Bouncer snapped my sons ID

What form of ID was it? and how easy/expensive is it to replace?
Do you (or your son/his friends) have any idea why/ how it was snapped? Did the bouncer break it accidentally by bending it too far, or something else? Have the club's management said they will pay for its replacement? If not, yes, report it as criminal damage.

What were the circumstances? Why did he have hold of your sons ID in the first place? If he was checking it & it was legit & your son was allowed in the club why did the bouncer snap it. Could it have been an accident when he was checking it? bent it too far to see the holographic bit?

Oh dear. That's not nice.

I'd support an 18 year old in contacting the club to complain, requesting reimbursement for the damaged ID. I'd also support with SIA referral if necessary.

I wouldn't do it for them, though.

And this ⬆️ right here, is exactly what I would have done for my two sons! Being a mum doesn’t stop at 18. They still need help and guidance. My sons are two fine police officers now, with the same caring attitude I instilled into them.

What a delightfully cynical and rude thing to say.

I did the doors for around 6 years before moving in to Close Protection, and have previously been contracted to provide specific training to police forces. I’ve never had the desire to join the police myself, it has never appealed to me.

But I can tell you that some of the things I’ve seen and dealt with during my time on the doors/doing security were horrific.
I’ve had a guy almost bleed out on me after being stabbed in his femoral artery after being attacked upon leaving the bar, a 16 year old girl being raped at a festival, talking a man down from the roof of a multi-storey car park, doing CPR on a man who’d had a heart attack and didn’t make it but I wasn’t allowed to stop until paramedics arrived….those are just a few.

”Bouncers” get a bad name, but perhaps try to consider that they are also the first people on scene to help when something has gone wrong.

Can anyone point me to a post where someone has said the son shouldn't have asked for advice?

I, and others, have pointed out she asked what she should do not what he should do.

I don't get the argument, he is a child so doesn't know what to do, so she should deal with it. How is he going to learn if he doesn't deal with it himself?

I completely agree.

Even as grown adults we often ask others for advice or support with work and our DH’s etc.

This man was in a position of power and did wrong.
I would absolutely complain to the club and ask for a replacement.

I would perhaps encourage your son to do it first but if he didn’t want to then I would do it without judgement.

I would just pay for the ID to be replaced and move on. There are a lot worse things that can happen on a night out, so I'd just be glad my DS was alive and well. The other people on the door apologised, so it does sound like a genuine mistake.

I'd advise your lad to do this.
Ive had many nights of worry and I've had the police to my door over an incident with one of my lads ( he was involved in an unprovoked attack by two blokes when he was eating a kebab waiting for a cab when he was 19)

What a huge generalisation. Unnecessarily rude, judgemental and snooty.

Curious as to why you would be working as a bouncer for £14 an hour or at the very most £18 if u are so successful. My son is in the industry and at 22 is already trained above doorman status and is on better money. Just wondering why, u still doorman?

What actually happened? Was it an accident or did he decide it was fake and mean to snap it? If the former, I'd sent a polite email, asking for reimbursement. If the latter, a more strongly worded one. I would help my son draft the email, or draft it for him but get him to sent it.

Some bouncers are lovely, but my past experience is that some are just really egotistical thugs. My clubbing days are a long time in the past, but I remember a friend going missing in a club. We looked everywhere for her and eventually a bouncer said, 'if you're looking for your friend, she left.' She had been quite drunk so we just thought she must have gone home with another friend. The next day, we discovered that the bouncer had actually got hold of her and forced her to leave, and as an 18 year old girl she had had to walk down an extremely dark and quiet road, partly with no houses and past woods and fields, alone (the nightclub was outside a town in a fairly isolated location). It was before mobiles so she couldn't call anyone, not even her parents. Absolutely horrendous conduct.

Your posts made it sound like you were in the security business given you are still working as a bouncer. So when you are on the door then, would you not expect to pay if you snap someone's ID?

None of my employees would ever check ID let alone snap them, what a very odd comment

Some people are just rude on here.
As soon as a kid turns 18 dont mean thats it go get on with your own life your an adult.
Yes they are adults but they have a long way to go before the real world hits them.
But its ok to ask for hundreds of pounds when they get a job.
They are legal but they are not grown-up yet.
Some seem to forget you was once 18.
Its like people want kids but as soon as 18 arrives and the benefit stops you all stop wanting to be parents and want money back from your own kids.
It makes me angry reading somethings because my mother was the same.

MN! A man who’s an adult should have his mum wading in on his behalf about an arsey bouncer and a broken card... 🙄

Would you complain to a cinema that barred your adult son or daughter from an 18 film or to the police for stopping them on the street at 3 in the morning or a supermarket that refused to sell them booze?

This place can be nuts.

This really isn't a big deal - its not 'deep' as my 19 yo would say. Get your son to contact the club by email and say his ID got broken. Perhaps they'll refund the cost.

Maybe he was misbehaving, maybe not. If not, sounds like an accident or misunderstanding. Fake ID is rife, according to my dd.

At 18, my dd was lairy with a bouncer who told her not to smoke (vape) in the club and he banned her. She ignored the ban but he recognised her the next time she went out and wasn't allowed in. She came home 30 minutes after leaving for her night out. We thought it was a good thing that she had learned a lesson as she was not behaving well with us either (She had insisted she was staying out late despite us asking her not to as we had a family event the next day.)

The same happened to my daughter’s friend just last week. The bouncer decided it was fake and snapped it in half. It wasn’t fake and with her starting uni this week she’s had to run around frantically trying to get a replacement one. Absolutely infuriating.

Well, since you are clearly doing so well for yourself would you not expect to foot the bill if you or one of your employees snapped someone's ID? Do you think it's acceptable for bouncers to destroy someone's property?

It's disturbing that someone on a school board thinks it's OK to casually use the word 'retarded'.

Soooo helpful.

FGS 🙄

bill the club.

No not a hobby but I do enjoy it

Sounds like a typical bully boy bouncer. I mean laminated id cards are pretty hard to snap so it was certainly intentional. You can report them but I somehow doubt any action will be taken. I maybe wrong tho.

You sound very busy. Is being a doorman your hobby?

What a ridiculous statement as I have said I am doorman I have an IQ over 130 I own three business’s one of which employs 70 people. I am on the board of a very large multi academy school and have previously been employed as head of service answering only to the board for a FTSE listed company. I have a completely clear enhanced DBS certificate and I have never wanted to be in the police. So I am stupid and unfit am I ?

Remember I am the person that is going to protect your daughter or son when they get in a bad position with very bad people. No doubt when that happens you will see me as the messiah as this is what usually happens what people like shoot their mouth off to the wrong people and expect me to prevent the response.

Reckless criminal damage seems a bit ott op.

are you sure he broke it on purpose and not he simply bent it too far looking at it, and it snapped?