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To ask if you’ve ever become obsessed with a murder case?

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sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:26

I was watching a true crime podcast on YouTube and it finished and went to a random suggestion and it was a 2 minute video of a crime scene inside a subway from the 80s on an ordinary news channel.

I looked into the case and there’s nothing on it apart from a one column blurb in the newspaper at the time and the victims photo being sold on Amazon. It’s so weird .. and I can’t stop thinking about it.

Anyone else?

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LuluBlakey1 · 17/09/2024 01:37

cerebuswannabe · 16/09/2024 20:40

Claudia Lawrence case baffles me. So sad her dad died without knowing what happened to his daughter.

I think the police know what happened and who is responsible- they just don't have enough evidence to prosecute. They sent a file to the CPS and that was the outcome. They need someone to speak up but for whatever reason, no one will.

The new podcast series about the case is interesting. It raises questions not explored before.

TypingoftheDead · 17/09/2024 01:31

PuppiesLove · 16/09/2024 22:58

Obsessed, no, but there's one I followed closely in the media having met the victim. Very interesting case anyway, but it felt close to home having interacted with the person, even though it wasn't really anything to do with me personally.

I’m pretty sure one of my former (very short term) colleagues was murdered, several years ago - I saw a very familiar looking woman’s face on the news, and nothing was ever mentioned again, even by other colleagues who might have seen the story. I’m just hoping that meant it wasn’t her, but who knows?

PrestonHood121 · 17/09/2024 01:04

West Memphis 3. I’d like to believe they were all innocent but lately I’ve been starting think otherwise for at least 2 out of 3. Someone out there knows what happened to those poor boys.

Mumandcarer80 · 17/09/2024 00:59

Allthehorsesintheworld · 17/09/2024 00:54

I’ve often thought what a difference mobile phones would have made. People who stopped them would have been more likely to ask what’s his mum’s number I’ll call her, or even think I’m calling the police this looks off. With smart phones and the internet it might already have been on newsfeeds and sm that James was missing.

The only thing I agree they do right in the US is the Amber alert system they have over there. It has been spoken about before.

Mumandcarer80 · 17/09/2024 00:56

This wasn't a murder but Charlotte Jones her mum abandoned her in some woods in Warrington. Then reported her missing. The police had a whip round to buy her a Teletubby. Was in 98 I remember as I was pregnant with DS. I just think WTF goes through some parents heads. Often wonder what happened to her.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/may/22/helencarter

To ask if you’ve ever become obsessed with a murder case?
Allthehorsesintheworld · 17/09/2024 00:54

sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:44

Yeah this one, I’m the same age as James so it’s sad to think he’d be my age and what he missed out on.

Would be life long torment to have been one of the people that saw them and stopped them.

I’ve often thought what a difference mobile phones would have made. People who stopped them would have been more likely to ask what’s his mum’s number I’ll call her, or even think I’m calling the police this looks off. With smart phones and the internet it might already have been on newsfeeds and sm that James was missing.

Firefly1987 · 17/09/2024 00:53

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 17/09/2024 00:29

I have always read up on Jon Bennet Ramsay.

Can this be moved to the True Crime board?

Oh yes me too. I switch between the family members on who killed her. No one really believes it was anyone outside the family. A very odd case-that ransom note!

KerryBlues · 17/09/2024 00:40

mrsmiawallace3 · 17/09/2024 00:31

Sophie Toscan du Plantier. Read every iota of evidence, and am convinced I
figured it out. Really feel for her poor parents.

Ian Bailey, I suppose?

mrsmiawallace3 · 17/09/2024 00:31

Sophie Toscan du Plantier. Read every iota of evidence, and am convinced I
figured it out. Really feel for her poor parents.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 17/09/2024 00:29

I have always read up on Jon Bennet Ramsay.

Can this be moved to the True Crime board?

Elliania · 17/09/2024 00:25

The murders of Christopher Byers, Stevie Branch & Michael Moore in West Memphis, Arkansas. The discourse between both sides (did the West Memphis 3 do it or was it someone else) is fascinating but the most awful thing was the botched investigation by the state. Then, when it became clear that the WM3 would get a new trial, they arranged legal matters so that no-one else can ever be tried for the crimes. Meaning this case really won't ever be solved.

GlitchStitch · 17/09/2024 00:25

I also find both the Chris Watts and Scott Peterson cases interesting. They are both so similar to me, outwardly mild mannered, almost taciturn. But capable of such brutal violence. And similar behaviour afterwards too, devoid of feelings of grief and guilt.

Carouselfish · 17/09/2024 00:23

I can't bear that Watts one. What a monster. Why does anyone talk to him? Family must be as mad as he is.
Listening to the Kristen Smart podcast Your Own Backyard was good.
Hadn't heard they caught the Delphi guy. Good.

mommatoone · 17/09/2024 00:19

DrunkTinkerbell40s · 16/09/2024 22:56

The murder of Bobbi-Anne McLeod by Cody Ackland. She was a young 18 year old at a bus stop, he was a 24 year old good looking band member who had what looked from the outside to be a great life. He snatched her from the bus stop and murdered her. It didn't appear to be sexually motivated. I just can't fathom why he did it and I think because of their ages, him being in a successful band, it just really shocked me.

