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To be absolutely sick of excuses being made for men's disgusting sexual behaviour? Trigfer warning. Hugh Edwards sentencing.

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UCConfuseMe · 16/09/2024 13:13

Just read that Hugh Edwards ahs been given a suspended sentence.

And if course it's not his fault. He had a mean Daddy and some mental health issues and some bad things going on in his life, poor lamb.

All that made him say 'amazing' when sent photos of children as young as 7 being molested.

Having a rough time and a strict father doesn't make you a fucking paedophile!!!

Take responsibility for your predatory and vile behaviour!!

To be absolutely sick of excuses being made for men's disgusting sexual behaviour? Trigfer warning. Hugh Edwards sentencing.
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WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 16:18

Lovelyview · 16/09/2024 16:11

Smug, adjective. Having or showing an excessive pride in oneself or one's achievements. Is it an insult to describe someone as they are? Your posts are defending something that the vast number of people on here - 96% find indefensible. Given that the criminal justice system is clearly not tackling the problem of child sexual abuse in any way, shape or form I find it hard to understand why you think coming here to defend it shouldn't be subject to some fairly pithy comments. Also, this is AIBU. Clearly you are not familiar with the format. Feel free to report my comments if you feel they break community guidelines.

The thing is, I haven’t listed any of my achievements at any point. I mean, if you really want my CV I will happily send it over to you. Also, did you really find it necessary to provide a dictionary explanation to explain your post? I haven’t, not once, defended any sex offender let alone Huw Edwards. Finally, it really wasn’t necessary to point out that I am on AIBU. I can read. Why would I need to report any of your comments? Others on the thread have called me far worse, yet I don’t feel the need to report them as we are all adults here.

YellowphantGrey · 16/09/2024 16:17

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 15:24

You may not like it, but women DO commit these crimes as well. A post like this was always going to have that concept being introduced. For the second time, I haven’t defended Huw Edwards, and if you are going to persist in saying that, there really is no point talking to you.

What do you think saying women do it to brings to the discussion and why do you feel it needs saying?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/09/2024 16:16

StMarieforme · 16/09/2024 16:15

@AccidentallyWesAnderson there are at least 2, one of which states absolutely zero women, which as I have said, is extremely dangerous to think.

They both say 'almost'!

coxesorangepippin · 16/09/2024 16:16

Here we go

Oh women do it too

Yes they do

But nowhere near as much

AGirlInACountrySong · 16/09/2024 16:16

There are lots of historical convictions...rather than hunt them down and do what?

Prison in your 60's/70's and beyond rather than a comfy retirement. Just when they thought they had got away with it

It's worth considering if anyone feels they could

Missmarple87 · 16/09/2024 16:16

AGirlInACountrySong · 16/09/2024 16:12

It's not just female pardophiles

It's the female enablers too...sickening that they assist men.

You've mentioned this several times and not explained why? This may happen again occasionally but it is not an endemic - or even common - problem. Do you think it's some kind of gotcha because men commit 99% of sex crimes? Because it really isn't.

StMarieforme · 16/09/2024 16:15

@AccidentallyWesAnderson there are at least 2, one of which states absolutely zero women, which as I have said, is extremely dangerous to think.

coxesorangepippin · 16/09/2024 16:13

I often wondered this (especially after working in probation services with a lots of offenders on license) - how come there are not more incidences of retribution/revenge??

Because little boys (and girls of course) grow up and are bigger and stronger than their abuser... So why don't they hunt them down??

Haroldwilson · 16/09/2024 16:13

I came on not to say his sentence is reasonable, but to address people saying there could never be mitigating factors in this kind of case.

This twitter thread explains it all better than I can.

https://x.com/threadreaderapp/status/1835694441840951542

x.com

https://x.com/threadreaderapp/status/1835694441840951542

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/09/2024 16:12

StMarieforme · 16/09/2024 16:10

I agree his sentence is deplorable.

But all of you saying women never do it...

2,200 in 2019 convicted female paedophiles. Number has risen year on year.

There are 76 cities in the U.K.

That's about 30 per city.

Please don't be complacent when safeguarding children by assuming women are not paedophiles.

No one has said women never do it. The posts you have referred to say 'almost' thus acknowledging 'some'. The stats of female sex offenders compared to male sex offenders are minuscule. No one however has said women never do it.

Wish people would read posts properly before rushing to scream ‘women do it tooooooo’.

AGirlInACountrySong · 16/09/2024 16:12

StMarieforme · 16/09/2024 16:10

I agree his sentence is deplorable.

But all of you saying women never do it...

2,200 in 2019 convicted female paedophiles. Number has risen year on year.

There are 76 cities in the U.K.

That's about 30 per city.

Please don't be complacent when safeguarding children by assuming women are not paedophiles.

It's not just female pardophiles

It's the female enablers too...sickening that they assist men.

Xis · 16/09/2024 16:11

I want to March the streets. I want to do something. I want to protect out children.
What can we do??

Stop introducing them to paedophiles by allowing them to have unrestricted access to the internet, unsupervised, from an early age. Many parents are negligent when it comes to children’s internet use. It’s easy to look outwards. Not so easy to honestly self-reflect.

