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For not saying good night?

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safeatd · 15/09/2024 23:43

My boyfriend lives with a female room mate. Shes alright, we’re not friends though but will chat if we’re in the same room.

Tonight me and my boyfriend have been out, I’ve come in tired, gone straight to the bedroom and in to bed. He has gone in the living room to say hi to her and her friend.

Thye live in an apartment, the bathroom and his bedroom are the first rooms so I’ve not walked by or through a room and ignored them. But apparently my boyfriend is annoyed because I look rude and she’s also commented that I’m rude.

I

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safeatd · 18/09/2024 15:49

Timeforaglassofwine · 17/09/2024 06:53

I think just grow up. You asked for advice on whether entering someone's home without acknowledging them was rude. People said yes and you've answered with pedantic, over the top sarcasm. I wasn't rude, goading or sarcastic to you, so no, I don't you think to phone her to wish her goodnight.

I should call my landlady every night to say “good night” because I’ve entered her house and now acknowledged her.

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Icanttakethisanymore · 17/09/2024 16:05

Gosh, this has been quite a rollercoaster. FWIW Op I don’t think it’s rude not to say good night to OH’s housemates if you haven’t naturally encountered them en route to bed. I wouldn’t feel the need to seek someone out to say goodnight in your situation. Your initial responses seemed petty hostile tbh but sounds like you had some broader issues in the relationship. Glad you sorted it…

ElaineMBenes · 17/09/2024 08:10

You sound very dramatic and childish.

It would have taken 2 seconds to say hi/goodnight. It's just basic manners.

AffableApple · 17/09/2024 07:14

I have never lived with one of my best friends because I don't understand the need for all of this drama. If you're tired, come home without a word and go to bed, absolutely fine. On days/nights I'd be there catching up with her, she'd be flummoxed if housemates didn't go out of their way to come into a communal room where they could hear us talking to say hi/make polite chit-chat/say goodnight. It was so tedious! It was her house, so they probably knew that's what she wanted. From my POV it interrupted our evening. I would have hated to live like that. In this case as you don't live there, slightly different manners apply. All it would have taken would have been for your boyfriend to say: "Goodnight, safeatd has just gone to bed btw. She says goodnight, we're both shattered." She is more rude for saying you're rude tbh.

olympicsrock · 17/09/2024 07:01

I honestly don’t think OP did anything wrong.
Shw was the guest of the boyfriend not the flatmate.
It’s not like she ignored his parents or the person hosting her and bf would tell the flatmate she was there so no surprise.

As long as OP is polite and friendly when she sees flatmate that is fine

Timeforaglassofwine · 17/09/2024 06:53

safeatd · 17/09/2024 00:17

Me and my housemate have been laughing so much at these replies. Her and her boyfriend have come in my room twice now to tell me goodnight.

My ex has now left a teary voicemail on my phone asking for a second chance. I’m very content to just be snuggled in my own bed. Perhaps I should call my landlady and wish her goodnight? I am in her house.

I think just grow up. You asked for advice on whether entering someone's home without acknowledging them was rude. People said yes and you've answered with pedantic, over the top sarcasm. I wasn't rude, goading or sarcastic to you, so no, I don't you think to phone her to wish her goodnight.

DadJoke · 17/09/2024 00:36

@safeatd I’m glad you are coping.

safeatd · 17/09/2024 00:17

Timeforaglassofwine · 16/09/2024 23:26

Everything on this post sounds very dramatic. You are a guest in her home so you acknowledge her when you come in, you don't have to bow down, or knock on everyone's door, that's just silly. It sounds as though she might have been waiting for an excuse to create an issue.

Me and my housemate have been laughing so much at these replies. Her and her boyfriend have come in my room twice now to tell me goodnight.

My ex has now left a teary voicemail on my phone asking for a second chance. I’m very content to just be snuggled in my own bed. Perhaps I should call my landlady and wish her goodnight? I am in her house.

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Timeforaglassofwine · 16/09/2024 23:26

Everything on this post sounds very dramatic. You are a guest in her home so you acknowledge her when you come in, you don't have to bow down, or knock on everyone's door, that's just silly. It sounds as though she might have been waiting for an excuse to create an issue.

