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Who is BU? Kids had noro, their dad is refusing to take them to school

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biohazardservant · 16/09/2024 20:22

I'll try to keep it brief -

Kids came down with noro on Thur-sat. No symptoms since late sat evening.

One child puked on me. I'm now having noro symptoms and am physically too unwell to take them to school in the morning due to vomiting.

Their dad and I don't live together. He has a new baby with his new girlfriend. He's refusing point blank to take the kids to school in case the baby catches it and won't listen when I say the kids are now absolutely fine.

School is saying they must go in tomorrow if they're no longer ill.

I don't have anyone else to ask.

Genuinely can't tell if I'm BU at the moment or if he is.

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EconomyClassRockstar · 17/09/2024 00:03

Have the kids got bad attendance records because otherwise, why wouldn't you just tell the school they're not ready to be back? They don't know!

ReadingSoManyThreads · 17/09/2024 00:00

oakleaffy · 16/09/2024 23:53

Absolutely true.
I had it in Spring, and had to carry a bucket while taking the dog out into the garden for a wee.
Even feeding her, the smell of the food {normally fine} set me off puking.

Surely a school doesn't want children who are infectious in the school- Norovirus is so grim.

Edited

Schools only seem to care about attendance figures these days. It really infuriates me that they demand encourage parents to send unwell children into school. Some schools even contradict NHS guidelines and demand that children are sent in 24hrs after D&V. It's horrible.

oakleaffy · 16/09/2024 23:53

lifebyfaith · 16/09/2024 20:42

No one should be driving if they are likely to be sick! Totally dangerous.

Absolutely true.
I had it in Spring, and had to carry a bucket while taking the dog out into the garden for a wee.
Even feeding her, the smell of the food {normally fine} set me off puking.

Surely a school doesn't want children who are infectious in the school- Norovirus is so grim.

oakleaffy · 16/09/2024 23:49

AGirlInACountrySong · 16/09/2024 20:29

He's maybe got his child's mother on his case too

@biohazardservant Bet his latest babymommy is giving him grief about catching norovirus.

Hope you feel better soon- your ex sounds a Kay-nob.

Snugglemonkey · 16/09/2024 23:38

Runnerinthenight · 16/09/2024 21:28

What if the new baby was living in the same house?

That would be unfortunate, as the risk to the baby would be high. It is not the case here though.

BarbaraHoward · 16/09/2024 23:38

ReadingSoManyThreads · 16/09/2024 23:35

It's much better for babies if they are breastfed when it comes to norovirus. Sure, it's really hard for mum breastfeeding when she has norovirus (I've been there twice), BUT the antibodies the baby gets from the mum are invaluable.

Formula fed babies often end up in hospital if they contract noro, because they don't get the antibodies from mum to fight it.

Oh I know, antibodies and all that. But the idea that it's totally fine for a breastfed baby to get noro is just wrong, and (as with so many statements about breastfeeding!) completely ignores the woman attached to the food supply.

Fair play to you for surviving that, and twice. I managed to dodge it while breastfeeding (thanks covid) but had it when pregnant and it was awful.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 16/09/2024 23:37

Coruscations · 16/09/2024 23:24

There's an excellent chance the school will put in place attendance procedures resulting in fines.

Let them, I'm sure the magistrate will be thrilled to hear her case that they couldn't attend due to a highly contagious virus.

Starlight7080 · 16/09/2024 23:36

To be fair you can be contagious for a couple of weeks . So I understand he may be worried about his newborn getting sick.
But also that you feel under pressure to get the kids to school.
But they are in primary school and they will have to just understand that you are physically to sick to take them.
Call in the morning and say if they want to send a teacher to collect them they can. But you can't drive and be sick it's dangerous.
They only worry about attendance for ofsted. Not that sometimes life is just not that simple.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 16/09/2024 23:35

BarbaraHoward · 16/09/2024 23:30

Arguably it's worse if they do, because their mum will invariably have it too but have to keep feeding through unless they take a bottle. At least with formula someone else can take over for the 12 hours the mum can't leave the bathroom.

It's much better for babies if they are breastfed when it comes to norovirus. Sure, it's really hard for mum breastfeeding when she has norovirus (I've been there twice), BUT the antibodies the baby gets from the mum are invaluable.

Formula fed babies often end up in hospital if they contract noro, because they don't get the antibodies from mum to fight it.

Goldbar · 16/09/2024 23:34

Cyclingmummy1 · 16/09/2024 22:49

Interesting that you ex is getting praise for prioritising his new family. Generally on MN this is a no-no so not sure why he's getting so much support?

Probably because everyone is being overly squeamish about the prospect of a tiny baby contracting noro. Whereas of course the dad should accept the baby's potential hospitalisation and/or death as a fair trade for ensuring that the older kids don't miss out on the chance to infect their teachers and classmates.

I suspect endangering tiny babies is viewed a bit like kicking puppies and kittens on here - i.e. not very popular.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 16/09/2024 23:32

You're being completely unreasonable.

I had norovirus after having BOTH of my children, the first when she was only 6 weeks old, the second, she was about 8 weeks old. It was horrific. Trying to breastfeed babies while I'm pissing water out of my ass and throwing up at the same time was awful. If I'd have had children in school, they wouldn't have been going in.