Yes I recall this . It stuck in my mind probably for the Same reasons as you. Just vert random,normal guy etc. I'm sure I have seen a podcast about this though which uncovered a sinister side to him? Could be Emma Kenny podcast maybe. I'll try and find it.. *edited- yes it was Emma Kenny on YouTube. Have a look, I think you will find it interesting.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 17/09/2024 00:16

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/09/2024 00:01

That Mitchell documentary is a load of biased, baseless tripe, paid for by his own family, and features a pair of former police officers who were booted out of the force for taking bribes and planting fabricated evidence, and yet portrays them as "experts" and says nothing about their histories.

Mitchell and his mother always had an extremely "odd" relationship, and he's as guilty as sin.

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It was a C5 ‘documentary’ but yes, agree with it was all a farce.

I know detectives who worked on the original case and they are hardworking decent people. He is guilty as sin and a lot of the case never made it into the public domain.

AbbeyGrange · 17/09/2024 00:14

Mumandcarer80 · 16/09/2024 23:51

Some cases get more attention than others for some reason.

This little girl never gets mentioned. I remember reading about this case in a newspaper. Social workers were too scared to go to their flat. Imagine how scared that little girl was being tortured and starved.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2002/sep/21/childrensservices.childprotection1

Bless her heart ... she'd be 24 now.

Poundshop · 17/09/2024 00:13

The unsolved murder of British woman Yvonne O'Brien in Majorca.

She was left murdered, mutilated, hanging from a wire and the words "love, peace and sex" were written on the nearby wall in her blood.

Really sad.

katseyes7 · 17/09/2024 00:10

Several people have mentioned it, but the Claudia Lawrence case still sticks in my mind.
I moved to York 12 years ago, three years after she went missing, and there was still a 'Missing Person' poster of her in Waitrose at the time.
I didn't realise for a while, but l didn't live far from her home, my local post office was the one she was seen at on CCTV the day before she disappeared, posting a letter. Also l used to drive past her house to go to and from work, but that didn't register with me until much later on.
That's a busy road, and often l'd be in traffic and my eye was always drawn by the green door. It was a bit of a shock when l realised why. I actually lived very close to the route she took to and from the college.
Unfortunately l don't think we'll ever find out what happened to her. I'm pretty sure some people (and the police) know, but the evidence isn't there, and supposedly there was a 'wall of silence' in the area. One tv journalist said he was 'warned off' in her local pub.

1dayatathyme · 17/09/2024 00:07

Definitely not an obsession but the Lucy Letby case makes me shiver yet I take it all in. If there is even a slight chance she is innocent as many professionals have stated, it would be an absolute abomination of our justice system.

TheFireflies · 17/09/2024 00:07

I wouldn’t say obsessed but I’m certainly interested in what humans are capable of.

one I’m keeping tabs on and reading about is the murder of Christina Parcell in the US. A Juilliard-trained concert pianist was arrested and at first unclear why, he did not seem a likely killer. The stuff that’s come out since has been completely left field. There had been an ongoing custody battle with the father of her child with him at one point kidnapping the child, but it’s since come out that Christina and her boyfriend were likely involved in making child sex abuse and bestiality videos.

The accused killer seems to have been friendly with Christina’s ex (child’s father) and I can only think that the concerns of abuse are linked to her death somehow. It will be an interesting trial for the lawyers.

GlitchStitch · 17/09/2024 00:06

SamVan · 16/09/2024 23:14

The Springfield 3 - so bizarre and can’t imagine how three women were kidnapped from their home with no clue who did it to this day.

This is the one that gets to me too. It's like they just evaporated into thin air, so bizarre.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/09/2024 00:01

HotPotato123 · 16/09/2024 22:52

A south east scotland one, Jodi jones. Her boyfriend at the time Luke Mitchell was jailed for her (very brutal) murder. There was a STV documentary made a few years back that kind of showed Mitchell as being innocent, many think he is. He has always claimed to be innocent.

poor Jodi. I am from the same town as it happened so it hit home.

That Mitchell documentary is a load of biased, baseless tripe, paid for by his own family, and features a pair of former police officers who were booted out of the force for taking bribes and planting fabricated evidence, and yet portrays them as "experts" and says nothing about their histories.

Mitchell and his mother always had an extremely "odd" relationship, and he's as guilty as sin.

Mumandcarer80 · 16/09/2024 23:57

IHaveNoMoreFucksToGive · 16/09/2024 23:54

Not obsessed as such but I've always wondered about Ames Glover the 5 month old baby boy that went missing when his Father, Paul Glover left him in the car to go to the cashpoint
Southall
About 35 years ago
He's never been heard of since

Yes I often think of that little boy. He's had nowhere near as much media attention as Ben Needham Charlise Lee or Madeline McCann.

Mumandcarer80 · 16/09/2024 23:55

Sophie Hook kidnapped out of a tent. There was a girl called Caroline as well raped and murdered in a french youth hostel.

IHaveNoMoreFucksToGive · 16/09/2024 23:54

Not obsessed as such but I've always wondered about Ames Glover the 5 month old baby boy that went missing when his Father, Paul Glover left him in the car to go to the cashpoint
Southall
About 35 years ago
He's never been heard of since

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