Hairspray123 · 16/09/2024 20:24

safeatd · 16/09/2024 20:21

Yes yes classic MN tropes of “you sound like hard work”, “you sound angry” etc

It’s no longer an issue and I won’t be staying over anymore.

Absolutely, if thats what you want to do thats your perogative. Just be careful to not chop your nose of to spite your face.

safeatd · 16/09/2024 20:21

Hairspray123 · 16/09/2024 19:57

I cant believe this tread is still going, OP you do sound like hard work. Perhaps the housemate recognises this trait and does find you particularly impolite and recognising this "Red Flag" in you. The Housemate may be a complete tool but if your partner is asking you to be kind to keep the peace for his sake then surely if you did actually care about him you would respect that.

Yes yes classic MN tropes of “you sound like hard work”, “you sound angry” etc

It’s no longer an issue and I won’t be staying over anymore.

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Hairspray123 · 16/09/2024 19:57

I cant believe this tread is still going, OP you do sound like hard work. Perhaps the housemate recognises this trait and does find you particularly impolite and recognising this "Red Flag" in you. The Housemate may be a complete tool but if your partner is asking you to be kind to keep the peace for his sake then surely if you did actually care about him you would respect that.

safeatd · 16/09/2024 16:32

SpiderGwen · 16/09/2024 16:22

Well she equally has a random man dossing in the house. Or does he not count?

He counts if he is staying over and is rude to her housemate (your boyfriend). But he has not been accused of being rude and you have.

So a house mate is an equivalent to an immediate family member

How he is related to her is irrelevant. She is at home; someone who isn’t part of her household is staying in her home; they owe her basic manners. Your own house mate’s guests owe the same to you.

I don’t know why you think only older people or home owners deserve courtesy.

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Yes that is what I’ve said - only older people deserve courtesy, I said that verbatim. And room mate and mum are interchangeable.

And yes we should spit on renters, because eww scum. Or maybe if you own or rent a house on your own where all expenses are being paid for by you then you have more of a right to know who’s physically in your house - as opposed to two adults living their separate lives under one room with equal shared financial responsibility for the property and each allows guests to stay.

And my boyfriend is also the father of the room mate and father in law to her boyfriend. And if he doesn’t wish dearest daddy in law goodnight then the father will tell room mate daughter that she must break up with him.

You’re definitely going to be one of those mother in laws … the son will be spending every Christmas with her family.

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SpiderGwen · 16/09/2024 16:22

Well she equally has a random man dossing in the house. Or does he not count?

He counts if he is staying over and is rude to her housemate (your boyfriend). But he has not been accused of being rude and you have.

So a house mate is an equivalent to an immediate family member

How he is related to her is irrelevant. She is at home; someone who isn’t part of her household is staying in her home; they owe her basic manners. Your own house mate’s guests owe the same to you.

I don’t know why you think only older people or home owners deserve courtesy.

safeatd · 16/09/2024 15:50

Hoppinggreen · 16/09/2024 15:38

Yeah, rude and your responses on here suggest its not an isolated incident.

Classic example of what the last page has been talking about.

It actually is an isolated incident. Because she definitely would have said. And I’ve clarified with them both as he’s added me to a new WhatsApp group for the three of us and her boyfriend:

Good Lord though, bring back flogging. Heaven forbid a tired woman goes to bed without checking in on pissed woman (equivalent of a mother) in the living room.

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Hoppinggreen · 16/09/2024 15:38

Yeah, rude and your responses on here suggest its not an isolated incident.

safeatd · 16/09/2024 15:35

SpiderGwen · 16/09/2024 15:10

I do. It’s his housemate. His housemate is deserving of as much respect in her home as I am in mine.

Her age and her rental or owning status don’t affect that.

Some random woman dossing in her home does owe her some basic manners. And OP’s boyfriend agrees - the OP was rude.

Dossing in her house 😂

Well she equally has a random man dossing in the house. Or does he not count?

Or is it just women dating that are “dossers” if they sleep at a patterns house?

