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NHS Exercise advice

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Ryeman · 15/09/2024 07:36

I’ve always been fairly fit and into sport. In the last couple of years I’ve started a pretty intense exercise class and a few months ago upped it from once to twice a week. I also play a sport 1-2 times a week. I feel like this is probably more than ‘most’ people do. But some weeks I’m only just reaching the recommended NHS amount of exercise: https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/physical-activity-guidelines-for-adults-aged-19-to-64/
I don’t really know what my AIBU is here but it seems like the recommended amount is fairly unachievable for a lot of people - in fact I’m pretty sure a large proportion of adults do approximately zero intense exercise. It’s so important for our health as we age, particularly bone health for women, balance and strength. As well as mental health benefits. Should there be more help and encouragement for people to be physically fitter vs just being in the ideal weight range?

Person in a park crouching down to fasten the laces on their sports shoes

Physical activity guidelines for adults aged 19 to 64

General health and fitness guidelines for adults aged 19 to 64, including tips on how to achieve 150 minutes of moderate intensity activity a week.

https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/physical-activity-guidelines-for-adults-aged-19-to-64

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Theyhadalovelytime · 15/09/2024 19:51

Agree it's more about energy than time often

midgetastic · 15/09/2024 18:55

@cuckooooooo

I manage myself most of the time - but I can quite see how people just run out of time - it very much depends on the job and commute - if you are out of the house 12 + hrs with work you haven't got the strength to stay awake once the basics are done

cuckooooooo · 15/09/2024 18:51

@midgetastic I'm 35 weeks pregnant and work full time with a 4 year which includes school drop off and I also have a sedentary office job. I manage a few mins walking a day at least! It's no excuse for the average person.

midgetastic · 15/09/2024 18:47

cuckooooooo · 15/09/2024 18:20

It's a few minutes a day. It's manageable if you prioritise it. Walking a few mins a day with a pram, during lunch break, school pick up etc. If you have an active job that would likely cover it

Most people don't have active jobs

They rush into the car or train for a long commute because they work at one end of town and their partner in another town, they sit at the desk including all through lunch as there is too much work, leave a bit late , or leave on time to get the kids to activities , get home, get the tea made and the kids to bed ,clear up and collapse

sunsetsandboardwalks · 15/09/2024 18:30

I find it quite depressing that so many people think 25 minutes of moderate exercise a day is "too much".

Lack of exercise and general fitness puts you at risk of so many different health conditions, from cancer to heart disease, diabetes and stroke - it's so important and yet so many people seem to think it's optional.

It also means you're far more likely to enjoy an active retirement if nothing else. Spending your seventies stuck on the sofa because you can't manage a flight of stairs without struggling is no fun for anyone.

cuckooooooo · 15/09/2024 18:20

It's a few minutes a day. It's manageable if you prioritise it. Walking a few mins a day with a pram, during lunch break, school pick up etc. If you have an active job that would likely cover it

Chocolateorange22 · 15/09/2024 18:15

I strength training twice a week and run 3/4 times a week. I feel like I'm an outlier amongst my friends and family.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 15/09/2024 18:13

Boredlass · 15/09/2024 09:55

I never go by what the NHS says. Most of it is outdated

You think the idea that humans need to move their bodies, lift their heart rate occasionally and use a range of muscles in order to stay healthy is outdated? 🙄

I can imagine arguing over whether 30mins or 45mins or 1hr per day is the required amount, but the fact that movement is good for our bodies (and our minds) is not contested by any sensible science.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 15/09/2024 18:06

daisychain01 · 15/09/2024 08:11

I don’t really know what my AIBU is here but it seems like the recommended amount is fairly unachievable for a lot of people - in fact I’m pretty sure a large proportion of adults do approximately zero intense exercise.

I disagree and by the way it isn't a competition you know. You do you. Why are you so focused on the fact you clearly think most people are lazy?

The NHS guidance is universal so has to cater for the fact there are 67 million people in the UK, all with varying needs, health challenges, lifestyles, family commitments and personal motivation.

