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To ask if you’ve ever become obsessed with a murder case?

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sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:26

I was watching a true crime podcast on YouTube and it finished and went to a random suggestion and it was a 2 minute video of a crime scene inside a subway from the 80s on an ordinary news channel.

I looked into the case and there’s nothing on it apart from a one column blurb in the newspaper at the time and the victims photo being sold on Amazon. It’s so weird .. and I can’t stop thinking about it.

Anyone else?

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Octopies · 17/09/2024 10:26

Kathleen Peterson and the staircase, the trial and forensic evidence is just so confusing to me.

ellebelli · 17/09/2024 10:24

Suzuki70 · 16/09/2024 20:37

Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon in Panama. There is no way they got lost. I've read books/watched documentaries/scoured Reddit.

Also the Delphi murders. I'm amazed they caught him.

This came up on a wonderful thread on here about unsolved mysteries.
I had never heard od the two girls but quickly became fascinated by the case.
It's definitely strange and the calls and photos only add to it.

Thistooshallpass24 · 17/09/2024 10:20

I find true crime interesting, but some ppl are chatting shit about ppl who until a body has been found are legally missing not a murder case! So therefore should be removed

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 17/09/2024 10:18

Thistooshallpass24 · 17/09/2024 09:34

There are some very dumb things said on this thread, several ppl mentioned are missing and not a murder case.
Would you be happy if it was someone you knew being discussed as a "favourite murderer case" when the are legally a missing person
Maybe ppl should think before replying?
Yes I can not read this, hide it or whatever but it's still shitty behaviour of certain posters.

This is why this thread needs to be moved to the True Crime board, people always moan about threads like these. You can always hide it as you say as you can't police what others say.

Norma27 · 17/09/2024 10:17

I was at uni with a young woman called Isabel peake- not sure on spelling. She was coming home for weekend from France and was thrown off a train. Think about it often. Her killer sid rozales- again not sure of spelling - was caught and killed himself in a Portuguese prison. He killed 2 or 3 women and I think would have killed many more if not caught.

KimberleyClark · 17/09/2024 10:09

The JFK assassination if that counts.

katseyes7 · 17/09/2024 10:02

Sharontheodopolodous
I lived in one of the blocks in Olympian Court, which is just off Hull Road, and very close to the crossroads for Melrosegate/Tang Hall Club and the Shell garage, and l worked at Monks Cross at the time, so l travelled to and from work that way.
It's so weird, when l moved there (I'm from Northumberland) it didn't even occur to me until l saw the poster in Waitrose and then things started to click with me.
I'm pretty sure the police know who's responsible, but they don't have enough evidence, and people aren't talking. Someone MUST know. I reckon they do.

StMarieforme · 17/09/2024 09:46

Mumandcarer80 · 16/09/2024 23:51

Some cases get more attention than others for some reason.

This little girl never gets mentioned. I remember reading about this case in a newspaper. Social workers were too scared to go to their flat. Imagine how scared that little girl was being tortured and starved.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2002/sep/21/childrensservices.childprotection1

My eldest son is in the emergency services. He often makes a safeguarding referral that a colleague wouldn't bother with. He told me he never wants to be responsible for a missed opportunity. So heartbreaking that so many reported concerns have gone unheeded. RIP little one.

Sharontheodopolodous · 17/09/2024 09:44

katseyes7 · 17/09/2024 00:10

Several people have mentioned it, but the Claudia Lawrence case still sticks in my mind.
I moved to York 12 years ago, three years after she went missing, and there was still a 'Missing Person' poster of her in Waitrose at the time.
I didn't realise for a while, but l didn't live far from her home, my local post office was the one she was seen at on CCTV the day before she disappeared, posting a letter. Also l used to drive past her house to go to and from work, but that didn't register with me until much later on.
That's a busy road, and often l'd be in traffic and my eye was always drawn by the green door. It was a bit of a shock when l realised why. I actually lived very close to the route she took to and from the college.
Unfortunately l don't think we'll ever find out what happened to her. I'm pretty sure some people (and the police) know, but the evidence isn't there, and supposedly there was a 'wall of silence' in the area. One tv journalist said he was 'warned off' in her local pub.

My parents live between her house and the uni (just up the road to the working mens club/shell garage) and I used to live further down (a street off melrosegate,just a bit further down from hull road/tang hall park)

My ds lives around the corner to her

I was a bridesmaid at the church on the corner,I think there may be a photo of her standing where I stood at a wedding

I've drank in the nags head (as an underage teen but looked a lot older)

My father was walking her route (but from the other way) that morning at the same time (he's not a creep,he was taking a parcel to ds's flat in heworth as ds needed it and was on way home from a night shift) and should have seen her pass him if she had made it that far,but saw nothing

He would have remembered her as he normally didn't see anyone-he did ring the police but nobody got back to him and then it was said she'd been seen talking to a man on melrosegate Bridge near the church and again on the grounds (it's weird to think I used to use my sledge there as a kid)

My ex was her bin man,and it took them almost 6 years to interview him as he had done her bins the morning before (i think-it could have been the morning she disappeared)

It took them a while to check the alleyway behind her house too (although they may have checked at the time but I saw it years later on the news,around the time my ex was going for his interview)

And why did that car stop where it did?the traffic lights are a lot further down the street near the church

And the van near the chip shop that was just sat there?

the man caught on cctv,stood waiting until people passed (although a lot of men I know would have done the same to allow females to walk past without feeling threatened)

It's very strange to see an area I know so well on the tv,I've used that post office to collect my child benefit,the shops to pick up basics,the pizza shop for a cheeky dinner,was a nanny at the house behind the shops and my best friend still lives just down the road to the shops

ChickAndTheDuck · 17/09/2024 09:41

MyStylish40s · 17/09/2024 09:41

I can’t find the post now so can’t quote, but just wanted to say that in the video where Chris Watts discovers that Shannan is pregnant with their 3rd child, I don’t think he looks happy at all. I think he’s clearly acting for the camera.

