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Husband reactions in front of the kids

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FoxesSox · 15/09/2024 07:54

Bear with me…

My Husband swears a lot, we have an ongoing debate about it because it makes me so unhappy he constantly does this in front of the kids. We have a 6 month old baby and a 2 year old. The 2 year old is like a parrot, her language is amazing and she repeats everything back. Husband swears constantly in front of her. He is very uptight and reacts to everything, eg, a spec of ketchup on his top, a drop of a water on the floor, stubbing his toe, dropping something etc gets a “FK SAKE! SHT… Blcks” etc. Which is all the time. Often multiple times in a few minutes. he scraped his ankle last week and shouted “Fck a Cnt”. When I remind him please don’t swear in front of the kids he snaps and aggressively says things like “well I just cracked the fucking vase in the dishwasher etc” and explains why he swore. (Obviously there is always a reason and I’m not saying he is just shouting for no reason).

For context, we’ve had marriage problems lately and are in counselling and I have only just come home with the kids after staying at my parents house for 2 months because of the behaviour in front of the kids, arguing, and stress, mostly due to a work issue he has had which takes over every part of his life and no space for anything else (he’s been pushed out of his job and not been at work despite being paid still - no immediate financial worries). He made an effort for a few days but it seems to have gone straight back to how it was before.

Anyway, yesterday we had friends over they were late leaving and we were late putting the kids to bed. The bath was stressful as he kept walking to have a go at me for putting the blackout blind back up in the toddler room and that I would further damage the roller blind etc leaving the baby and Toddler in the bath (could still see them but not in grabbing distance). I said not to leave the kids to drown and he did go back but continued to shout at me through the bathroom door.

Bath ended and we did nappies and Pjamas etc and I left him to give toddler her milk and went up to the loft room to feed baby. A few minutes later he was screaming my name and swearing from the floor below “she’s being f*king sick! Projectile fking vomming! Get here now now! Where the fck are you”. I immediately unlatched baby and came downstairs with him, he’s just started crawling and can’t be left alone. Toddler sat in bed covered in sick and all over carpet. He continues “I needed you to get here fucking quicker” (it must have taken less than 25 seconds from shouting to me being stood there). My daughter starts crying. It makes me SO sad. All she needed was a cuddle, take her clothes off and put her back in the bath and kindness. Him shouting at me made her think she had done something wrong and caused a problem and she was crying at that, not because she had been sick. He started madly getting carpet cleaner and stuff and I said we needed to put the kids to bed first.

He says “I have always sworn, and you knew who I was before you married me. Swearing is an auto response and I can’t help it”. I say, he did lots of things before we were married, I wouldn’t expect him to do these things in front of our young children. He is very snobby (private school etc, often looks down on people and calls people “pikeys”). But surely swearing in front of your kids is rough and why doesn’t he care our daughter will pick this up and swear at nursery etc.

I guess my question is:

YANBU: This is unacceptable, he needs to stop swearing and reacting in front of the kids and if he doesn’t this will cause lasting damage and make daughter really insecure.

YABU: Everyone swears, it’s no big deal. He can’t help himself in stressful situations and give him a break.

OP posts:
nOasistickets · 16/09/2024 00:06

Your poor poor children. Don’t do this to them - don’t make them grow up with someone like this. You’re their mother - protect them. The way you try and make excuses for him is gross - he is damaging your children- do you want your daughter to think this is OK?

Orangepolentacake · 15/09/2024 23:51

FoxesSox · 15/09/2024 14:09

I don’t think he is close to lashing out. Before I left when he was having the breakdown type thing he did raised his arm, balled fist etc and stepped towards me, threw my suitcase across the room but I still genuinely didn’t believe he would ever do that. He’s never hit anyone / been hit in his life. Again, posh boy. He would probably miss to be honest.

why are you minimising his aggressive behaviour towards you?

NotNowGertrude · 15/09/2024 18:54

You left due to his swearing & aggression

Now you're back & he's still swearing & aggressive

Surely you leave again ASAP

EmeraldDreams73 · 15/09/2024 17:46

This is a toxic environment for you and the children. Swearing is one thing but actually the shouting and aggression are a bigger problem. The atmosphere must be one of you walking on eggshells to avoid setting him off. Please seriously consider your future with this man, he's way out of line and being a shit father and husband.

sillylittlerabbit · 15/09/2024 17:27

Throwing your suitcase across the room is already extraordinarily aggressive.

Do you think you've perhaps acclimatised to his levels of anger?

It sounds like his work isn't tolerating it any longer, and I wouldn't, either.

I genuinely don't believe someone who is ranting and raving, throwing things and raising his fist is far away from physical violence.

What if one of the children pushes his buttons a bit too much?

Jeschara · 15/09/2024 17:26

Why are you with this wretch? His work place has his number, he creates negative vibes, probably shouts and swears when things don't go his way, always complaining things are unfair, his work colleagues and management are sick of him but sounds like he does not get away with it.

You went back to this individual, and things are still the same, time to move out and not go back, you deserve better and so do the children.

BarbaraWoodlouse1 · 15/09/2024 17:12

He sounds like a big baby! Children need peaceful homes to allow them to grow. Time for him to calm down and grow up or toddle off away from you with his tantrums. Good luck.

