them and stopped them.

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Beaverbridge · 16/09/2024 20:43

The Nairn banker. Funnily enough was on the news tonight, the case is being reviewed.

Marinade · 16/09/2024 20:43

Suzuki70 · 16/09/2024 20:37

Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon in Panama. There is no way they got lost. I've read books/watched documentaries/scoured Reddit.

Also the Delphi murders. I'm amazed they caught him.

The women who died in Panama is such an eerie and sinister case. Is the overriding theory that foul play was involved?

Richard Allen and Delphi - he confessed numerous times. Seems very odd thing to do if you were innocent.

Missy Beavers is another very intriguing case as is the case of Rey Rivera and Nora Quoririn, the girl who died in Malaysia and whose body was seemingly located by a Shamen who did an exchange with a Jin or genie.

RIP.

sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:43

Chris Watts murder also very much intrigued me. Murdering a spouse isn’t that shocking but the fact she was pregnant and he killed his little girls too.

And that his family has forgiven him and I saw a YouTube video of the sister telling him whilst on a prison call about the tribute the family had to the girls and how the CD kept skipping and it was the girls spirit playing with it - like they were laughing and joking like it was a normal every day conversation.

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