There will be many who do a lot more than the NHS guidance and there'll be others who struggle to put one foot in from of the other and need some advice on a structured weekly exercise regime,

fwiw I think the NHS guidance is excellent, very balanced and achievable:

do at least 150 minutes of moderate intensity activity a week or 75 minutes of vigorous intensity activity a week

75 mins a week is not an excessive amount of vigorous exercise over a 7 day period - about 2 spin classes, 2 running sessions or 2 HIT classes. Or a couple of Park Runs. Or a couple of swims (front crawl or fast breaststroke)

it's an achievable goal for a person who doesn't exercise at all, to build up to that recommended amount.

I agree.

I think the NHS guideline amount is reasonable and achievable for most people if you tot up the moderate exercise as well (e.g. walking to the shops).

NewName24 · 15/09/2024 18:02

Whereas I completely agree with you that there will be lots of people who don't achieve the suggested amount, I do disagree that it isn't really achievable by most people.
22mins of brisk walking a day is something most people could fit in (physical difficulties aside).
If you really can't get out, you can try:

  • Running up the stairs a few times (even better if you carry some weights - like a couple of tins of beans or 4 pint cartons of milk, or even a toddler....
  • Any one of the masses of free work outs on-line and on You Tube particularly
  • Download your favourite upbeat music and dance around the kitchen for 15mins
  • Vacuuming, washing the car, mowing the lawn all help

Exercise / movement doesn't have to be buying kit and joining a gym.

BackForABit · 15/09/2024 18:02

Skyrainlight · 15/09/2024 18:01

There is some help, the NHS have a walking app called active 10 that helps you get your ten minutes of brisk walking a day, it tracks your pace to let you know if you are going fast enough and saves your data so you can keep track of your progress. You can change your target to encourage you get more than ten mins a day.

This is a great idea, thanks for sharing.

Skyrainlight · 15/09/2024 18:01

There is some help, the NHS have a walking app called active 10 that helps you get your ten minutes of brisk walking a day, it tracks your pace to let you know if you are going fast enough and saves your data so you can keep track of your progress. You can change your target to encourage you get more than ten mins a day.

eurochick · 15/09/2024 17:57

"There are 168 hours a week
Average primary teacher works 60
8 hours sleep a night 96
1 hour a day with their children 7"

@Changeiscomingthisyear I agree it's tough for a lot of people to find the time but your maths is a bit out. 8 hours sleep over 7 nights would be 56 hours. So with 60 hours of work that would be 116 hours, leaving 52 hours for everything else - exercise, commuting, parenting, showering, eating.

BackForABit · 15/09/2024 17:51

I care for my disabled children, one of whom is not in school (not our chosen situation).

My youngest regularly gets up for the day at 1am, my oldest at 4am. They usually are both asleep at 10pm. My husband attempts to work full time. It is very, very difficult to supervise both children without both my husband and I being here. We certainly couldn't just take them on a brisk walk (we'd get lots of exercise but it's borderline unsafe - running away, dropping to the floor, eating random plants).

I could try home videos but would have to stop constantly because someone has smeared a poo, someone is pulling my hair, someone has broken into the kitchen and poured flour everywhere etc etc.

There are a lot more families like this than people think.

Happii · 15/09/2024 17:42

FixTheBone · 15/09/2024 17:37

To all the people saying its easily achievable, surely that depends on your work and other commitments?

I work 5/6 days a week, get up at 5:30am, leave for work at 6, get home between 7 and 8, make dinner, eat, clean up, go to bed, repeat, ironically, for the NHS...

I suspect theres a lot of people in similar situations.

Surely you don't work 7 days a week though?

FixTheBone · 15/09/2024 17:37

To all the people saying its easily achievable, surely that depends on your work and other commitments?

I work 5/6 days a week, get up at 5:30am, leave for work at 6, get home between 7 and 8, make dinner, eat, clean up, go to bed, repeat, ironically, for the NHS...

I suspect theres a lot of people in similar situations.

Ryeman · 15/09/2024 17:14

MerryMarys · 15/09/2024 08:55

I think the NHS guidelines are minimal and very achievable.

I agree and there will be many people that do more than that!

I agree it is achievable but I think a lot of people think it isn’t and so don’t even start trying.

You’re right, a lot of people do do more - especially in my bubble of people who exercise or the mumsnet bubble - but I’m sure an awful lot more do a lot less.

