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Grooming gang jailed for a combined 106 years

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mrshoho · 15/09/2024 09:16

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyly0rdyz0o

Glad to see justice finally. These crimes go back to 2003-2008. But what protections are in place now to prevent the same abuse? The victims here were in the care system and so badly let down. Where were the adults who were responsible for these children some as young as 11?

From top left: Abid Saddiq, Mohammed Amar, Mohammed Siyab, Mohammed Zameer Sadiq, Ramin Bari, Tahir Yassin and Yasser Ajaibe

Operation Stovewood: Seven jailed for child abuse in Rotherham

The case is part of the Operation Stovewood inquiry into child abuse in Rotherham.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyly0rdyz0o

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Diagonalsleeper · 15/09/2024 17:14

mrshoho · 15/09/2024 16:55

Why are some of these disgusting creeps being released this year? Is it because they've served their sentence or early release.

Some only got 2-3 years.

Thecrsggle · 15/09/2024 17:11

@Tattletwat, I have lived in Rotherham over 40 years, and there is no way in hell I would go into the town centre now.
There is such an air of menace, I just don't feel safe.

JoyousPinkPeer · 15/09/2024 17:10

The sentences are not enough. 6 years ... for God's sake!!!
They should be under licence forever a d their bollocks chopped off prior to release.
They will be fully itegrated back into their Pakistani community when released, as if nothing happened.

rainsofcastamere · 15/09/2024 16:57

I'm from Rotherham, now live in Barnsley.

This is still ongoing. There are areas in Rotherham that the police won't touch.

SYP, the fucking useless Labour council and Social Services will allow this to continue as opposed to upsetting the supposed 'cohesion'.

There are people on this thread who clearly haven't read the Jay Report. You should, it's enlightening.

mrshoho · 15/09/2024 16:55

Diagonalsleeper · 15/09/2024 16:40

Some of these will be out late this year/early next year and they were only sentenced last year.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/faces-behind-biggest-ever-child-26638671

Why are some of these disgusting creeps being released this year? Is it because they've served their sentence or early release.

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poppyzbrite4 · 15/09/2024 16:45

Diagonalsleeper · 15/09/2024 16:40

Some of these will be out late this year/early next year and they were only sentenced last year.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/faces-behind-biggest-ever-child-26638671

I cannot believe the amount of women there are in that gang.

Goldenretrieversball · 15/09/2024 16:44

mrshoho · 15/09/2024 09:59

Scum of the earth these men are.

I find it hard to understand how it was allowed to go on in plain sight and for so long. Adult men picking up children from their homes?

This was going on in my home town in the early noughties when I was a child sexual exploitation detective. We used to serve the males with abduction notices and subsequently arrest them if they continued having contact with the child. It’s a really useful piece of legislation. It’s extremely difficult to deal with because the children don’t see themselves as victims are usually very uncooperative.

Genevieva · 15/09/2024 16:23

These sentences are never long enough for the harm they have caused. Plus, they will be let out early. They should get life tariffs.

tanstaafl · 15/09/2024 16:22

They’re rape gangs, not grooming gangs.

Getonwitit · 15/09/2024 16:16

This is still going on and still our authorities allow it because they are too scared to intervene because they fear being called racist. What a mess this country is in when people are scared to stop Muslim men raping children on an industrial scale.

Portakalkedi · 15/09/2024 16:07

Forgot to add, personally I think much harsher punishment is warranted for such crimes, as with the Pelicot case. Castration?

Portakalkedi · 15/09/2024 16:06

Finally some justice, although no doubt given our feeble system these scumbags will be out again soon. I didn't think the police would dare to actually arrest and charge them as they are non-white, fearing accusations of racism and all that bollocks.

Hugglethatmuggle · 15/09/2024 16:05

Still happening in Rotherham.

poppyzbrite4 · 15/09/2024 16:01

Ponoka7 · 15/09/2024 15:59

When it was reported that asylum seekers were hanging around our local high school trying to pick up the girls, the police ignored, then denied. It took the girls to film what was going on. The police still denied it and said that it was a different location. There were incidents in local parks and shopping areas. That was what sparked the trouble at the Knowsley suites. Eventually we were told that there were arrests, but no charges. We live in quite a rough area were the lads would challenge grown men. That's what protected the girls.

Disgraceful it's still going on. Can you get your MP involved?

Ponoka7 · 15/09/2024 15:59

poppyzbrite4 · 15/09/2024 15:43

So what you're saying is, if a 12 year old went to the police and told them she had been drugged and gang raped, they'd tell her not to be racist?

When it was reported that asylum seekers were hanging around our local high school trying to pick up the girls, the police ignored, then denied. It took the girls to film what was going on. The police still denied it and said that it was a different location. There were incidents in local parks and shopping areas. That was what sparked the trouble at the Knowsley suites. Eventually we were told that there were arrests, but no charges. We live in quite a rough area were the lads would challenge grown men. That's what protected the girls.

Meadowfinch · 15/09/2024 15:54

FadedRed · 15/09/2024 12:45

Agree, and even in prison they will be with other like-minded offenders.

Maybe not. They are nothing but dirty disgusting pigs.

