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Franksnbeans · 16/09/2024 11:28

Just got back from a girls trip away. There were 12 of us so we rented a large house closest to the majority and the rest of us have travelled there. Long weekend away so 3 nights from Friday through to today. I’m actually just on my way home and currently on the train

The actual trip has been great - we’ve done loads of activities, meals out, drinking, quite the typical girls trip away. In fact I’ve loved being with them all.

We are all in our late 40s, in long term relationships with kids, some of us are married, so organising something like this is rare. In fact, because of our busy lives with kids and full time jobs, we’ve never done more than one night away together. We do however speak often and on average we all get together for lunch/dinner in various quantities of us, about every 2-3 months. We have all known each other for years varying through school, work, kids etc

I have however been really shocked at one my friends. We have all found out this morning that in the dead of night lastnight when we were all asleep, that she has sneaked a random bloke into the house that she had met on the first night out of the trip, when we had gone to the local pub. I can honestly say she had spoken to him face to face on that night for no more than 5 minutes. We didn’t know she had got his number. She had sex with him in the house and then he left.

She has told us about it quite matter of factly this morning when we were all packing up and cleaning and when we have asked why, she has confessed that her and her DP have an open relationship. And her DP had consented. So in that aspect I cannot hold what she has done against her. Each to their own on that one.

However my issue is that none of us knew him, none of us knew he was coming into the house, she had waited until we were all fast asleep and it had clearly been planned. I can’t help but feel really sick at the thought that we had an adult male stranger in the house whilst we were all fast asleep and totally vulnerable. I’m already really wary about sleeping anywhere alone other than at home and it’s just really thrown me. I keep running through ‘what ifs’ in my mind.

Am I being a bit precious about it? My DP is absolutely furious - at her obviously not me. And I’m also really not sure how I approach this with friend in future

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Abbylikeswine · 24/09/2024 11:21

You can't really control what another adult woman does.

Maybe you should have stayed in seperate hotels.

Well you know to stay in seperate hotels in future.

Rewis · 23/09/2024 19:26

She shouldn't have taken the guy to the house without you guys knowing. It is different from a houseshare where you live. But I do feel like this is an overreaction. Just tell her that next time not to do that and go to his instead.

MrsSunshine2b · 23/09/2024 19:21

What did you actually think was going to happen? She let him in for a purpose and then let him back out again once the purpose was fulfilled.

If he was a homicidal maniac, she could have given him a chaste kiss on the doorstep and it wouldn't have taken him much effort to push past her into the house.

DesigningWoman · 23/09/2024 18:29

Edingril · 23/09/2024 05:22

So in a share house with flatmates people have to book one night stands in first? Or preplan them and get a copy of their passport and inside leg measurement before bringing them home?

And DBS checked. And his arrival and departure announced with a blast of the fire alarm to allow sleepers in other rooms to lock their doors.

Honestly, OP, did you move straight from your parents’ house to your marital home or something? Have you never lived in a houseshare where you don’t get to veto other people’s ONS?

Libby1233455 · 23/09/2024 18:26

Franksnbeans · 16/09/2024 11:45

Obviously we all vary in our degrees of closeness and an open relationship isn’t something I’d imagine many people shout about. As it turns out, out of all of us, only one other of our group knew about them having an open relationship.

My point really is with it being that we weren’t aware of the situation or aware that this might have happened, it is unsettling to know that she found it ok to just invite a random person into the house for sex when everyone was asleep. I think really it’s something that should have been discussed or agreed to before it happened. And yes in this case, I probably would have locked my bedroom door rather than left it open

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What exactly do you and your DP think could have happened that’s made you so utterly furious? This bloke turned out to be a serial killer who killed all 12 of you in your sleep? I think this is very unlikely.

Personally I wouldn’t have had any issue with this at all. Good for your friend.

Toooldtopretend · 23/09/2024 11:17

I’m not sure what your husband is “furious” about??

Cocohj · 23/09/2024 08:00

Franksnbeans · 16/09/2024 14:32

Well all I’ll say is the vipers are out in force today.