Why on earth did you tell the school they were better? You need to be firm with the school, that you have norovirus and have no way of getting them to school, and that you are happy to have a staff member come collect them if they are so adamant that they attend tomorrow. OR tell the school that they've been sick again, so are still ill.

It's not safe for you to drive with norovirus, you'll put your children and strangers at risk if you drive in that state.

Stand up to the school. Norovirus is highly contagious. Your husband is not being unreasonable over this.

BarbaraHoward · 16/09/2024 23:30

OrwellianTimes · 16/09/2024 23:25

Breastfed babies can get noro, what are you on about?

Arguably it's worse if they do, because their mum will invariably have it too but have to keep feeding through unless they take a bottle. At least with formula someone else can take over for the 12 hours the mum can't leave the bathroom.

OrwellianTimes · 16/09/2024 23:25

Bellsbeachwaves · 16/09/2024 22:32

If the baby is breastfed he is being unreasonable.

And anyway they are his children. Hoow anyone can say I'm not having my children is beyond me. If my children had norovirus I'd have them.

Anyway once youve puked tonight, don't eat, you'll be fine, get them to school go back to bed

Breastfed babies can get noro, what are you on about?

Coruscations · 16/09/2024 23:24

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 16/09/2024 20:50

Goodness what a load of fuss over nothingness. Chances are you will be well enough just to drop that off tomorrow morning. If you’re not the t hey just get at home. What do you think the school are going to do send someone around to your house?

There's an excellent chance the school will put in place attendance procedures resulting in fines.

OrwellianTimes · 16/09/2024 23:23

nosleepforme · 16/09/2024 22:26

WTH is Noro?

Norovirus.

In the words of Dr House MD, it just ain’t noro unless it’s coming out of both ends.

Jumpingthruhoops · 16/09/2024 23:23

PyongyangKipperbang · 16/09/2024 22:45

"Dear School

Yes the children are well enough to attend, however I now have Noro and am too unwell to get them there. Unfortunately their father, who has parental responsibility, is refusing to take them. Please direct any further correspondence regarding this to him. I have no other support network that can help me with this. I will of course get them into school as soon as I am physically able and will update you as to when this will be."

Unfortunately their father, who has parental responsibility, is refusing to take them.

Surely it's because he has parental responsibility (to a newborn) that he's refusing to take them?

OrwellianTimes · 16/09/2024 23:21

Soontobe60 · 16/09/2024 20:30

If he has a new baby, I can understand where he’s coming from.

Agreed. It’s rubbish but I wouldn’t risk exposing a newborn to noro.

FasterMichelin · 16/09/2024 23:15

biohazardservant · 16/09/2024 20:26

This is his latest message. The school has already been on my case today because they weren't in.

To be honest I think he has a point. I wouldn't want a little baby getting the sickness bug either, it's dangerous.

Either they have one more day off or you drag yourself in to drop them off. You have a full 12 hours yet, a lot changes.

Jumpingthruhoops · 16/09/2024 23:15

5475878237NC · 16/09/2024 20:35

Presumably he wants to be sure they're symptom free and away from you so not just one big germ transfer?

Exactly. Yes, the kids themselves are symptom-free but they are still coming from a house where there's an 'active virus', which they could have on them and transfer in/onto the car that the dad, new wife and new baby will later be travelling in. Personally, I think he's wise to try and limit contamination.
To be honest, if more people were this mindful, noro and the like might not be as virulent.

j2qb · 16/09/2024 23:14

There’s no way I’d want to expose a new baby to noro, so I can sort of understand where he’s coming from. That said, these kids already existed and he shouldn’t just say “can’t” when something’s needed. He should be helping you sort out a way of getting them there.

in your position, Id put a waterproof covering of some sort (eg mattress protector, puppy pad, whatever you have) over your car seat and get a sick bowl next to you on the passenger seat and just drive them yourself.

youll probably have puked everything up by then, if you shit yourself the covering will catch it. Your kids will be fine at school and therefore ex will collect them and take them, leaving you to recover.

Bellyblueboy · 16/09/2024 23:12

U53rName · 16/09/2024 20:49

He lost me at “ain’t”.

😂 me too. Hopefully he isn’t doing homework with his children!

ImNotAsThinkAsYouDrunkIAm · 16/09/2024 23:12

Dear god, the hysteria over school attendance. Shite dad aside, the school can insist all they want, but if you aren’t well enough to drive them in, then they can’t go, can they? Ask them what they propose. If the school cares that much they can come and collect them. Or they can mark the absence unauthorised, and, honestly, the sky won’t fall in. You won’t get a fine unless it’s 10 unauthorised sessions (5 days) in a row, and even then, it’s not automatic, they only have to consider a fine. Seriously, schools can throw their weight around and threaten all they like, but sometimes shit - literally - happens. If you’re not well enough to drive them there, and their dad won’t, then they can’t go in.

valentinka31 · 16/09/2024 23:07

I think it's fair enough, he can't risk giving that bug to a new baby. He's right, it isn't on. Getting the kids to school doesn't have to involve him - is there any other local parent they could get a lift with? He has tbf offered to bring them home if they are clearly ok.

Unforgettablefire · 16/09/2024 23:07

@Leah5678 I was just thinking the same thing. The very mention of noro would put the fear of god into them they wouldn't want them there.

Jumpingthruhoops · 16/09/2024 23:06

I'm with the dad on this one. I wouldn't want to be near anyone with noro in any event and least of all if I had a new baby at home. Sorry.