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Decided people are becoming even more mean

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Lalahaha · 14/09/2024 10:19

I don't use public transport that much but there's not a time I don't witness rude obnoxious behaviour.
Yesterday I was out for 2 hours and it was the worst yet.
In those couple of hours I witnessed...
On the bus to the shop there was a lady with a reborn doll in a full size car seat pushchair sat in the extra room spot. Refusing to move for anyone.
Get to the pharmacy to pick up a prescription there's a large queue. A woman walks straight to the side of the queue to attract the attention of the assistant. She lies that she had been in the queue and is served straight away. Which takes ages as she had lots to collect.
On the bus home we hadn't even taken off yet and a little boy around 4/5 sat on the disabled seat starts screaming . An elderly couple nearby starts huffing that he shouldn't be sat there anyway etc. The poor flustered mom tells them he's disabled and can't walk.
It was just horrible the whole trip.
I'm not going to say I stood up for anyone because I didn't. The confrontation I wouldn't be able to handle.
Am I right? Are the general public getting worse? I know we see bad behaviour all over social media but in real life it hits different.

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Spectre8 · 27/09/2024 21:03

If only we could be a bit more like Japan where anyone will hold youth account. Abit like when I was born in the 90s you had alot more social unacceptable of certain behaviours

PGreen30 · 27/09/2024 20:55

Lalahaha · 14/09/2024 10:19

I don't use public transport that much but there's not a time I don't witness rude obnoxious behaviour.
Yesterday I was out for 2 hours and it was the worst yet.
In those couple of hours I witnessed...
On the bus to the shop there was a lady with a reborn doll in a full size car seat pushchair sat in the extra room spot. Refusing to move for anyone.
Get to the pharmacy to pick up a prescription there's a large queue. A woman walks straight to the side of the queue to attract the attention of the assistant. She lies that she had been in the queue and is served straight away. Which takes ages as she had lots to collect.
On the bus home we hadn't even taken off yet and a little boy around 4/5 sat on the disabled seat starts screaming . An elderly couple nearby starts huffing that he shouldn't be sat there anyway etc. The poor flustered mom tells them he's disabled and can't walk.
It was just horrible the whole trip.
I'm not going to say I stood up for anyone because I didn't. The confrontation I wouldn't be able to handle.
Am I right? Are the general public getting worse? I know we see bad behaviour all over social media but in real life it hits different.

🤣 cracking up, you're so right! I myself go on public transport and have seen some shocking behaviours myself, you're right in saying it is worse than before! Nobody has respect for anyone these days, I always have a good laugh when I've been out and seen so much drama, it's just everywhere you go now!

stayathomer · 19/09/2024 21:48

I sometimes think that and I would think after a day like that you probably think human kind are evil and I wouldn’t blame you but then I see act after act of kindness and good naturedness. Someone paying for something in the shop for someone because a person doesn’t have the money, people letting other cars out, the daily weather chit chat that cheers people up.

Booksandwine80 · 19/09/2024 21:41

Calliopespa · 19/09/2024 21:20

Yeah but this is kind of the problem. It’s people hitting back rudely that’s adding to it.

She pushed my 7 year old child, I was over giving a shiny shit by that point.

Calliopespa · 19/09/2024 21:20

Booksandwine80 · 15/09/2024 19:11

Absolutely true. On a packed to the rafters train yesterday, a woman shoved my 7 year old out of the way to get to an empty seat. I told her she was rude, she sarcastically said sorry (didn’t mean it even a little bit) so I told her she was a horrible cow 😆

Yeah but this is kind of the problem. It’s people hitting back rudely that’s adding to it.

Calliopespa · 19/09/2024 21:17

thereiscustardinthejamtart · 14/09/2024 11:49

I think probably there is a bit of confirmation bias. You see what you are looking for.

I also suspect:

  • the lady with the doll, probably some kind of special needs at play?
  • the lady on the queue, quite probably had previously queued and been told to pop back?
  • the couple “huffing” at the child - really how bad we’re they? Is it possible you are projecting a bit?

Yes, there are inconsiderate people out there, and quite possibly those three were genuinely just as bad as you say. But I also guarantee that there were at least as many acts of kindness and generosity, but you didn’t spot them because you weren’t in the mood to see them.

Yes I did the same at the pharmacy the other day. Waited 20 mins while a lady argued the pharmacist had called to say her item was there and they were telling her it was not. Was then told mine would take 30 mins and as I had school pick up to get to, I had to do my other errand and come back. Got lots of dirty looks but they had said this would be fine.

Cattery · 15/09/2024 22:37

Allfur · 15/09/2024 19:27

Bollox has it, how about noticing some of the good stuff instead of focusing on the bad all the time

Name anything that has improved

LilasPrettyCafe · 15/09/2024 19:40

I think it’s a minority group of people who are rude, entitled and irresponsible but it’s a large minority and it’s growing.

