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To ask if you’ve ever become obsessed with a murder case?

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sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:26

I was watching a true crime podcast on YouTube and it finished and went to a random suggestion and it was a 2 minute video of a crime scene inside a subway from the 80s on an ordinary news channel.

I looked into the case and there’s nothing on it apart from a one column blurb in the newspaper at the time and the victims photo being sold on Amazon. It’s so weird .. and I can’t stop thinking about it.

Anyone else?

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Paul2023 · 16/10/2024 00:22

Elderflower14 · 18/09/2024 10:28

Harry and Nicola Fuller. Murdered by a guy Harry knew. The killers voice was broadcast on Crimewatch and loads of people recognised it. He was convicted of their murder then it transpired that the jury had used a ouija board and there was a retrial.. What a thing for their families to go through..

Ive driven through Wadhurst quite a few times. It was big news in the area at the time I think and I’ve since seen the case featured on crime watch on YouTube.

Scorchio84 · 06/10/2024 05:39

@Wildbird12 yeah that's the murder/suicide I'm talking about, there's no way he "flipped" like you said it was all planned, I just can't imagine the terror in that house.
Shortly after the funerals Clodagh's family requested & were granted that his body be removed from the families side & rightly so, there was certainly an element of "the poor man, he must have been under so much stress" everyone was outraged & that particular narrative stopped pretty sharpish

Wildbird12 · 05/10/2024 21:14

Scorchio84 · 05/10/2024 01:05

That reminded me of a case over here, a whole family, wife & two sons murdered by (of course) the dad because obviously they couldn't possibly live without them, he's cooked the books in school, think he was the treasurer, usual "pillar of the community" comments from the priest at the funerals sent shockwaves through the country, another prick, RTÉ made a program about it "Her Name Is Clodagh"

It was three sons I think? Absolutely awful... I think people can't process that a person could plan out the murders. I remember getting into a discussion withy mother in law where she said he 'flipped' and went crazy... But he planned it - had his weapon ready, etc. He seemed so normal - I don't know how the families move on from it.

Soditsally · 05/10/2024 04:03

The death of baby Victoria following the runaway parents - aristocratic mother , convicted rapist father who were finally found after sleeping in a tent in January and dumping their deceased baby in a carrier bag full of rubbish in an allotment.
RIP Victoria

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GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 05/10/2024 01:09

Scorchio84 · 05/10/2024 01:05

That reminded me of a case over here, a whole family, wife & two sons murdered by (of course) the dad because obviously they couldn't possibly live without them, he's cooked the books in school, think he was the treasurer, usual "pillar of the community" comments from the priest at the funerals sent shockwaves through the country, another prick, RTÉ made a program about it "Her Name Is Clodagh"

Yes, I came across that case on a previous MN thread.

I was so angry that the church had her buried next to him and so glad she was moved away. I’ll always remember that name.

Scorchio84 · 05/10/2024 01:05

GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 03/10/2024 22:57

Channel 5 had a doc on it last night, one of the talking heads said that Chris Watts may have wanted to wipe out the view of himself as a man who cheats on his wife by killing them all. He couldn’t just leave them with a divorce.

I think she’s right, he was a narcissist that put his self-image ahead of the lives of his wife and children.

That reminded me of a case over here, a whole family, wife & two sons murdered by (of course) the dad because obviously they couldn't possibly live without them, he's cooked the books in school, think he was the treasurer, usual "pillar of the community" comments from the priest at the funerals sent shockwaves through the country, another prick, RTÉ made a program about it "Her Name Is Clodagh"

Elderflower14 · 04/10/2024 19:13

Peasenhall Murder
This is the podcast of the murder of Rose Harsent in a village close to me.
My late great aunt could remember it happening and used to talk to me about it.

Scorchio84 · 04/10/2024 18:56

QueenHilda · 04/10/2024 18:44

I think I lost a whole weekend on Tsunamis and flash floods. Flash floods in particular are insane! I’m such a ghoul.

I'm exactly the same & it's literally once you start on one you're done for hours (days!)

Scorchio84 · 04/10/2024 18:54

@Boiledbeetle jesus christ I'm gobsmacked, I can't believe you lived through that x

QueenHilda · 04/10/2024 18:44

Scorchio84 · 04/10/2024 18:34

Oh god me too! Any kind of disasters really tbh, I lose hours to them

I think I lost a whole weekend on Tsunamis and flash floods. Flash floods in particular are insane! I’m such a ghoul.

Scorchio84 · 04/10/2024 18:34

QueenHilda · 21/09/2024 21:04

Not murder, but I have a morbid fascination for plane accidents. Was obsessed with MH370 for some time.

Also space travel disasters.

I love flying, bizarrely!

