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To stop dating this man for this?

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Actuallyaperson · 16/09/2024 10:14

Went on 7 really good dates with a guy. We had a really nice time and great chemistry.

Over the weekend was slept together for the first time and it was great. Admittedly, we did spend a lot of the weekend in bed, as two consenting grown-ups might do. I was definitely a very enthusiastic and consenting participant and had a good time.

The first text he sent me yesterday afternoon, however, was sex related. Not asking how my day was or what I was up to. No niceties. Just sex. We did chat about other stuff after that but it put me off.

I’ve just had another message from him this morning. No “good morning”, no formalities. Just talking about how he couldn’t wait to have sex with me again.

I was supposed to see him tonight for dinner but am short on time. We had talked about whether I might go to his place first, but I had made it clear it might not be possible.

When I reiterated today that it may just be dinner, he sent a list (A LIST!!!) of scheduling options so we could make the timing work to have sex before/after dinner.

I again reiterated that I really thought I’d only have time for dinner and he then proceeded to challenge me on why i couldn’t make the time, and why the suggestions in his “schedules” didn’t work.

Credit to him when I gave him another firm and pretty blunt “no”, he did apologise and said he was happy to wait for another time and just dinner would be lovely.

But now I really don’t want to see him for dinner either. It’s really put me off. I feel like I was a human being up to the point at which I slept with him, but now I’m just there for sex.

AIBU and over sensitive? Do I give him another chance?

OP posts:
LemonPeonies · 16/09/2024 16:24

GenAvocadoOnToast · 16/09/2024 16:00

It's almost as if... not everyone thinks exactly the same as you do?

Touché! Although you're way of thinking is in the minority amongst the general population

Olika · 16/09/2024 16:22

What I loved about my DH is that even after we had already slept together we kept going out for dinners, house parties, bars, restaurants, visit places etc and sex was just something that happened in the end of the night. For me this man being all about sex would be a massive turn off and I widnf see him again as I would feel bored.

JHound · 16/09/2024 16:14

samanthablues · 16/09/2024 12:05

I’ve had a few very long successful relationships that lasted many years were we slept together on the first date and I believe they too put me in the ‘wrong category’. I need to call them and let them know.

Jokes apart, a guy who thinks you’re not ‘relationship material’ yet HE is after sleeping together on a first date is a misogynist with more red flags than a Putin convention and needs to be avoided at all cost.

Edited

THIS!

SantaPellegrina · 16/09/2024 16:12

@Actuallyaperson So not only does he misread you completely but he doesn't have basic manners? You must be disappointed to find out now.
Challenging you as why you can't make it work is a little worrying.
At this stage, DO NOT explain anything anymore, if you tell him what to do he probably will. No, you need to see him 'in the wild' not teach him to play a better game.
Have dinner somewhere neutral. He sounds quite unconstructed so you'll know before pudding if he's worth your time or not and if not, no doubts, no regrets.

JHound · 16/09/2024 16:10

@DeCaray

LOL!

This makes women reasonable for a man’s behaviour. Men don’t put women in the “sex only” category because a woman has sex with them “too soon”.

They know from the start whether this is a woman that they would be interested in potentially long term or not. Waiting to have sex won’t change a man’s mind, but it can, happily, lead to them seeing themselves out.

ExtraOnions · 16/09/2024 16:07

…I dunno .. when I first had sex with my (now) husband of 20 years, all I could think about was when we would next have sex .. I talked about it with him all the time (early days of texting as well!), he liked that I was sexually very open, and was happy to talk about what I wanted. If it was a choice between eating, and sex, it would be the latter.
It was amazing sex, with someone I was falling in love with .. maybe I was a bit obsessed 😂😂

All these years on, still fancy him .. and tell him.. but these days, dinner would win !

JHound · 16/09/2024 16:06

This would probably completely put me off and I would decline to see him again - but that is because I was constantly meeting men just looking for (at least it seemed that way to me) for sex.

