To be absolutely sick of excuses being made for men's disgusting sexual behaviour? Trigfer warning. Hugh Edwards sentencing.

The government could definitely make some prison space (8500+) by looking at prisoners who are there under Blunkets (scrapped) IPP rule.
IMO the sentencing laws are inadequate. CSA takes place for these images to exist. It should carry the same sentencing as the perpetrator in the photos (how often are they caught? How often are the children identified)
Sadly, at the moment, I feel those sentences can be woefully short too.
How do we get the government to overhaul the laws? I don't think becoming a magistrate is something many of us could do if we had the time. And magistrates don't make the law, they prescribe it.
If each woman on this thread sent a letter, saying the same thing, these laws are no longer fit for purpose, would the government listen?
If we march in our cities, will they listen then?
I feel so fucking angry with the whole inconsistency of sentencing.
In Scotland, a young MAN walked away from a jail sentence after he had raped a teenage girl.
The MAN who posed as a boy and blackmailed a young lassie into sending nudes has yet to be traced, despite the police having his name.
I'm really sick of NAMALT, that can stick itself up it's arse.

Women do commit crimes however everytime I turn the news on lately, the assaults, the rapes and the murders are being committed by men.

Exactly. Men murdering, men raping, men assaulting, men perpetuating wars.

But it happens on every single post where a man has committed a crime. Someone has to come on and point out that we can't be angry at men because men do it too.

But it never happens on a post about a woman who has committed a crime does it?

Even on the post about Gisele Pelicot being raped by 70 men, it was full of women wringing their hands and desperate to point out that women are just as bad.

We've got to stop minimising men's criminal activity by watering it down with "women do it too"

If your child was raped or assaulted by a man and you were angry, would it help someone saying "it's ok, women do it too"

Women do commit crimes however everytime I turn the news on lately, the assaults, the rapes and the murders are being committed by men.

Men really don't need you on their side, the world is designed for them

No castration, no hanging them, I say bring back the stocks in the town centre so we can throw rotten food and mock these sick fuckers. Probably won't shame them into stopping, but the people affected by the crimes might get something from it.

Another one saying thanks for your work.

*all ready shown

I have read the sentencing said but no not the full 21 pages of this thread

he was possibly in danger if he went to prison (as all sex offenders are when their crimes are against children) this happens if his mh is considered that concerning he would be put in a secure hospital which are less threatening

he isn’t a risk to the public particularly children according to the judge yet not long ago received a number of pictures of children being raped

let’s not forget his phone has never been recovered how convenient and why is this

the experts reports are their judgements from working with him for a relatively short period of time not all experts will agree the defence will use those that support his claims

He is now on the sex offenders register, reports to police occasionally, reports his whereabouts and has to register bank accounts its minimal of you think this prevents re offending you are very much mistaken

I work with these men day in day out we hear it all the time they trot out the same excuses he has received a lenient sentence the conditions are minimal

these crimes have to be taken more seriously and money should absolutely not buy you leniency especially

he will just be smarter next time he has steady shown he is good at covering his tracks

Thank you for your service. God knows I wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in that role.

I've read the sentencing report.

It would appear that he did not pay money to receive the images, in the sense of purchasing them, but sent money as a 'thank you' after being asked for some form of thanks.

He was initially sentenced to a 1 year custodial sentence which was reduced to 6 months due to the mitigating factors and time off for making a guilty plea at the first opportunity.

Regards castration and death, as the current law stands, that would be in breach of the Human Rights Act and probably not a good road to go down for our justice system. There would need to be a complete change of legislation for that to be permitted.

Previous pps have mentioned magistrates making this decision. Although referred to as the Chief Magistrate, it was a District Judge who sentenced Huw Edward's and not a 'volunteer'.

I worked as a probation officer for a long time, I don't any more.
So I can see why he got the sentence he did but likewise I don't believe the sentences in these cases matches the severity of the crime.

Rehabilitation is all well and good but we don't have the staff and resources to rehabilitate (never mind the question of whether it even works) and the punishment aspect has flown out the window. And I do believe that there has to be a punishment element to any sentence. It's important to acknowledge that someone has done "wrong" no matter how much mitigation there is.

I realised that for every one person I "might" have helped rehabilitate, there were 10 more waiting to take their place. That's the reality and it's a depressing one.