Oh god me too! Any kind of disasters really tbh, I lose hours to them

Scorchio84 · 04/10/2024 18:10

@redalex261 Rachel Callely's (O'Reilly) mam was on the radio during the week over here, it's been 20 years if you can believe that? That prick is still trying for parole every chance he gets, no remorse, nothing, the poor woman sounds broken, he took so much from that family, they're from my home area

I watched The Laci Peterson, An American Murder series on Netflix recently, again another senseless murder by an absolute monster

HiThereBatFace · 04/10/2024 17:44

Janet Brown in Radnage.

AbbeyGrange · 04/10/2024 17:24

Aliflowers · 04/10/2024 14:13

Yep the baby P case. To this day I get a lump
in my throat when I think about that poor child. How he was utterly failed by everyone who should have protected him. I read about the case constantly and watched all the news reports. I think there was an element of my brain not being able to comprehend how horrifically the poor mite was treated

Same here, I sobbed for days reading about that darling boy, it really got to me. I will never in a million years understand women who put boyfriends before their children.

Aliflowers · 04/10/2024 14:13

Yep the baby P case. To this day I get a lump
in my throat when I think about that poor child. How he was utterly failed by everyone who should have protected him. I read about the case constantly and watched all the news reports. I think there was an element of my brain not being able to comprehend how horrifically the poor mite was treated

beeloubee · 04/10/2024 13:03

Claudia lawrence
And Nicola Bulley although it was ruled as an accident

Suzuki70 · 04/10/2024 13:00

Paul2023 · 03/10/2024 22:24

Years ago I read up on the James Bulger case and watched documentaries.

But since being a parent, I struggle to read anything to do with it. I think it’s because I have a son who’s 4 now, and I can completely imagine him going off with two older boys to play.

I often think of this case.

Poor James, he was only out shopping on an ordinary day but with his mum.

Same. I'm fairly hardened to true crime but I can't read anything about it. My little boy is 5.

Paul2023 · 04/10/2024 12:48

Someone mentioned Billie Jo Jenkins. Her foster dad was charged I think ,but acquitted. Can’t remember if he went to prison for a while.Sean Jenkins was his name.

So her murder was never actually solved.

Paul2023 · 04/10/2024 12:45

Auburngal · 17/09/2024 07:34

Also Colin Pitchfork. Both Lynda and Dawn came from villages 7 miles from where I live.

Dont get the law courts obsession with wanting Pitchfork on parole. He needs permanent locking up as he was on parole once and didnt last 5 mins.

Crazy isn’t it ? He murdered two women and was let out because he served his minimum term..

Thankfully murder sentencing does seem higher than it was previously..

GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 03/10/2024 22:57

sheknoedidhitit · 16/09/2024 20:43

Chris Watts murder also very much intrigued me. Murdering a spouse isn’t that shocking but the fact she was pregnant and he killed his little girls too.

And that his family has forgiven him and I saw a YouTube video of the sister telling him whilst on a prison call about the tribute the family had to the girls and how the CD kept skipping and it was the girls spirit playing with it - like they were laughing and joking like it was a normal every day conversation.

Channel 5 had a doc on it last night, one of the talking heads said that Chris Watts may have wanted to wipe out the view of himself as a man who cheats on his wife by killing them all. He couldn’t just leave them with a divorce.

I think she’s right, he was a narcissist that put his self-image ahead of the lives of his wife and children.

GuPuddingRamekinHoarder · 03/10/2024 22:44

Suzanne Sevakis.

Kidnapped by her step-father at the age of 4, sexually abused, forced to marry him as a teen, raped at gunpoint, forced to be a stripper / prostitute to earn him money, went through 2/3 pregnancies, finally killed by him in a ‘hit and run’ car accident. After her death he then killed her son.

A bright girl who dreamed of becoming an aerospace engineer. So much potential stolen by a depraved man.

Paul2023 · 03/10/2024 22:24

Years ago I read up on the James Bulger case and watched documentaries.

But since being a parent, I struggle to read anything to do with it. I think it’s because I have a son who’s 4 now, and I can completely imagine him going off with two older boys to play.

I often think of this case.

Poor James, he was only out shopping on an ordinary day but with his mum.

bookworm14 · 02/10/2024 14:04

No mystery involved, but I think often of poor Emily Jones who was killed in Bolton by a woman with paranoid schizophrenia. Just the random horror of it - that a normal day out in the park with your child could end with them dead. I can't begin to imagine how her parents must have suffered.

The other one that sticks in my mind is the disappearance of Ruth Wilson in Surrey in 1995. The circumstances are so odd and it is one of those rare cases where it's possible to believe she is still alive somewhere.

Boiledbeetle · 02/10/2024 13:23

Georgieporgie29 · 02/10/2024 13:08

@Boiledbeetle I have nothing to add to this thread but I just wanted to say how sorry I am that this happened to you. I hope you’ve managed to bury many of the demons and live your life the best you can. You come across so well on your posts and I truly hope you get access to the information you want someday.

I've made my peace with it as much as I can. Hopefully once the file on the murder is allowed to be accessed it will help answer some of the questions I still have as to how he managed to end up in my life!