Yes I think that too, he looks very uncomfortable and trying his hardest to look happy but it was very obvious that he wasn't.

MyStylish40s · 17/09/2024 09:41

I can’t find the post now so can’t quote, but just wanted to say that in the video where Chris Watts discovers that Shannan is pregnant with their 3rd child, I don’t think he looks happy at all. I think he’s clearly acting for the camera.

Charmatt · 17/09/2024 09:38

StMarieforme · 17/09/2024 09:33

Notts?

Yes - the family never got closure because he pleaded guilty and wouldn't tell them why. He then killed himself in jail and her mother felt that he's taken the coward's way out.

It was the first case ever to be featured on Crimewatch and it profoundly changed the village.

Thistooshallpass24 · 17/09/2024 09:34

There are some very dumb things said on this thread, several ppl mentioned are missing and not a murder case.
Would you be happy if it was someone you knew being discussed as a "favourite murderer case" when the are legally a missing person
Maybe ppl should think before replying?
Yes I can not read this, hide it or whatever but it's still shitty behaviour of certain posters.

StMarieforme · 17/09/2024 09:33

Charmatt · 16/09/2024 22:51

There was a murder in the village I grew up in, when I had just started secondary school. A 16 year girl was raped and murdered. It wasn't solved for over 26 years.

It completely changed the village, it destroyed the family and it had a huge lasting effect.

I was obsessed with it for the whole duration. He never gave the family an explanation.

Notts?

StMarieforme · 17/09/2024 09:32

AdviceNeeded2024 · 16/09/2024 22:48

I always think about those unsolved cases, or missing people, at least one person somewhere knows what happened to them, how do they feel, do they spend their life looking over their shoulder that they might be caught or do they not care, and how can they live with themselves knowing what they’ve done or that the loved ones of the victim are suffering so much.

If they're psychopaths then they won't care. It's unthinkable for anyone else, but they literally see and have no consequence.

TheRulerofThings · 17/09/2024 09:05

@Over40Overdating I was on maternity leave when Graham Dwyer’s trial for the murder of Elaine O’Hara was taking place and I remember reading every single paragraph written about it. He is such an evil, evil man - a predator in every sense of the word.

Paul Williams’ book ‘Almost the Perfect Murder’ on it is very good. The sheer number of coincidences which led to the murder being discovered and him being caught are almost unbelievable - if it was fiction you would say it was far fetched. The testimony from the previously suicidal American woman who said he was trying to convince her to let him kill her was terrifying and very distressing. His former partner testifying that he brought a knife to bed was incredibly disturbing. The world is a much safer place with him behind bars.

RIP Elaine. I am so glad for her family that all his appeals have been rejected and justice has prevailed.

bringincrazyback · 17/09/2024 08:47

Youllnevergetabetterbitofbutteronyourknife · 16/09/2024 23:36

I love true crime. The most disturbing case I ever watched on YouTube is the murder of Junko Furuta. The poor girl was kidnapped, held for 40 days, whilst being perpetually raped, tortured and eventually killed by a gang of young men. It is the single most horrific thing I have ever seen and I've watched a lot. It has stuck with me.

Oh God yes, that one is harrowing. I only found out about it recently but I've not been able to forget it either. That poor poor girl.

Member984815 · 17/09/2024 08:35

MaidOfSteel · 16/09/2024 22:02

Back in the 80s (when it was much harder to lear more about US cases) I became very interested in the case of a young teen named Cinnamon Brown. She was manipulated by her father into murdering her stepmother, Linda, Ann Rule wrote a book about the whole sad thing, called 'If You Really Loved Me.' Her father really was a piece of work.

I still always think about Suzy Lamplugh and Claudia Lawrence, and hope that we'll have answers about them one day.

I remember the movie of that case , he was such a manipulater.

thoonerismspread · 17/09/2024 08:32

Also I can't remember her name (sad) but the young woman who was murdered by the man who was of Yemen elite, and he almost got away with it. I'll find it. Martina something. That case infuriated me. Typical male entitlement, murdered her because she rejected him.

Gallowayan · 17/09/2024 08:05

Yes... the Sara Boone case, (aka suitcase Sarah).

Rosscameasdoody · 17/09/2024 08:03

The Jamie Bulger case has always haunted me. I was at the shopping centre in Bootle the day he was abducted, witnessing the commotion when it was discovered he was missing. I remember the horror of watching events unfold on the news and when they announced they had found his body, the shock of learning that two such young boys were responsible for torturing and killing him.

JennyBeanR · 17/09/2024 08:02

Basically every case covered by the prosecutors podcast. Fascinating discussions, but my favourite is probably the Murdaugh murders.

thoonerismspread · 17/09/2024 07:59

SpagBolBowl · 16/09/2024 20:47

George Floyd. I watched the entire case.

Also not a case but listened to a fascinating talk by an undercover police officer who then went on to campaign for legalisation of drugs. He was also of the mindset that it would solve deforestation and help prevent climate change.

I want to know more about the police officer! Do you remember his name or any other info please? I kind of have the same opinion having worked for the police.

Claudia Lawrence is definitely one for me. I'm also fascinated with Alice Glaston, although that is very different.

StMarieforme · 17/09/2024 07:52

Newname71 · 16/09/2024 22:16

The murder of Sophie Lancaster really got to me. I sobbed my way through the documentary. I can’t believe the bravery and drive of her mum, starting the Sophie Lancaster foundation. I wear my Weirdo, Mosher, Freak t shirt with pride.

Me too.