Firstly let me make it clear that my days of house sharing and all the trials and tribulations of that are over. We are, or at least I thought, all a little bit more refined than that

DP is annoyed about it because it’s left me with a really odd feeling about the entire trip and about my friendship - it’s cost an absolute fortune for the weekend away and with this having been booked a while ago, we didn’t book our usual annual trip we take for DPs birthday - usually we will book a spa weekend away but I financially gave this trip priority. He just finds friends behaviour quite disrespectful under the circumstances but agrees that had she made it clear beforehand, at least it gives an opportunity for my other friends and I to say how we feel about it, and of course if anyone hadn’t been happy about her having a visitor of that nature then we could have suggested perhaps she met him in an alternative hotel room - after all what she chooses to do is fine, but it shouldn’t be impacting on anyone else

On a further note, I will add that it did happen that we were in bed slightly earlier lastnight after having a couple of already late nights, so we could be well rested for our journey back. But we hadn’t planned an early night - so with hindsight I’m wondering what her plan had been if we had stayed up as late as we had the other 2 nights, perhaps she would have had to march him straight past us.

DP has also since added that the open relationship explains this friends behaviour towards him - he has now revealed that at a number of occasions we have all attended together as couples, that friend has been particularly overly flirty with him but he has never told me because he didn’t want to impact on my friendship and I know he wouldn’t have engaged in flirting with her. I mean it’s a totally separate matter and I have no reason at all to doubt DPs loyalty to me, but it’s something for me to just be aware of in future.

How you’ve managed to turn your pal getting it on into a whole issue of you is maddening. Your friend got a shag. You didn’t know until she told you and somehow this is such a big issue where it’s disrespectful to you and has any form of relevance to your DHs birthday. You didn’t know until she told you, if she didn’t tell you, you’d be none the wiser. The whole entire thing sounds way deeper, and that actually you just don’t agree with her lifestyle. Was she meant to say “excuse me ladies, I’m just bringing this gentleman round for a quick sideways glance, shall we have a vote to see if that’s okay?” No. Telling you beforehand would have made it so weird!

it’s so snobby to say it’s not refined, or constantly mentioning how you’re all women in your 40s as if what she did is ludicrous for her age. And the fact that you clearly didn’t get the response you hoped for means “the vipers are out”

just because personally you didn’t like someone’s actions, doesn’t mean they were totally wrong. As you said, you’re all girls in your 40s, handle it like adult women. Quick message of “could you let me know next time? Felt a bit strange there was someone in the house x” was all you had to say, not make out like it’s ruined everything and create a whole scenario of what if or situations that didn’t even happen

Edingril · 23/09/2024 05:22

So in a share house with flatmates people have to book one night stands in first? Or preplan them and get a copy of their passport and inside leg measurement before bringing them home?

MamaAl27 · 23/09/2024 04:59

Also if you want to talk about safety, be happy that she had sex in a safe place rather than going back to someone’s house! I would much rather that, than wake up the next morning to see her room hadn’t been used and no one knew where she was!

MamaAl27 · 23/09/2024 04:56

I actually think this is an overreaction on both yours and your DP’s part.
I think now you are trying to throw extra ‘what ifs’ in the mix to make it stick and justify why you feel a bit ‘icky’ about the situation.
Unsure why your DP has now all of a sudden told you about the flirting?
A serious question, had this been a male friend and he brought back home a lady, would this even be a situation?
She was honest with you all in the morning and maybe didn’t tell you all anything about plans because it may have not been on her agenda and just went with the flow after meeting someone on an evening out!

GreatGardenstuff · 21/09/2024 21:07

When you live in a house share you obviously expect this sort of thing, it’s no big deal. On a rare weekend away with female friends at that life stage I wouldn’t be impressed at all. It’s just not in the spirit of the weekend to invite a random back to the place you’re sharing. The weekend is about the friend group, surely.

I wouldn’t be furious, but I’d not be happy and would say so if another weekend is planned, I’d want to know who was in the house overnight.

Segway16 · 20/09/2024 17:10

The fucking puritans on mumsnet 😂 “dubious morals”? She’s an adult in an open relationship, that is not “dubious morals”.

OP this is a massive over reaction. There was realistically not a safety concern and in any event nothing happened. It sounds like you have issues with the “dubious morality” of the situation and you’re using safety concerns as an excuse to be outraged.

timeforanewmoniker · 20/09/2024 13:20

gannett · 16/09/2024 12:00

I've lived in many houseshares over the years and this was par for the course. I couldn't even count the number of times various housemates brought people back for the night without a heads-up. I'd have thought it bizarre if they did tell everyone else beforehand tbh. When I brought people back it wouldn't have occurred to me to tell my housemates.

In a house share each bedroom has a lock on the bedroom door.

I highly doubt a house let out as a full airbnb does.

timeforanewmoniker · 20/09/2024 13:19

MrsB74 · 19/09/2024 21:06

This, being a bit creeped out by an open relationship I can understand. One man in a house with 12 women, not so much. What on earth did you think would happen?