Hopefully the general prison population will treat them to a little of their own medicine.

poppyzbrite4 · 15/09/2024 15:50

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 15/09/2024 15:46

This is one reason why me and friends I know won’t go to the police due to no trust in them now and my best friend lived with a(not anymore he’s her ex) police training officer who took files of members of the public home, he’s now fired, not sure exactly the reason but you can kind of guess. Some of them (police) are very clever people and think they’re above the law. My parents and prob DB’s in-laws and maybe DB would get police involved but I would not.

The police response to those girls is enraging. They were powerless, working class girls with no one to protect them and the police told them they were prostitutes or had chosen the lifestyle.

I'm sorry if you've experienced something similar and can understand your distrust.

TheRavenSaid · 15/09/2024 15:49

THIS IS NOT ENOUGH!

Amar, of Elizabeth Way, Rotherham, was found guilty of two counts of indecent assault on a girl aged 11 and sentenced to 14 years in prison, plus two years on licence. He was found not guilty of one count of indecent assault.

Ajaibe, of Walter Street, Rotherham, was found guilty of indecent assault of a girl aged 11 and jailed for six years, with one year to be served on licence.

Sadiq, of Richard Road, Rotherham, was found guilty of unlawful sexual intercourse with a girl under the age of 13 and rape. He was jailed for 15 years and given one year on licence.

Siyab, of Stevenson Drive, Rotherham, was found guilty of unlawful sexual intercourse with a girl aged under 13 and two counts of rape. He was also found guilty of trafficking within the UK for sexual exploitation. He was jailed for a total of 24 years with one year to be served on extended licence.

Saddiq, formerly of Rotherham, was found guilty of indecent assault of a girl aged 12, rape of a girl under the age of 13 and two further counts of rape. He was jailed for a total of 24 years with one year to be served on extended licence.

Yasin, of Burngreave Street, Sheffield, was found guilty of eight counts of rape and jailed for 13 years.

Bari, of Batemoor Road, Sheffield, was found guilty of four counts of rape and jailed for nine years.

TheRavenSaid · 15/09/2024 15:47

MrsSkylerWhite · 15/09/2024 12:40

Big headline figure but between 7, not so long considering what they did. Will they be out early with “good behaviour”?

I’m very glad that their heinous behaviour will be very much frowned upon by fellow inmates. Perhaps they’ll understand how it feels to be fearful every day. Good.

Agree completely

If they had 106 years each, then that'd be fine by me

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 15/09/2024 15:46

poppyzbrite4 · 15/09/2024 13:53

Don't forget what the police said, the girls being drugged, raped and blackmailed had made a lifestyle choice.

This is one reason why me and friends I know won’t go to the police due to no trust in them now and my best friend lived with a(not anymore he’s her ex) police training officer who took files of members of the public home, he’s now fired, not sure exactly the reason but you can kind of guess. Some of them (police) are very clever people and think they’re above the law. My parents and prob DB’s in-laws and maybe DB would get police involved but I would not.

poppyzbrite4 · 15/09/2024 15:43

Tattletwat · 15/09/2024 15:40

Absolutely, in south Yorkshire in general there are no go areas in Sheffield Doncaster and Barnsley as well as Rotherham, it isn't a myth, i socialise with people from council who are miliant union people who abhor racism and they even speak about it.

The area hasn't changed despite what people tell you it's still exactly same as it was.

Same as anything else safeguarding and whistleblowing is pointless if you are made out to be the racist one.

Whilst yes many white people are paedophiles, that's always going to be a fact in a predominantly white country. The number of people of certain demographics committing these crimes is higher.

It isn't even the Muslim community who are the problem, it's certain people from a certain section of the community who are the majority problem in rotherham.

I can't name that community as Mumsnet will ban me as they are part of problem.

So what you're saying is, if a 12 year old went to the police and told them she had been drugged and gang raped, they'd tell her not to be racist?

Tattletwat · 15/09/2024 15:41

offyoujollywelltrot · 15/09/2024 14:17

Christ if I had a brain that worked

I do not know why I got those mixed up, thank you for the correction.

Not a problem it seems sickos like similar sounding times so easily confused.

Tattletwat · 15/09/2024 15:40

mrshoho · 15/09/2024 14:49

I'm not doubting you but could you say a bit more of what it is that is happening in this area. We are told by our leaders that 'no go' areas are a myth but unless we tackle it and there is more honesty from the police and other authorities nothing will change.

One of the most damning aspects seems to be the attitude of the authorities that the girls were not viewed as victims for a very long time. Their lives were not valued. It's terrible. I sit through yearly Safeguarding training and there is no excuse for anyone to ever turn a blind eye.

Absolutely, in south Yorkshire in general there are no go areas in Sheffield Doncaster and Barnsley as well as Rotherham, it isn't a myth, i socialise with people from council who are miliant union people who abhor racism and they even speak about it.

The area hasn't changed despite what people tell you it's still exactly same as it was.

Same as anything else safeguarding and whistleblowing is pointless if you are made out to be the racist one.

Whilst yes many white people are paedophiles, that's always going to be a fact in a predominantly white country. The number of people of certain demographics committing these crimes is higher.

It isn't even the Muslim community who are the problem, it's certain people from a certain section of the community who are the majority problem in rotherham.

I can't name that community as Mumsnet will ban me as they are part of problem.

mrshoho · 15/09/2024 15:30

I'm so sorry @yankpan . Nothing you did could excuse your abuser. Shame on those adults who put the blame on you and did not protect you. 🫶xx

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