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safeatd · 16/09/2024 15:30

armadillio · 16/09/2024 14:58

This is standard mentality of the pack mentality in MN. People pile on to an OP who is not rude and then goad her into answering back. And then when she does, everyone ignores that they piled on to her and accuse OP of being rude.

It really is a cesspit.

Exactly. Posters can say what they want, someone answers them back then wow run for cover.

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safeatd · 16/09/2024 15:29

CurlewKate · 16/09/2024 15:15

If someone tells me to "unclench" it usually confirms me in my feeling that I'm right! It's not "extremely rude"- it would just be better and more sociable to stick your head round the door and say "I'm off to bed-goodnight!"

Yes and you’re probably right.

But you expect people to ALWAYS be 100% polite and social in your every interaction with them? That if they did one thing you considered rude that you’d probably let it go … because people get tired, they have bad days, they get stressed. That the rudeness isn’t about you and they are purposely doing it.

Like I’ve said if I’d done a few rude or ungracious things that impacted her living space then I’d be happy for her to approach me ot my boyfriend over it. But one instance and I’m now rude is unfair.

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CurlewKate · 16/09/2024 15:28

@safeatd It always puzzles me when people
ask for opinions on something-despite the being absolutely sure they are right! It must be incredibly frustrating to discover that not everyone agrees with you!

safeatd · 16/09/2024 15:24

SpiderGwen · 16/09/2024 14:12

It’s exactly the same thing - person who lives there, their actual home, which is not your home. It doesn’t matter if it is a rental flat or a mortgaged house.

A parent and a house mate are owed the same level of basic manners.

If you are in her home, you pop your head around the door and say good night. You don’t slope off upstairs without a word.

You don’t have to “seek her out”, for goodness’s sake, she’s right there in the living room. You aren’t required to knock on doors looking for her. You aren’t supposed to disturb her in the bathroom or her bedroom. But if she is awake and in their shared living space, the bare minimum of manners would be to say good night.

Exactly the same thing 😂😂

So a house mate is an equivalent to an immediate family member….And two separate adults paying a landlord is the same as a child/young adult living in a parents house …

I also didn’t “slope upstairs” because it’s a flat … and that would mean I’d gone into a strangers home and I’d have probably had to wish upstairs stranger a good night too

In fact I’ve text my house mate and told her that her boyfriend needs to respect my space and he’s not allowed to go to bed until he’s wished me a good night proving I’m in certain areas of the house.

Kitchen, living room, garden spare bedroom/office is the “good night zones” and if I’m in my bedroom or a bathroom it’s the “no good night zones”

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CurlewKate · 16/09/2024 15:15

If someone tells me to "unclench" it usually confirms me in my feeling that I'm right! It's not "extremely rude"- it would just be better and more sociable to stick your head round the door and say "I'm off to bed-goodnight!"

SpiderGwen · 16/09/2024 15:10

armadillio · 16/09/2024 14:52

Spider, you do get that the housemate isn’t OP’s boyfriend’s mother right?

I do. It’s his housemate. His housemate is deserving of as much respect in her home as I am in mine.

Her age and her rental or owning status don’t affect that.

Some random woman dossing in her home does owe her some basic manners. And OP’s boyfriend agrees - the OP was rude.

armadillio · 16/09/2024 14:58

nocoolnamesleft · 16/09/2024 13:17

I was initially on the fence about whether your behaviour was rude or not, but now that I can see that you have been rude multiple times on this thread it seems quite likely that you tend to be rude in person.

This is standard mentality of the pack mentality in MN. People pile on to an OP who is not rude and then goad her into answering back. And then when she does, everyone ignores that they piled on to her and accuse OP of being rude.

It really is a cesspit.

armadillio · 16/09/2024 14:56

doodleschnoodle · 16/09/2024 12:52

'Hello, I've come to say goodbye. Goodbye.'

Can't imagine anyone caring about their flatmate's partner saying goodnight to them after a late night out, but apparently people do. So there we go.

If some people unclenched a little and stopped going through life looking to be offended by things or find things to complain about, they'd probably be a bit happier.

It’s ridiculous isn’t it?