However it may just have been a long time for him and he had a great time in general including the sex.

I suggest you have a conversation and tell him that his behaviour is making you think he is only after sex which is not what you are after at all. You want more.

His reaction to that and how he behaves afterwards will tell you if he wants to try a serious relationship with you or just wants a sex partner and then you can act accordingly.

teatoast8 · 16/09/2024 16:05

DeCaray · 16/09/2024 10:46

Unfortunately whether you agree with it or not, 7 dates is not enough to know a person properly and sleeping together so soon makes a lot of men put the woman in the sex only compartment and dismisses them as being relationship material.

You can argue away about it but it happens all the time and there are many posts on here of it happening over and over.

I slept with my partner on the day I met him and we've lasted

RedheadedSoulStealer · 16/09/2024 16:03

Guarantee that if you marry him you will be back on here in 5 years saying that he sulks when you won't have sex with him and he coerces you into sex when you don't feel like it.

Yuck. He would give me SUCH an ick.

Subtle flirting is so much more attractive than a man acting like a sex obsessed teenage boy.

GenAvocadoOnToast · 16/09/2024 16:00

LemonPeonies · 16/09/2024 15:57

Well I work 12 hour shifts too on my feet all day and would still prioritise sex in a new dating relationship. So we'll have to agree to disagree.

It's almost as if... not everyone thinks exactly the same as you do?

GenAvocadoOnToast · 16/09/2024 15:59

LemonPeonies · 16/09/2024 14:53

It's not pressuring, it's completely normal to want sex with someone you're dating! I would be very confused if my date prioritised going out for dinner when there's many other things you could do to make time. If you don't wanna rip their clothes off at that point in dating then either you're not that interested in them as a person or not particularly interested in sex in general. I would find that incredibly boring so I did suggest she could find someone else who would prefer doing other things. I'm just saying it's gonna be hard to find 🤷‍♀️

It might be normal to want sex with someone you're dating, but it's not normal to try to pressure that person into sex when they've clearly said no - twice! It's also not normal to feel like you can't meet up with someone without it having to lead to sex, just because you've had sex previously.

LemonPeonies · 16/09/2024 15:57

Actuallyaperson · 16/09/2024 15:48

I’m sorry but I really don’t agree. I have a very high sex drive and I’m very attracted to him. But I’ll have worked a 12 hour day at the time I see him later, and only have a couple of hours free. So yes. Dinner is absolutely my priority. The only clothes I will want to rip off tonight are my own, to put my pyjamas on!

Well I work 12 hour shifts too on my feet all day and would still prioritise sex in a new dating relationship. So we'll have to agree to disagree.

Actuallyaperson · 16/09/2024 15:48

LemonPeonies · 16/09/2024 14:53

It's not pressuring, it's completely normal to want sex with someone you're dating! I would be very confused if my date prioritised going out for dinner when there's many other things you could do to make time. If you don't wanna rip their clothes off at that point in dating then either you're not that interested in them as a person or not particularly interested in sex in general. I would find that incredibly boring so I did suggest she could find someone else who would prefer doing other things. I'm just saying it's gonna be hard to find 🤷‍♀️

I’m sorry but I really don’t agree. I have a very high sex drive and I’m very attracted to him. But I’ll have worked a 12 hour day at the time I see him later, and only have a couple of hours free. So yes. Dinner is absolutely my priority. The only clothes I will want to rip off tonight are my own, to put my pyjamas on!

OP posts:
TillyKister · 16/09/2024 15:16

Anyone sending me a "list" would have been finished with.

SherbetSweeties · 16/09/2024 15:16

Yup that would give me the ick. I went on two dates with a guy I liked. On the second date he told me he could book a hotel room as it was the third date. I said no and he got really weerod. Ergh i hate dating

ohyesido · 16/09/2024 15:13

It’s almost as if he wants you to confirm that you’re definitely going to have sex before the evening goes ahead. He’s too eager to get at you and I would find that off putting.