I work at an animal sanctuary in a very large public park and there’s been a definite increase in the number of irresponsible dog owners who refuse to put their dogs on a lead near the animal sanctuary. They’re so hostile, dismissive and uncooperative when you try to politely explain why it’s important. I bet their friends and family think they’re nice/good people, but it’s the things like that which show you a person’s true character.

Allfur · 15/09/2024 19:29

Onwardsandsidewaysyetagain · 15/09/2024 19:26

I find people mostly ok with the odd dickhead. I think headphones don't help as you then can't pick up social cues as you are in your own world. I find people quite courteous in the main, they are in my local shop, people don't barge in, they are mostly polite, the odd one isn't though and they stick out.

I also think we have all started assuming the worst of others and that then feeds the whole thing, if someone barged past my child, I'd probably think perhaps they didn't see them rather than they hate children, calling them a 'cow' then escalates that. If you say 'sorry' even if you are not in the wrong, then people often then apologise or consider their own behaviour. Most people are very righteous in the way they interact somehow and that seems to make things worse, not better.

I have encountered a few rude people, but I would say the minority are like that, the majority seem to be keen to chat or smile or say thanks in the car, it's a minority that don't say thanks for a door being held open or don't thank you if you wait for them to pass in the car and then I do mutter.

Quite, most people are fine, one unpleasant interaction does not mean the down fall of civilisation

Allfur · 15/09/2024 19:27

Cattery · 14/09/2024 14:23

Yes. This country has gone to shit

Bollox has it, how about noticing some of the good stuff instead of focusing on the bad all the time

Onwardsandsidewaysyetagain · 15/09/2024 19:26

I find people mostly ok with the odd dickhead. I think headphones don't help as you then can't pick up social cues as you are in your own world. I find people quite courteous in the main, they are in my local shop, people don't barge in, they are mostly polite, the odd one isn't though and they stick out.

I also think we have all started assuming the worst of others and that then feeds the whole thing, if someone barged past my child, I'd probably think perhaps they didn't see them rather than they hate children, calling them a 'cow' then escalates that. If you say 'sorry' even if you are not in the wrong, then people often then apologise or consider their own behaviour. Most people are very righteous in the way they interact somehow and that seems to make things worse, not better.

I have encountered a few rude people, but I would say the minority are like that, the majority seem to be keen to chat or smile or say thanks in the car, it's a minority that don't say thanks for a door being held open or don't thank you if you wait for them to pass in the car and then I do mutter.

Allfur · 15/09/2024 19:24

As someone who uses public transport alot (unlike you), i have very little to complain about, you just had a bad day

PaperSheet · 15/09/2024 19:18

OhMaria2 · 15/09/2024 18:38

I think everyone's lost the plot since the lockdowns. With driving too.

I agree driving standards have absolutely plummeted in recent years.

No one seems to notice or care that there's other drivers on the road and they think they're the only ones who want to get where they're going as quickly as possible and fuck everyone else.

For example, on motorways approaching turn offs I'll be in the left lane a good mile or two before my turn off. Often I'll be following behind a lorry as there's lots of them about. Occasionally there won't be anyone behind me for ages. Then I'll see in my mirror a car zooming up the middle (or right hand) lane, they'll realise they don't have time to get round the lorry before the turn off, but instead of slowing down to pull in behind me where there's a HUGE gap, they'll just indicate and immediately (sometimes without indicating at all) try to squeeze in the safe gap I'm leaving between me and the lorry. They'll then often slam their brakes on to avoid hitting the lorry as they go quickly from 80 to 60. It's even worse when there's a bit of a queue for a turn off. So many cars just won't wait in it. I've seen lane 2 stretched back for ages with loads of cars all trying to get into lane one and the slip road. No one seems happy to wait at all. I don't want to be sitting there for hours either funnily enough. And yet God forbid after I've already had 5 cars push in front of me I try and not let another one in, I get people yelling and hand gesturing etc. You even see now so many people pulling into the cross hatch area between slip roads and motorways in order to beat the queues for turn offs.

LivingDeadGirlUK · 15/09/2024 19:18

I've never been able to drive and the only difference I see is people being distracted by phones a lot more. There has always been oddballs and entitled people.

Booksandwine80 · 15/09/2024 19:11

Absolutely true. On a packed to the rafters train yesterday, a woman shoved my 7 year old out of the way to get to an empty seat. I told her she was rude, she sarcastically said sorry (didn’t mean it even a little bit) so I told her she was a horrible cow 😆

OhMaria2 · 15/09/2024 19:06

I've got a theory that it's after netflix went rubbish. Society realised they really didn't have anything in common with each other after all, so started treating each other like npcs that are in their way.
I'm only half joking

Wellnesswhattime · 15/09/2024 19:04

I can't believe what people are actually willing to share and say to people. There is a huge lack of self awareness I think. I'm only in my 30s so I can't really remember when it wasn't like this.

sharpclawedkitten · 15/09/2024 19:00

Shesnotelectric · 14/09/2024 13:47

🤣🤣
I do that too my favourite is ‘A thank you would have been nice’ in a cheery tone because its calling their rudeness out and they don’t have a come back due to the cheery tone it seems to baffle people!