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He could easily have gone into another room with another woman in there and raped or sexually assaulted her, or physically harmed her, or stolen from her. Don't know what about that is so hard to understand. Everyone else would be asleep and also not expecting someone else in the house.

CasaBianca · 20/09/2024 12:36

Get over yourself, honestly. There were 12 women in their 40s in the house, sleeping in their bedroom. One person had a male guest in the living area.
What exactly do you think could have happened?

nOasistickets · 20/09/2024 12:30

Ffs get over yourself OP 😂 - 12 of you vs 1 bloke who got in, shagged then got out without anyone realising?! And, what on earth does your husband got to do with this? He's furious?! Over what - the fact that he probably lapped up the flirting (nice drip feed btw) and now realises that hes not that special, and she prob flirts with loads of people? Sounds like hes trying to shit stir too... Honestly - this is such a non event - you're just judging her on what shes doing, which frankly nothing to do with you. Im inclined to also think, you all cant be that close a friend with her, considering none of you even knew about this?....

IamnotSethRogan · 20/09/2024 12:30

I don't think it's something that would bother me. I mean there's probably a lot of random men that have keys to the holiday let and could come in whenever they wanted. (Owners, tradesmen)

Also I don't think her bringing someone to a holiday home that she paid for where only adults are staying at all translates to she might being some random bloke back to someone elses home where their kids are sleeping. Bit of hyperbole there.

Doodleflips · 20/09/2024 12:22

I’d not be bothered by the open marriage bit at all, but I would be bothered about there being a strange man in the house.

Doodleflips · 20/09/2024 12:21

Neverstophoping · 16/09/2024 11:36

It's funny how he is an adult male stranger but you are all 40 year old "girls"?
If you all infantilise yourselves in this way why are you surprised that one of your number actually behaves like a teenager?

Whilst I can’t stand the use of ‘girls’ for women, it’s hardly the same, it’s a fairly common to use the term ‘girls trip’.

cockadoodledandy · 20/09/2024 11:35

It wouldn’t bother me to be honest, but then it wouldn’t happen either. My friends feel safe to tell me about their relationships and wouldn’t have to do it under cover of darkness.

This friend doesn’t feel safe to share this sort of thing with the majority of your group, OP. That’s quite a sad thought.

cockadoodledandy · 20/09/2024 11:32

Franksnbeans · 16/09/2024 11:45

Obviously we all vary in our degrees of closeness and an open relationship isn’t something I’d imagine many people shout about. As it turns out, out of all of us, only one other of our group knew about them having an open relationship.

My point really is with it being that we weren’t aware of the situation or aware that this might have happened, it is unsettling to know that she found it ok to just invite a random person into the house for sex when everyone was asleep. I think really it’s something that should have been discussed or agreed to before it happened. And yes in this case, I probably would have locked my bedroom door rather than left it open

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The fact that she didn’t tell you about the open relationship, and that you think it’s something people ‘shouldn’t shout about’ says everything. She hadn’t told you because she knew how you’d react (like there’s a problem with her relationship, or it’s not normal, that it’s something to keep quiet). That says much more about you than her.

There were 12 of you in the house, and it was a much safer choice than her going out of the house alone with no one any the wiser (see previous comment about her clearly not feeling comfortable to tell any of you), spending time with this man who knows where, putting herself significantly at risk.

If you’ve got teenagers, are you 100% sure they never sneak someone in when they come home from a club? Did you never live with friends at university, with one housemate or another having a random in their room regularly?

SunnySideUK77 · 20/09/2024 07:39

Frogmarch89 · 16/09/2024 13:04

So is it really a safety issue or you just don't approve of her behaviour?

I think maybe you and your husband being furious that a man happened to be in the house while you were there with 11 other adults is an overreaction and it's more likely you're just judging your friend for her behaviour. Which is fine by the way, you're entitled to your opinion but let's not pretend it's a safety thing.

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Marvelsquirrel · 20/09/2024 06:11

I would feel uncomfortable because it feels a bit sleazy. The type of man who is just there for the sex with a random he met in the pub is not someone I would want to bump into on my way to the toilet at night. More than likely he was a normal man who couldn’t believe his luck. But I get why you were upset.

Pherian · 20/09/2024 01:09

You’re not being precious. Your weekend wasn’t a shag holiday and this person used it as such.

The inner workings of her relationships is not your business but when it flies into your face and puts you at risk it is.

I don’t think I would invite her again.

SnowFrogJelly · 20/09/2024 00:50

Gwan.. get over yourselves!

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