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Parents' parking around schools is getting more dangerous

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Nickynicks · 13/09/2024 21:28

A large primary school on the crossroads of a major A road and a busy B road. Parents used to park in the Lidl car park on the opposite corner and walked. Now they have installed APNR cameras and touchscreens in the packing area for shoppers to enter their reg details.

Now these parents are parking on the corners of the crossroads, making it difficult for drivers driving towards the crossroads. I drove past the school about 40 mins before the school closed and parents were already parking in dangerous positions like the above.

Another school which is en route for a colleague to go to work says parents are parking cars blocking entrances to side streets/cul de sacs.

The only thing to teach parents that this parking behaviour is unacceptable is to hit them in the pocket - fine them.

OP posts:
LadyChilli · 14/09/2024 10:57

Maireadh · 14/09/2024 07:56

Are you going to tell someone’s boss he has to accept them being an additional 15 minutes late so they can walk? Are you going to tell him to install a shower for people who’ve done a 30 minute hike before work?

You can't be serious. Hike? Nobody is asking anyone to get the walking poles out and go over a mountain. I have commuted an hour on foot regularly in the past and was fine without a shower. I've also asked for a slight change to working hours to accommodate public transport schedules before being a parent and my boss didn't bat an eyelid.

It drives me crazy at our school which is in the city. We're a 25 min walk away and I know so many other parents who live a similar distance and they say things like "I had to double park" as though they literally had no choice but to make the road unsafe for every other person using it so their precious DC don't have to walk. Traffic near our school is so bad it's quicker to walk. For a brief spell I had a knee injury and had to drive (bus too expensive) and had to allow 30 mins to sit in traffic and then get parked in any of the surrounding streets. The school is always sending out comms and the head comes out and asks people to move their badly parked cars but it never changes.

Surely the parents who hit people when parking on the pavement should have been charged with dangerous driving? Because that's what it is.

I'm surprised councils don't home in more on this as an easy source of income. Cameras, fines, safer roads/pavements and money for the council seems like a win.

JSMill · 14/09/2024 10:44

Bluevelvetsofa · 13/09/2024 22:00

One of the worst things is that people park very early because they want to get as near to the school as possible, so for at least half an hour before school ends. In the colder weather, they sit with the engine running, causing even more pollution.

One of the arguments is always that people have to use cars to drop children off, but if you’ve got time to sit and wait for half an hour, I think you’re probably not rushing from work.

It’s a problem in all schools and, without sanction, which would probably involve police on a regular basis, there’s probably nothing to be done, except urge people to be more considerate and to promote walking to school, certainly at primary.

Those people baffle me and piss me off at the same time! If you have the time to get their so early, why can't you walk?! I remember dropping dd at breakfast club at 8am and seeing a woman parked in the very first parking space. She was sitting looking at her phone while her kids jumped around the back. They would have had to sit there for half an hour before the gates opened.
I used to live beside a primary school and now live beside my dc's secondary school. I also used to work part time at a primary school and couldn't believe how many of my pupils' parents chose to drive them instead of walking. The growth in traffic has been crazy over the last ten or so years. It is making it unsafe for pedestrians, particularly the children walking to school, which makes some parents decide to drive the children to school instead. Walking to school is far healthier for children and should be encouraged.

RhaenysRocks · 14/09/2024 10:41

Strawberriesand · 14/09/2024 09:47

My child's school is in a city centre and so there is no free parking or
Housing estates nearby. Also can't afford to pay for parking twice a day for 5 days per week to pick her up. On top of this I have two other very young children who won't go into a pram and like to try and run so I park wherever I can close to the school because I've no choice and have to stay on my car until the last second

You could have looked at a different school or make your younger kids go in a pushchair or put them on reins. There are other choices. So long as you park legally and with consideration though it's fine. On yellow lines, pavements or corners, or across driveways, no.

skib · 14/09/2024 10:17

A school in our built up area has a "walk the last 5 minutes" initiative which means kids being dropped off 5 minutes walking distance from the school. Of course if parents have time and it's needed they can walk the 5 minutes with the children but many walk by themselves/with siblings. It has all but solved the traffic problems and congestion and the neighbors surrounding the school are no longer livid.

RedToothBrush · 14/09/2024 10:09

Maireadh · 14/09/2024 07:56

Are you going to tell someone’s boss he has to accept them being an additional 15 minutes late so they can walk? Are you going to tell him to install a shower for people who’ve done a 30 minute hike before work?

Well parents at a local school currently have to walk due to roadworks. Amazingly everyone seems to be coping.

It's actually blissful.

There's a few with exclusion zones in our area now. They work.

deeahgwitch · 14/09/2024 10:07

Never underestimate the selfishness of parents and parking near schools.
God forbid their darlings might have to walk 50 metres up the road and to hell with the wheelchair users and those using mobility walking aids and pushchairs, I'll partially park on the pavement if I wantAngry

Strawberriesand · 14/09/2024 09:47

My child's school is in a city centre and so there is no free parking or
Housing estates nearby. Also can't afford to pay for parking twice a day for 5 days per week to pick her up. On top of this I have two other very young children who won't go into a pram and like to try and run so I park wherever I can close to the school because I've no choice and have to stay on my car until the last second

PeachRose1986 · 14/09/2024 09:37

I see families driving to school all the time that I know live minutes away from the school, could easily walk in and don’t have a job to go on to. It’s pure laziness.

alpacachino · 14/09/2024 09:36

JohnofWessex · 14/09/2024 09:33

Its the sort of thing that the driver should end up on the motoring equivalent of the kiddy fiddlers register for, perhaps even on the kiddy fiddlers register because that is what they are, a threat to children

Sex offenders register?