HermioneWeasley · 16/09/2024 16:11

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 16/09/2024 15:47

Errrm, some do though. Am pretty sure you would be rather shocked (as I was) if you seen the no. of females known to SS for csa.
Predominantly pathetic disgusting males though.

Yes, I said “almost none”

CSA is an overwhelmingly male crime

my point is that if poor mental health caused it, you’d expect women to be equally represented

Lovelyview · 16/09/2024 16:11

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 16:00

Once again, sorry if my posts irritate you, but that’s what happens when people make points that go against the accepted narrative on here. Interesting that I am not the one throwing insults about or being overly critical either. There are plenty of comments I don’t like on this thread, but I haven’t once felt the need to be rude, personal or derogatory, or question someone’s sex. Why don’t you have a think about that?

Smug, adjective. Having or showing an excessive pride in oneself or one's achievements. Is it an insult to describe someone as they are? Your posts are defending something that the vast number of people on here - 96% find indefensible. Given that the criminal justice system is clearly not tackling the problem of child sexual abuse in any way, shape or form I find it hard to understand why you think coming here to defend it shouldn't be subject to some fairly pithy comments. Also, this is AIBU. Clearly you are not familiar with the format. Feel free to report my comments if you feel they break community guidelines.

oneself meaning - Google Search

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Windchimesandsong · 16/09/2024 16:10

I'm probably going to have to leave this thread because it's just awful to see attempts at excusing abuse of children.

It's just so offensive to suggest if you've had an abusive or dysfunctional upbringing, you're less likely to know where those boundaries are.

Like I said I know a man who was sexually abused as a child. He would never do it another child. He despises those who do.

It's a horrible fact that lots of men and women are abused as children and do not become child abusers as adults. It's so offensive to them when child abuse is used by abusers or their apologists to "excuse" what they've done.

The same goes for mental health issues and substances issues. So many people sadly struggle with these problems (often as self medication after trauma) but are not paedophiles.

Obviously if a paedophile genuinely lacks mental capacity/has very serious mental health issues, then yes prison might not be appropriate - but a secure hospital would be.

StMarieforme · 16/09/2024 16:10

I agree his sentence is deplorable.

But all of you saying women never do it...

2,200 in 2019 convicted female paedophiles. Number has risen year on year.

There are 76 cities in the U.K.

That's about 30 per city.

Please don't be complacent when safeguarding children by assuming women are not paedophiles.

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 16:09

RainbowZebraWarrior · 16/09/2024 16:06

And every one of your 40+ comments over the past 12 pages has been predictably smug and patronising.

Good job that others take an alternate view then, and are prepared to voice it, as it gives some balance 😉

HermioneWeasley · 16/09/2024 16:09

StMarieforme · 16/09/2024 16:02

Be careful. That's just not true. A few do. We can't ever assume that a woman can't be a paedophile.

I said “almost none”

men are responsible for 98% of sexual violence

Efacsen · 16/09/2024 16:06

ilovesooty · 16/09/2024 16:05

Considering you've been accused of being a man and a nonce defender, you've been unfailingly polite.

Absolutely!

RainbowZebraWarrior · 16/09/2024 16:06

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 15:55

I’ m not surprised by any of the comments on here, this has gone down exactly as I expected it to.

And every one of your 40+ comments over the past 12 pages has been predictably smug and patronising.

StMarieforme · 16/09/2024 16:06

KStockHERO · 16/09/2024 13:28

YANBU. At all.

Funny how almost zero women with mean daddies, mental health issues and bad things happening turn to pedophilia to cope, isn't it?

Like you, I'm raging. Not just about HE but about the general permissiveness about men's despicable behaviours. I really am starting to hate men, which is sad because I'm married to one.

Simply not true and very dangerous as a statement.

ilovesooty · 16/09/2024 16:05

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 16:00

Once again, sorry if my posts irritate you, but that’s what happens when people make points that go against the accepted narrative on here. Interesting that I am not the one throwing insults about or being overly critical either. There are plenty of comments I don’t like on this thread, but I haven’t once felt the need to be rude, personal or derogatory, or question someone’s sex. Why don’t you have a think about that?

Considering you've been accused of being a man and a nonce defender, you've been unfailingly polite.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/09/2024 16:04

StMarieforme · 16/09/2024 16:02

Be careful. That's just not true. A few do. We can't ever assume that a woman can't be a paedophile.

FFS. Can people not read? The post says ‘almost’. Therefore acknowledging that SOME are. By comparison to males it’s minuscule but no one is saying that NONE are.

Missmarple87 · 16/09/2024 16:04

Haroldwilson · 16/09/2024 16:00

Say you give people who share child abuse images a default life sentence, no mitigating factors taken into account.

What do you then make the sentence for more severe crimes? Would you give the same sentence to someone downloading images and abusing a child in person?

Where did I say anything about life sentences? Pretty big leap from 6 months suspended.

And for the record, participation in any kind of CSA IS one of the worst crimes. Why do you think it isn't?

WinterMorn · 16/09/2024 16:03

Lovelyview · 16/09/2024 16:00

Smug

OK 🙂