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Who is BU? Kids had noro, their dad is refusing to take them to school

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biohazardservant · 16/09/2024 20:22

I'll try to keep it brief -

Kids came down with noro on Thur-sat. No symptoms since late sat evening.

One child puked on me. I'm now having noro symptoms and am physically too unwell to take them to school in the morning due to vomiting.

Their dad and I don't live together. He has a new baby with his new girlfriend. He's refusing point blank to take the kids to school in case the baby catches it and won't listen when I say the kids are now absolutely fine.

School is saying they must go in tomorrow if they're no longer ill.

I don't have anyone else to ask.

Genuinely can't tell if I'm BU at the moment or if he is.

OP posts:
Duckinglunacy · 16/09/2024 21:17

My youngest caught noro from my older child’s nursery at about 8 months when all I did was pop him on the floor for a couple of minutes. I didn’t know there was noro in the toddler room and my older child hadn’t had it. My baby was hospitalised. YABU

user1491396110 · 16/09/2024 21:17

I'm completely with him. No way would I want to risk a young baby getting it and while you shouldn't be contagious after 48 hours many still are unfortunately.

OrangeTeabags · 16/09/2024 21:15

Sorry OP but I don't believe school are "insisting" your kids go in tomorrow, that sounds very odd.
Just call in the morning and say they aren't being sick any more but didn't sleep well, feel too weak to go in and need another day to recover. If you authorise their absence and it's under a week school will be fine, they aren't going to call you a liar.

I think you are just angry at your ex's attitude which must feel so irritating especially when you are ill and need the kids out of your hair.

But I agree with the other posters; he needs to take extra care with a small baby and is right to keep his distance while you are still unwell.

It's not a great situation at all and I hope you are all better soon but keep them off tomorrow & let them watch films/TV if you physically can't take them in. Driving while that unwell is too risky and dangerous.

Peoplerepublicocs · 16/09/2024 21:14

Just lie and say the kids are puking ?

Bunny44 · 16/09/2024 21:12

Noroviris I'd incredibly contagious for up to a week. I'd want to give you all a wide bearth and understand where he's coming from especially with the baby. Surprised the teachers think they should come in already.

DoloresHargreeves · 16/09/2024 21:12

He's doing the right thing

BaronessMachiavelli · 16/09/2024 21:12

TeaAndCakeFTW · 16/09/2024 20:53

This is one of the most unreasonable things I've seen on here, and that's saying something.

Exposing a new baby to norovirus ffs. Not a good look op.

Absolutely! Screams of bitterness! Take them to school or don't, but don't dare try and make him out to be unreasonable for not risking a newborns health! I'm sure you'd not have risked your own babies by needlessly exposing them.

doodleschnoodle · 16/09/2024 21:11

You might be able in the morning. When I've had Noro it's been really intense for the first 12 hours and then calms down a bit so I could prob manage a dash to shovel them into school and back home to collapse. I'd kind of prefer this higher risk dash over having them at home all day when they're healthy but I feel like shit as at least you could rest for the remainder of day. But if you're unable then just say they're not well, there's no other choice if dad is unwilling (and I do think it's a bit shit, baby or not and makes no sense if he's happy having them overnight anyway, does he thinking 6 hours will make the difference?)

It's shit so I sympathise.

ToBeDetermined · 16/09/2024 21:10

I don’t understand the drama, the school has zero idea when the kids noro symptoms stop. You’re not going to be fined if you just say you all have noro.

I’d just write a sick note for them until you are over the noro yourself.

I don’t think your ex is being a wanker or unreasonable, I would not risk noro getting anywhere near a newborn and it is a highly contagious disease. Even nurses in hospitals wearing gloves and masks are picking it up and passing it on- my friend who is a nurse has said noro is going round a lot right now- and then she gave it to me simply by being in the my garden for a cup of tea and a chat.

Derwent01 · 16/09/2024 21:09

biohazardservant · 16/09/2024 20:47

They are totally and absolutely fine. No symptoms, full of energy, not a hint of d/v. They also slept at his on Wed/Thur last night so he's already been exposed.

that may be, but they will likely still have the bug in the system

Rory17384949 · 16/09/2024 21:09

I can understand his point to be fair, he has a young baby to think about.

How do you take them to school? Drive or walk? If you drive them do you need to leave the car?

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 16/09/2024 21:08

LostTheMarble · 16/09/2024 20:33

That now healthy children can’t sit in the back of his car with the windows open if he’s that paranoid in case he catches non existent germs? Hand sanitizer and antibac the car after if he’s really worried. Sounds like a slippery slope of excuses.