I got to the stage where I just didn't want to do it any more. Sit there with yet another man who'd beaten his partner, or sexually assaulted someone or harmed a child. To see them getting pitiful sentences and hear the same excuses over and over again. There's too many of them and the numbers grow by the day.

I don't know what we do about it. What we are doing isn't working.

What is almost as disgusting is that there was next to no press coverage and the ACC kept his job.

That's disgusting.

I once worked closely with a desk bound police sergeant in a non public facing role. I assumed it was because he'd suffered an injury on duty. Turns out the Assistant Chief Constable put him on desk duties as a result of him claiming 'mental health' issues following the breakdown of his marriage were responsible for him being caught up skirting young girls.

A few years later he was jailed for 20 years for sexual abuse and rape, having pretty much imprisoned his victim since she was 9. I shall never forget that as long as I live. And I will never not be angry that people like him walk among us, unchallenged - indeed often aided and abetted by other men in very senior positions.

The HE situation makes my skin crawl for this reason.

No one is acting like women don’t commit crimes like this.

This has already been covered in this thread! Read it.

of course he has hidden himself away in a private mental health hospital 🙄

all the better for him when it came to sentencing

IDK but think the Forensic Neuro-psychiatrist and magistrate are likely no fools and have undoubtedly been round the block a few times with patients faking/exaggerating symptoms/ prolonging hospital admissions - the ones I've met have been pretty smart and suitably sceptical

he is received the most lenient of sentences because this is what money pays for the best defence team

It's almost as tho' you haven't read any of the previous 21 pages discussing the sentencing guidelines 🙄

It’s an utter disgrace that he is no longer considered a risk or danger to children

You need to read the risk assessment in the sentencing report

Of course it bloody matters, I am discussed at the H.E sentencing. I’m just fed up of people acting like women never commit crimes like this. And when they do, the punishment is not enough.

https://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/news/hull-woman-sentenced-for-taking-indecent-images-of-a-child

lawandcrime.com/crime/woman-who-left-cellphone-at-pub-arrested-for-child-pornography-after-giving-bartender-passcode-to-prove-it-was-hers/amp/

of course he has hidden himself away in a private mental health hospital 🙄

all the better for him when it came to sentencing

he is received the most lenient of sentences because this is what money pays for the best defence team

It’s an utter disgrace that he is no longer considered a risk or danger to children

Don't all those things involve using an autocue? The neuro-psychiatrist is suggesting mild cognitive impairment which wouldn't effect his ability to read. Plus CT/MRI would show SVD as would the neuro-psychiatric assessment

Just think it's an interesting small piece of the jigsaw which does impair higher cognitive function like judgement in subtle ways - and hasn't really been reported in the MSM eg the Guardian said he has arteriosclerosis effecting his heart which often accompanies SVD but isn't the same thing

Can't see why it's bullshit really

I'm pretty sure the professionals concerned have greater capacity to diagnose svd than members of the public do. I also imagine that people who have had relatives with vascular disease / dementia recall not seeing the signs at the time and only recognising what was happening to their loved ones in retrospect.

He managed just fine on TV for long periods of time when big events happened like the Queens funeral so I really doubt this diagnosis and no I’m no psychiatrist just have zero bullshit radar.

They obviously felt it their duty to remind everyone that it doesn't matter what men do, because it's not just them, it's women too and it's important that we remember this so that the poor men don't shoulder all the blame

We blame everyone but the man who done the crime.

Your one contribution to this thread and this is all you can offer?

You do know you get female pedophiles, right?

What- rather than the likes of GB News?

It’s a tale as old as time. It’s perpetrated by men from all walks of life, in every country in the world. An Australian study found 1 in 6 men had sexual feelings towards children and 1 in 15 said they would have sexual contact with a child aged 14 or under if they thought they could get away with it https://www.humanrights.unsw.edu.au/sites/default/files/documents/Identifying%20and%20understanding%20child%20sexual%20offending%20behaviour%20and%20attitudes%20among%20Australian%20men.pdf

A cynical view but I don’t feel there is much to be done in terms of early psychosocial interventions. The vast majority of women who experience sexual abuse and traumatic upbringings don’t go on to sexually abuse children.