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to believe Lady Starmer should pay for her own clothes and personal stylists?

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LargeDeviation · 15/09/2024 11:11

https://news.sky.com/story/starmer-faces-investigation-over-possible-breach-of-parliamentary-rules-after-labour-donor-pays-for-wifes-clothes-13215216

And Keir Starmer should have paid himself for his 'several pairs of glasses' and £19K worth of work clothes? On top of that there was £20K for accommodation for Sir Keir and another 'similar sum' on 'private office' costs.

Purely by coincidence, it seems the donor was given a Downing Street security pass allowing easy access to the corridors of power without any role in government.

And yes, Carrie and Boris Johnson should have paid for their wallpaper and hampers too, that is just as sleazy.

Sir Keir Starmer faces investigation over possible breach of parliamentary rules after Labour donor 'pays for wife's clothes'

A Labour peer paid for a personal shopper, clothes and alterations for Lady Starmer, both before and after the Labour leader became prime minister in July, according to The Sunday Times. But Labour said they have contacted authorities over the matter.

https://news.sky.com/story/starmer-faces-investigation-over-possible-breach-of-parliamentary-rules-after-labour-donor-pays-for-wifes-clothes-13215216

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EasternStandard · 19/09/2024 07:52

Gilmour15 · 18/09/2024 22:32

Good publicity for British Fashion week and great for the designer. The dresses she wore election week sold out in days.

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Not good for Starmer or Labour

Buildingthefuture · 19/09/2024 07:06

@2k2j i don’t even think it’s about what KS is allowed to accept, it’s about what he should accept. There are no restrictions on what I can accept (I own the business) but what do I accept? Nothing. Anything that is given (hospitality tickets, hampers, wine at Xmas etc) is divid up between the staff, not because I HAVE to, but because it’s the right thing to do. If I can do that, I don’t see why KS (who is a fuck ton richer than me!) can’t?

Clavinova · 18/09/2024 23:24

RosePoppyClover · 16/09/2024 22:59

No, you are wrong. People have not been jailed for posting about their opinions about the level of immigration from Muslim countries. They have been jailed for calling for riots and murder. Reports are easily accessible on the internet about what those who got jail sentences for incitement said. 'Blow the mosque up with the adults in it'; 'Riot in Huddersfield. Meet at the train station at 1pm. It's not going to be peaceful'; 'Every man his dog should be smashing f--- out of the hotel'; 'Set fire to all the f-king hotels full of the b*stards.' These are calls for violence.

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To be fair to the poster you were replying to, not all of the reports fit your description either:

https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/24513379.sellafield-worker-jailed-sharing-offensive-facebook-posts/
https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/24506682.maryport-man-jailed-facebook-post-police-bid-stop-disorder/

Babadookinthewardrobe · 18/09/2024 22:50

Gilmour15 · 18/09/2024 22:40

He got a pass for a few weeks. He's been a Labour peer for years attending the Lords and vetted.

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And yet he was still given preferential treatment above all other peers in the same position and unprecedented access to our highest security government premises. I wonder how that might have happened 🤔

Babadookinthewardrobe · 18/09/2024 22:47

Exactly @2k2j - anyone in law or financial services knows these rules, we’re drilled in it continually. KS knows the rules backward and still he broke them. It’s not credible that it was accidental. It really is one rule for them and one rule for everybody else. So dishonest, I am bitterly regretting voting for them.

2k2j · 18/09/2024 22:40

Rummly · 15/09/2024 11:19

I’m no fan of Labour. But this is a nothing story. Accepting the gift is a nothing story and the later declaration of it is a nothing story.

There are genuinely serious criticisms to make of this dishonest, hypocritical government. But the money for Victoria Starmer’s dresses isn’t one of them.

When you consider what other people are allowed to accept (eg those in financial services), the behaviour of politicians is way out of line.

My DH is allowed to accept a meal if work is being discussed at the meal. That's it.

MPs shouldn't accept anything. They represent the electorate, not some person/business who's giving them freebies.

The behaviour of previous PMs is irrelevant. They were all wrong to accept stuff and they are not the standard for Starmer to measure himself against. He needs to measure himself against the comparable standards of today in other professions. And by that standard, he has behaved atrociously.