I know this sounds pedantic but hand sanitizer/ anti bac has no effect on the Norovirus .
Only posting to clear up a common misconception.

theeyeofdoe · 16/09/2024 21:07

LostTheMarble · 16/09/2024 20:38

For every 10 sessions (5 days) of unauthorised absence a child has, the parents are fined £80/£160(after 28 days unpaid). So the children would be at 2 each tomorrow, obviously if the op continues to be ill it could build quickly or add to any other instances. Schools can note unauthorised absence for anything, couldn’t get one of mine to school one day as the roads were pure ice, every single other school closed in the area. Was still an UA.

That’s not true. It’s 15 days. Search and read the official guidance.

Goldbar · 16/09/2024 21:06

Reluctantly I agree with him. You shouldn't be exposing a new baby to noro if it can be helped and chances are that they're not fully over it and may still be contagious. I'm surprised he's happy to have them after school.

That doesn't mean he's not generally a shit dad and a waste of oxygen, but I don't think he's being unreasonable on this occasion. The baby won't be tiny and vulnerable for very long, but they are at the moment.

Just tell school the kids are still under the weather and won't be in.

PinkFizz1 · 16/09/2024 21:05

Sorry OP but I agree with those saying he’s not being unreasonable. It is however totally unreasonable to expect him to expose his newborn baby to norovirus. There’s no way in hell I’d risk it if i was him or his girlfriend.

Itneverrainsinsocal · 16/09/2024 21:05

How can the school “insist”? Were the kids off school today? I think 48hrs should be strictly adhered to and an extra day or two beyond that is a bonus to ensure further protection for everyone. Im not sure why/how school are insisting, unless the kids have missed a lot of days already/last year? The teachers won’t thank you if it does end up spreading 🥴
I’d stay away if I was ex h too (sorry I am an emetophobe and I would really go out of my way to avoid this bug)
hope you recover quickly!

Zanatdy · 16/09/2024 21:03

Just tell the school you’re too sick to take that and their father has refused. It’s one day, it really doesn’t matter. My daughter’s attendance was less than 70% in year 9 due to illness and she walked out this year with all 9’s. One days absence is not going to affect their education, despite what the school might say.

KurtShirty · 16/09/2024 21:01

he is not being a wanker! Tell the school the situation and if necessary lie to avoid a fine because it would be unreasonable of them to fine you in this situation

nhs says - Stay off school or work until you have not been sick or had diarrhoea for at least 2 days. This is when you're most infectious.
Do not visit hospitals or care homes during this time.

note, this doesn’t mean they are not infectious after 2 days. No way would I allow someone who had just had Nora virus to be around a newborn .

get the school off your back, put some films on and take it easy with the kids for a day or two until you are well enough to take them yourself

Purpleturtle46 · 16/09/2024 21:00

The NHS guidance is 48 hrs after you have last been sick so they shouldn't have been back at school today anyway.

Pandasnacks · 16/09/2024 20:59

If the kids were still ill Saturday then they couldn't have gone back today anyway surely? He's probably worried about interacting with your home and things you've touched when you are still ill and contagious

MoonAndStarsAndSky · 16/09/2024 20:59

Sorry OP, noro is horrendous and I'm sorry you're having to cope with that alone and without support. I have to be honest and say in his position I wouldn't risk exposing a new baby to it either, I would want to wait until after you had all recovered.

See how you feel in the morning you'll probably be a lot better than now. If not and you can't take them then that's that.

AnneLovesGilbert · 16/09/2024 20:57

You might be feeling better in the morning.

He’s right, I wouldn’t try and start a war over it, he’s stated his case, he’s happy to have them tomorrow afternoon.

Opentooffers · 16/09/2024 20:57

Your DC's should not have been in today anyway as you need to be 48hrs symptom free. Just tell school it was Sunday their last symptoms, how are they to know? Unless you've blabbed about that already, in which case, a taxi or ask a friend.

OhmygodDont · 16/09/2024 20:57

Your thinking of you op. His thinking of a little defenceless newborn which let’s face it won’t exactly have the immune system of a 6 year old to fight noro.

Yes if you all lived together with a newborn you’d have to suck it up and baby might get it. One of the plus sides to this is he doesn’t have to risk a newborn getting it. Just as if the children where with him and you had a newborn you could say no. Bugs stay in one house.

Turbo4 · 16/09/2024 20:57

Sorry but with him having a new baby in the house I agree with him I wouldn’t want any contact with anyone who has had it until the whole house was clear of it.
im a single parent so know how hard it is having no help when unwell but School can not insist the kids go in tomorrow. If you are not actually being sick you can drive them and let them hop out when at school.