When someone is rude to me (and they were at fault), I say "the appropriate response would have been an apology".

Even if they don't say sorry, it makes me feel better!

claracluck1978 · 15/09/2024 18:54

We were at a high profile womens' sporting event yesterday. My two 10 year olds were excited and most of the other kids around were having a great day of it. (International stadium with lots of 'hands on' stuff for kids and adults to do)

Once in the ground the adults behind used some truly awful language and even joked about the words they were using. I tried asking them just not to use the C word in every sentence and got laughed at. Then, on the way out, we were queuing in a food queue and a man in his 70s or so actually manhandled one of my kids aside. Not in a friendly way but actually elbowed him. Both DP and I were absolutely shocked.

We've been attending events at the stadium for decades and never seen such entitled behaviour. Yet all the kids we saw were having a great time enjoying the event. I hope at least some of the younger generation don't grow up to be such arses.

OhMaria2 · 15/09/2024 18:38

I think everyone's lost the plot since the lockdowns. With driving too.

Scunnered123 · 15/09/2024 18:33

Absolutely agree, you just need to look at the way people drive now to see how selfish and self-obsessed we have become.

Shesnotelectric · 15/09/2024 14:00

CantHaveTooMuchChocolate · 14/09/2024 18:25

Sorry to hear this, curious where that was, and if where you are now (outside UK?) is better?

Was at Butlins, Bognor tbh it was just an odd few people and on the camp.
Outside of the camp people were noticeably friendly, polite and seemed to live at a slower pace.
I am still in the UK Essex, people in home town and surrounding areas are very self absorbed its very noticeable when you visit other towns and cities!

Pat888 · 14/09/2024 21:39

I e made several long train journeys up and down the country recently and everyone has been pleasant and considerate.

CantHaveTooMuchChocolate · 14/09/2024 18:25

Shesnotelectric · 14/09/2024 12:32

Definitely! People seem to be more self absorbed than ever!
I have just come back from holiday in the UK and found myself getting hacked off at the lack of manners. Have been ignored holding doors open, people queue jumping, barging past and general horrible treatment towards staff members. I did open my mouth a couple of times with people being rude to staff.
‘Im ok Jack fuck the rest’ attitude is rife especially in my home town.

Sorry to hear this, curious where that was, and if where you are now (outside UK?) is better?

daisychain01 · 14/09/2024 17:03

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 14/09/2024 11:42

Oh god the loud phone clips! I find that the weirdest behaviour. It drives me nuts!

I think there’s just too many of us living on top of each other. I find myself just becoming increasingly unable to cope with the constant sensory and physical onslaught that comes with the general public. We’ve become very loud and extremely attention seeking, rude, brittle, jaded, and that’s because social media does several things off the top of my head: Kill critical thought and dialogue, feed isolationism (not introverted behaviour but isolationism- just saying, as a diehard introvert who really likes and needs social interaction despite my nature), fuels self centred, egotistical vanity (I’m the Big Me, I am! Self Care for me, zero fucks given for you) while killing off self awareness, self respect, and respect for others. We’re very disordered and dysfunctional.
Covid, lockdowns, and excessive access to social media haven’t helped. A privileged few influence the many via social media and the result has been this malignant cult of celebrity that’s spilled over into everyday life. That’s a whole other thread. I digress.

There’s very little in the way of simple pleasures for people. Having a coffee with a friend has become an event, an Insta post, a financial luxury for many. And why bother going out to meet people when everyone has become so exhausting with their expectations on high? I avoid certain friends because I don’t want to be on their fucking feed! I just want to talk. Not be part of some stupid story! No photos!

We’re too many, too close, with too much worry and responsibilities and yet not enough to do. We constantly invade each other’s lives and allow our lives to be invaded, everything is up for grabs on social media and yet, we’re so lonely.
We’re not at peace.

I think most people are really bored and really short of money and really disappointed that their phone life hasn’t upgraded their real life.

And that’s my Saturday rant. 😆☕️

Sounds like you're describing a city or some urban setting. I don't recognise any thing that you've mentioned. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, I'm sure it does, but you have described it in a way that suggests people have no agency over where they live, who they interact with, how they occupy their time, which is really depressing.

  • I deliberately gave up Facebook a decade ago and have never subscribed to any of the new SM platforms, insta TikTok they sound completely hideous and anxiety- inducing. I can't stand lack of privacy and oversharing.
  • I don't go to crowded places very often, I value quiet and headspace. When I do go out, I need a week to recover.
  • I do have simple pursuits like meeting a friend for a coffee. I don't need 50, 100, 598 Friends, single numbers is fine.

what you describe is people who aren't taking control of their existence, they have allowed themselves to become flotsam and jetsam of life. Not everyone is like that, by any stretch of the imagination. But possibly you're not talking about people/families who live in smaller towns and villages, rural living is nowhere near as depressing as that. If anything, isolation is more relevant than overcrowding.