To be absolutely sick of excuses being made for men's disgusting sexual behaviour? Trigfer warning. Hugh Edwards sentencing.

If there was evidence that worked, I’d agree, but as a victim of a child abuser, I want to know that the crimes committed against me and others, that have a life long impact, are taken extremely seriously.

I hope you're prepared to pay more tax to finance an extensive prison building programme.

I personally would far rather the money spent on prisons went on early intervention and prevention schemes to stop this happening in the first place.

Some men are sexually attracted to children. This ‘attraction’ / urge can’t be ‘rehabilitated’. It’s who they are. It’s grim. If they’re proven to have acted upon this ‘sexual attraction’, they should be locked away. I’d suggest out of any prisoners, child sex abusers are the one of the most depraved (and there are lots of horrific crimes).

I remember listening to a paedophile talking about how he feels. He was disgusted with himself but said he couldn’t stop himself. Says it all.

I’d rather most females were released from prison (obv not all, some need to stay there), to make room for the out of control penises.

There are a huge amount of convicted sex offenders being effectively managed by the police and probation services every day.

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This. There's millions of these men

Exactly. Which is why it’s better they at least serve time in prison. Not only does it make society safer, it also sends a message that abuse against children is taken seriously, which victims will take a degree of comfort from.

Yup

That is men's attitude to children

Actual children

Don't get me started on the legal system

Begs belief

How tf has he got away with this. Im seething. If any good comes of this i hope those poor children in the pictures/videos are safe now. Its ludicrous that this is not taken seriously really. Id say, lets march but what good, what change would it do??

if theres no room in prisons, bloody build some more.

I'm leaving Mumsnet if anyone comes on here and defends men or says women are worse.

I'm so fucking angry and upset and disgusted by how men get fucking excused for every single shitty thing they do.

It's an absolute disgrace.
We are a family deeply affected by online sexual grooming and it hasn't been a six month recovery for any of us.
My sd life has been ruined and she's years and years and years of therapy ahead of her ( if she will engage as currently she doesn't and has gone no contact with us as she wants to carry on and we will do anything to stop her) it's left huge anxiety for us and the wider family and it's destroying my dh.
My dds are affected, her nan, her cousins have lost her

And for her. No life, she is isolated from peers and family, didn't pass her a levels, has no job, nothing lined up.

Six months is a mockery and may as well have not bothered charging him. I'm so angry

There are a huge amount of convicted sex offenders being effectively managed by the police and probation services every day. If someone wants to re-offend, they will, whether or not they are in custody. If they don’t want to, they won’t.

The problem is that there are still people making excuses for him. The fact that he has not been given a suspended sentence will be justification for some people to pretend he is some kind of victim and The Sun or someone else is the real villain.

I’m asking this kindly as someone who was abused as a child, please, please don’t call it porn. It’s child abuse, just because men wank over it, it doesn’t make it porn.

Instead of using his money to pay for porn he could have used it to pay for therapy. Most people would only be access help from the NHS. He had options and made a bad choice.

How do you figure that? If he’s in prison, he is cut off from children, making children safer. Seems like the perfect management to me.

Notwithstanding that, it’s possible to manage people’s behaviour without them being in prison.

Talking of ruined lives. What about the children in these images. I know a man who was sexually abused as a child. He still struggles a lot as an adult. The argument that someone has had a difficult childhood is never an acceptable excuse to become a child abuser as an adult btw. The man I know absolutely despises child abusers.

You can’t change a nonce, and prison isn’t just about intervention, it’s about punishment.

Absolutely not true. A suspended sentence IS a custodial sentence, with the first presumption being activation should there be any breach or further offence.

It’s got to the point where I find it difficult even reading about this and the other stream of appalling abuse of women and children by depraved men. It’s making me wonder if there is any good in this world.

YANBU. At all.

Funny how almost zero women with mean daddies, mental health issues and bad things happening turn to pedophilia to cope, isn't it?

Like you, I'm raging. Not just about HE but about the general permissiveness about men's despicable behaviours. I really am starting to hate men, which is sad because I'm married to one.

Because there will be more chance time wise of getting him on an appropriate course of intervention if he remains in the community. On top of that, if we imprisoned everyone doing this the prisons really would overflow within 24 hours.

I agree OP, I find it sickening. It seems everything in society comes second to mens dicks.

I've just read this, I'm shocked, how the fuck can people get away with the sickest thing you could possibly do?