Gilmour15 · 18/09/2024 22:40

Babadookinthewardrobe · 18/09/2024 22:35

Who has been given inappropriate access rights above and beyond his contemporaries and entitlement as a result of his “donations” @Gilmour15. Like I said, dodgy AF.

He got a pass for a few weeks. He's been a Labour peer for years attending the Lords and vetted.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 18/09/2024 22:38

Or at least it appears to be…. I am sure we are all awaiting KS to share evidence to the contrary, should be easy enough. We’ll wait.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 18/09/2024 22:35

Who has been given inappropriate access rights above and beyond his contemporaries and entitlement as a result of his “donations” @Gilmour15. Like I said, dodgy AF.

Gilmour15 · 18/09/2024 22:33

Babadookinthewardrobe · 18/09/2024 22:14

Access to number 10 premises by Lord Alli @BIossomtoes. Which is dodgy AF. Security protocols be damned.

He is a Labour Peer with the Labour whip for decades.

Gilmour15 · 18/09/2024 22:32

Babadookinthewardrobe · 18/09/2024 22:08

So would I if I had no scruples about accepting goods for favours @Gilmour15, but I have more integrity.

Good publicity for British Fashion week and great for the designer. The dresses she wore election week sold out in days.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 18/09/2024 22:16

Unless you are suggesting that access to our highest security government premises should be available for purchase for the price of some specs and a couple of spivvy suits @BIossomtoes which appears to be what has happened here.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 18/09/2024 22:14

Access to number 10 premises by Lord Alli @BIossomtoes. Which is dodgy AF. Security protocols be damned.

BIossomtoes · 18/09/2024 22:09

Babadookinthewardrobe · 18/09/2024 22:08

So would I if I had no scruples about accepting goods for favours @Gilmour15, but I have more integrity.

What favours do you think the lender of that outfit will get apart from a bigger order book?

Babadookinthewardrobe · 18/09/2024 22:08

So would I if I had no scruples about accepting goods for favours @Gilmour15, but I have more integrity.

Gilmour15 · 18/09/2024 19:20

Rummly · 18/09/2024 08:45

Not yet. But there are a lot of dots to connect with the freebie wardrobe…

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I do like the outfit though. She looks good.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 18/09/2024 12:02

Boringcatchronicles · 18/09/2024 08:42

Is there? Between whom

It's widely reported that McSweeney and Gray are in a power struggle over the boundries of their respective remits, and that Rayner and Starmer have a fractious relationship. Though, we are only 12 weeks so take with a pinch of salt I think. But, not all is sweetness and light for sure

PandoraSox · 18/09/2024 10:21

Rummly · 18/09/2024 10:20

Jas Athwal.

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Haha. Very droll.

Rummly · 18/09/2024 10:20

PandoraSox · 18/09/2024 10:18

It is a bit early for a leadership challenge? Who do you think might challenge him?

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Jas Athwal.

PandoraSox · 18/09/2024 10:18

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 18/09/2024 08:39

It seems there is a power struggle in the Labour Party.

It's worrying, because Starmer is more moderate and if he loses then it won't be pretty.

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It is a bit early for a leadership challenge? Who do you think might challenge him?

Rummly · 18/09/2024 10:08

BIossomtoes · 18/09/2024 10:06

I understood the outfit in that picture was a loan - a route several PM’s wives have gone down. A loan doesn’t seem particularly questionable.

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Yes.

It was a topical joke.

BIossomtoes · 18/09/2024 10:06

Rummly · 18/09/2024 08:45

Not yet. But there are a lot of dots to connect with the freebie wardrobe…

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I understood the outfit in that picture was a loan - a route several PM’s wives have gone down. A loan doesn’t seem particularly questionable.

Rummly · 18/09/2024 08:45

Boringcatchronicles · 18/09/2024 08:36

The important question is why? Anyone connected the dots yet?

Not yet. But there are a lot of dots to connect with the freebie wardrobe…

to believe Lady Starmer should pay for her own clothes and personal stylists?
Boringcatchronicles · 18/09/2024 08:42

Is there? Between whom

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 18/09/2024 08:39

Boringcatchronicles · 18/09/2024 08:36

The important question is why? Anyone connected the dots yet?

It seems there is a power struggle in the Labour Party.

It's worrying, because Starmer is more moderate and if he loses then it won't be pretty.