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AtmosAtmos · 15/09/2024 15:26

I probably do walking but don’t get to the intensity. A stroll isn’t what they mean: it’s better than nothing and some is disability related but part just laziness.

A good time of year for me to think about it. I’m more likely to walk to the shop during the summer. Need to find my reflective strips for my coat and not use the bus instead.

AdoraBell · 15/09/2024 15:09

I haven’t checked the NHS link yet but I know my current activity level is bad 🤦‍♀️ until a few weeks ago we were going to the gym 3 days per week. Almost nothing for about six weeks and last night I broke a toe in the kitchen 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Meadowfinch · 15/09/2024 15:05

It's only 150 mins. Two and a half hours.
That's a class, two 5k runs and a short weights session.

I'm a full time working single mum. I do a martial arts class with ds on a Sunday evening (60 mins), an early morning run (35 mins), Park Run (35mins) and weights usually on a Saturday while supervising homework.

I just build it in to whatever else is going on.It's only hard when the weather gets really nasty. Then I do more karate training and more weights at home.

cunoyerjudowel · 15/09/2024 14:51

I do around 2 hours of intense sport 5 x a week and then 1 hour gym 3 times a week.

I know this is a lot and not normal but I also work full time and have kids also, I say this to show it is doable and just about finding a system that works for you.

We are natural beings and not meant to be sedentary, so we need to move to enable us to contract all the sedentary time.

I would say everyone needs at least an hour of solid movement 7 times a week and some strength 3 times a week- weather the movement is swimming / walking / cleaning etc but humans need it.

GinForBreakfast · 15/09/2024 13:43

@Fluufer I probably quoted the wrong target. It's 150 minutes of moderate intensity activity a week or 75 minutes of vigorous intensity activity a week. Moderate can definitely include housework, gardening, taking the stairs instead of the lift, a brisk walk etc.

I agree with the previous poster that a sedentary lifestyle is baked into modern life and infrastructure. It's very easy to avoid physical exertion in daily life, to the point that normal movement can feel like a huge effort.

Zizanna · 15/09/2024 13:09

garlictwist · 15/09/2024 09:13

I spent the past twenty years doing high intensity exercise - fell running, spin classes, mountain biking. Now my hips are absolutely destroyed, apparently from overuse. So now I just do gentle exercise as it's all I can do. I swim, do a few light weights and walk about 8 miles a day to and from work.

I think moving gently and often is actually better for us than killing ourselves with high intensity stuff, especially in the long term. Yes, I'm not as fit as I was but if I hadn't done all that in my 20s and 30s perhaps I wouldn't be living with chronic pain as I am now.

I also agree gentle exercise is better in the long run. I was super fit and probably over exercised at times for my whole life. Now at 50, I have chronic lower back and hip pain. I now only walk and swim daily. I occasionally go to the gym, but then only do gentle (for me) cardio stuff. The fittest old people I know have never been to the gym, but have always been outdoorsy and walked a lot.
As for BMI. Mine is 25 and I am a size 8 and lol really slim. I once got my BMI down to 23 and I looked ill.

Changeiscomingthisyear · 15/09/2024 12:26

CormorantStrikesBack · 15/09/2024 07:52

Disability aside I don’t see why the guidelines would be unachievable for people. Even if they were they will be evidence based following research about what amount of exercise is needed to make a difference? So they can’t change it just to make it easier 🤷‍♀️

150 mins of moderate exercise is a 25 min walk a day? Stuff like gardening would probably count as well. Throw in two sessions a week of a YouTube video doing some body weight exercises (so no equipment needed) and you’re there. To be honest it seems a low amount to me.

There are people who work long hours, are carers, have two jobs. I’m not saying exercise isn’t important but with a little bit of imagination it’s easy to see how it can fall of people’s to do list.

There are 168 hours a week
Average primary teacher works 60
8 hours sleep a night 96
1 hour a day with their children 7

Then you’re left with 5 hours. I haven’t covered looking after their children at the weekend, socialising, cleaning, seeing elderly relatives, food shopping, cooking or even personal hygiene.

MissTrip82 · 15/09/2024 12:19

Are we reading the same
page?

It’s five half hour walks and a couple of strength sessions.

I work long hours, shift work, stressful job, family responsibilities - yeah still do this. It’s really not a lot?