LemonPeonies · 16/09/2024 14:58

samanthablues · 16/09/2024 14:55

I agree with you, but I also think “the ick” is a very visceral thing we ladies get (thank goodness for our intuition), it’s something that can’t be properly rationalised, it’s just an “ick”, a turn off, it’s the universe telling ‘something is not quite right’ with this guy, and you can’t really pin point why but it’s your gut feeling talking to you, listen.

Yeah, once you have the ick you can't get rid of it I don't think.

samanthablues · 16/09/2024 14:55

LemonPeonies · 16/09/2024 14:43

Also claiming there's something wrong with a woman who shows an interest in sex / has a healthy sex drive is just a different level of misogyny.

I agree with you, but I also think “the ick” is a very visceral thing we ladies get (thank goodness for our intuition), it’s something that can’t be properly rationalised, it’s just an “ick”, a turn off, it’s the universe telling ‘something is not quite right’ with this guy, and you can’t really pin point why but it’s your gut feeling talking to you, listen.

LemonPeonies · 16/09/2024 14:53

YellowphantGrey · 16/09/2024 14:49

1 night of saying no doesn't mean it's low on their priority.

For God's sake, stop making men pressuring women for sex as normal and acceptable!

It's not pressuring, it's completely normal to want sex with someone you're dating! I would be very confused if my date prioritised going out for dinner when there's many other things you could do to make time. If you don't wanna rip their clothes off at that point in dating then either you're not that interested in them as a person or not particularly interested in sex in general. I would find that incredibly boring so I did suggest she could find someone else who would prefer doing other things. I'm just saying it's gonna be hard to find 🤷‍♀️

Pipsquiggle · 16/09/2024 14:51

As he has shared a list and his schedule with you, I would absolutely make it clear your basic expectations in communication e.g. don't start with sex texts and how his previous communication made you feel.

Sounds like he deserves a chance to redeem himself as you've had multiple great dates and fantastic sex.

Good luck

YellowphantGrey · 16/09/2024 14:49

LemonPeonies · 16/09/2024 14:17

Oh and I agree there's more to a relationship but that's more long term, when you've been together a while. It's unlikely so many would have sex so low down on priorities in the first few months of dating.

1 night of saying no doesn't mean it's low on their priority.

For God's sake, stop making men pressuring women for sex as normal and acceptable!

LemonPeonies · 16/09/2024 14:49

Bellaboot · 16/09/2024 14:43

I'd probably say you're just not that into him. With the handful of men I've been in love with, in the early days of attraction, I couldn't wait to shag them again. Dinner would come second🤣🤣

Exactly

Bellaboot · 16/09/2024 14:43

I'd probably say you're just not that into him. With the handful of men I've been in love with, in the early days of attraction, I couldn't wait to shag them again. Dinner would come second🤣🤣

LemonPeonies · 16/09/2024 14:43

Also claiming there's something wrong with a woman who shows an interest in sex / has a healthy sex drive is just a different level of misogyny.

LemonPeonies · 16/09/2024 14:40

samanthablues · 16/09/2024 14:35

I never gave birth through my vagina (not that it matters but I’ll throw it there too as it seem to matter in this thread), usually when I start dating someone at the very beginning I’m more interested in having dinner with them and getting to know who is this stranger I’m about to embark in a relationship with than in shagging them. I need to make sure he’s not a serial killer and I’m not going to end up dead in a basement, it probably takes me 10 dates to figure that one out, call me thick.

No but you clearly have to be a woman in order to give birth was my point 🙄. They had already been on 7 dates it wasn't their first date. Its not unreasonable to be interested in sex with someone in that situation and I can't see anything wrong with suggesting making time for it when you're in the early, should be excited to see each other phase. Must be another mumsnet thing as I don't know any women in real life who would not be interested so early on.

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