AzureSheep · 15/09/2024 16:42

Op, the more you say, the worse this is getting. You know you need to leave. I also think you need to leave before his mysterious work issue results in him being let go. They don’t pay people to not go to work unless there’s a very serious issue to investigate. He is not going to take that well, and you and the children will bear the brunt of that. He’s already been physically aggressive (throwing your suitcase, stepping up to you), it won’t take much before he crosses the line.

sunseaandsoundingoff · 15/09/2024 16:30

DrummingMousWife · 15/09/2024 15:26

Swearing itself is not the problem here. It’s his aggression and him terrifying the kids with his overreaction to everything. End the relationship and only allow supervised contact in a contact centre - the kids will not be safe with alone.

This, plus the kids growing up thinking it's normal for people to talk to each other like that (especially men talking to women).

Presumably he caused his own problem at work as well.

Borgonzola · 15/09/2024 16:15

He sounds absolutely horrible

Cherrysoup · 15/09/2024 16:14

No idea why you came back?

Benten7686 · 15/09/2024 16:07

I recognise so much of what you’re saying in my soon to be ex husband!! He too shouted at me when our daughter vomited all over him on a bus and I wasn’t quick enough at helping him, we are now sooooo much happier without him.
with us it escalated to him waving his fist in my face whilst screaming at me because I stopped him from grabbing our daughter out of the bath whilst screaming at her for splashing.
all I can say is leave him!!! Your poor little girl being upset after being sick makes me so sad.

Pallisers · 15/09/2024 16:02

Well, I can see why his work are managing him out.

Sorry, OP, but this is going to get worse - not better. He doesn't even want to try to stop swearing. But like others I think the swearing is a red herring (a pretty awful red herring). Why could he not deal with vomiting without being aggressive to you and making you come downstairs? He is an aggressive, angry man. Your children deserve a better home life than this.

WhistPie · 15/09/2024 15:53

Believe me, your children will think a lot less of you, even despise you, in 20 years or so for allowing them to be brought up in an atmosphere like this

PussInBin20 · 15/09/2024 15:38

God, what an arsehole. Your poor kids. So what if your child vomits - that’s what kids do! I Think you should follow through and leave him. Maybe this is what he wants but just won’t say it?

wellington77 · 15/09/2024 15:32

Do you think you will leave him or are you undecided yet?

DrummingMousWife · 15/09/2024 15:26

Swearing itself is not the problem here. It’s his aggression and him terrifying the kids with his overreaction to everything. End the relationship and only allow supervised contact in a contact centre - the kids will not be safe with alone.

MichaelAndEagle · 15/09/2024 15:20

FoxesSox · 15/09/2024 14:13

I honestly don’t know how to get him to see how close I am to leaving. I left with our children for two months and moved out. And he still thinks “you’ll never leave me”. I will.

I came back because I thought with the counselling and his CBT we had a shot. I guess I was wrong. He says I expect too much.

You don't get him to see how close you are to leaving.
You have to actually leave. And not as a threat to get him to finally understand and change his ways. Because he is not going to change. That's what you have to understand, he is not going to change.
So your choices are, either you stay and live with this, the way it is now, through teenage years, toddler tantrums, all life's ups and downs with this man by your side, exactly as he is now.
Or you leave. Its as simple as that.

samqueens · 15/09/2024 15:04

Go back to your parents’ place.

Read Lundy Bancroft’s book Why Does He Do That?

Stop going to counselling with this abusive man - it is not a safe space in which you can express yourself, he will use what you say there to hurt you further. (You can ask to have a solo session with your counsellor to explain why you need to stop, if you feel that would be useful).

OrangeTeabags · 15/09/2024 14:46

Motherland2624 · 15/09/2024 14:44

I left for pretty much the same reasons although he was fine with the younger ones once the oldest ones started developing personalities and pushing back he started to get physical with them
screaming shouting intimidating them when he kicked my oldest out for answering back I knew it was time to go couldn’t let him continue

This is very much the danger with a parent who can't control their temper.
It takes great patience and a lot of self control to raise children!

Motherland2624 · 15/09/2024 14:44

I left for pretty much the same reasons although he was fine with the younger ones once the oldest ones started developing personalities and pushing back he started to get physical with them
screaming shouting intimidating them when he kicked my oldest out for answering back I knew it was time to go couldn’t let him continue

Aquamarine1029 · 15/09/2024 14:29

He says I expect too much.

Says every abuser. He's trying to convince you that you are the problem. Men like your husband are very, very dangerous.

OrangeTeabags · 15/09/2024 14:26

At the moment your kids are very small & probably quite cute but they are going to get bigger and they will push both of your buttons more than you can imagine right now.

Can you imagine going through all of the issues raising children to adulthood - through the toddler tantrums, schooling, exams, the tricky tween and teenage years - with a man who loses his absolute shit when his small child vomits on him?

If he is having this much therapy and things aren't shifting with him you have to consider leaving permanently.

Undisclosedlocation · 15/09/2024 14:21

“He says I expect too much”

he doesn’t get to decide how low the bar of expectation for his behaviour is. You are fully entitled to expect him to behave in any way you choose. You only get one life (and your poor children only have one shot at childhood) and you are free to decide how you wish to be treated. Either he meets this bar and you stay, or he doesn’t and you leave.

BigStevie · 15/09/2024 14:16

Just leave. He is horrible.