No. Have a seperate list by all means. That flags when you speak employment. Make it legal to discriminate against them when employing.

JohnofWessex · 14/09/2024 09:34

Many years ago there were a lot of issues caused by parking at the scout hus at the back of my parents house.

It cvame back to bite the scouts however as they were refused planning permission to extend the building and rent it out for other things

alpacachino · 14/09/2024 09:33

Have you spoken to the school? Get them to have a parents evening and show them horrific videos of accidents caused by shitty parking

JohnofWessex · 14/09/2024 09:33

Simonjt · 14/09/2024 07:47

Our sons old primary school had this problem, the other roads were permit holders only, but there was a huge car park a ten minute walk away that was free for the first 30 minutes, so plenty time. Yet a significant number of people would block the road, triple parking wasn’t uncommon. In the time our son was there three people (one a child) were hit by parents mounting the pavement in their cars and driving directly into pedestrians. The child had a head injury and a broken leg, the parent who ran them over didn’t change their driving or parking habits.

The road was then turned into a school street, as the ajoining roads were permit holders only the traffic wardens were always there before and after school, so the parents were essentially guaranteed a fine if they parked there. Suddenly they were able to not only park in a car park, but their feet also did this wonderful thing called walking.

Its the sort of thing that the driver should end up on the motoring equivalent of the kiddy fiddlers register for, perhaps even on the kiddy fiddlers register because that is what they are, a threat to children

Bluevelvetsofa · 14/09/2024 09:31

If you are dropping off your children and going on to work, it’s not unreasonable to use the car. What is unreasonable is to sit in the car with the engine running for half an hour. If you have that time, in primary school at least, you don’t have to rush to or from work.

zaxxon · 14/09/2024 09:26

Maireadh · 14/09/2024 08:22

“He” has always been used to represent a person of unknown sex. “If anyone didn’t know about it, it was his own fault" is perfectly correct grammar.

Err, not any more! Language has changed (for the better). "They" as a singular gender-neutral pronoun wouldn't have been acceptable fifty years ago, but it's common currency now, and more equitable.

Fedupwithneighbours · 14/09/2024 09:24

I live near a high school and this drives me mad. Parents blocking my drive, engines running for extended periods, mounting pavements etc. I used to walk the dog around 8am - no more as it’s too stressful. I feel sorry for the kids walking to school who are put at risk by this pathetic behaviour from their classmates parents. Council should fine the bloody lot of them!

Hoppinggreen · 14/09/2024 09:13

After many years of school runs I don't think there is a solution. For some reason a lot of parents will always park and drive like idiots around schools.
My DCs Primary had a park and stride which was around 3 minutes walk up a safe path from a large carpark and STILL loads of parents tried to park right outside the school gates and surrounding streets despite it taking longer to drop off. Parents would park badly in the carpark we were allowed to use, all piling up one end rather than walk 20/30 metres more and there was some very bad driving in the carpark until the arrangement was withdrawn by the owners.
After much negotiation by The Head and The Council we were allowed to use it again but people went back to driving too quickly in it and parking badly despite it being huge.
No idea why usually resonable people seem to act like idiots at school run time

HaPPy8 · 14/09/2024 09:13

Could the school come to an arrangement with the supermarket for school drop off times? Our local school as this arrangement for a park and stride with a nearby leisure centre and I know of another that has one with a nearby pub. Might be worth exploring?

ExpressCheckout · 14/09/2024 09:11

It's a really sad state of affairs.

Kids at our local school have even made signs/posters asking people not to park and not to let their engines run/idle when waiting.

And, guess what, there is still a hard core of ignorant selfish parents who park in 'no parking' areas with engines idling.

mugglewump · 14/09/2024 09:08

Here in London we have school streets restricting access to all but immediate residents for up to an hour before and after school. Sounds like this needs to be rolled out elsewhere.

KimberleyClark · 14/09/2024 09:08

A great illustrator of the fact that while having children does make you less selfish as regards your own children, it makes you more selfish towards other people's children.

Allfur · 14/09/2024 09:07

Maireadh · 14/09/2024 07:53

The issue is, in the modern world we don’t have time to waste. The school opens at 8 and I have to be at work at 8.30. Then I leave at 2.30 for pickup. If I park further away I won’t get to work or pickup in time.

People nowadays have these tight schedules because they work. It’s a lack of time issue, which then leads to a parking issue because people don’t have time to walk.

Cycling is very quick for those who 'dont have time to waste'

Sirzy · 14/09/2024 09:06

Maireadh · 14/09/2024 07:56

Are you going to tell someone’s boss he has to accept them being an additional 15 minutes late so they can walk? Are you going to tell him to install a shower for people who’ve done a 30 minute hike before work?

Half a mile each way for a healthy adult wouldn’t be a 30 minute walk, certainly not a 30 minute hike.

If time is so tight you can’t park 5/10 minutes away and walk in then maybe you need to look at how you’re doing your mornings. In a lot of cases you would spend longer faffing trying to find the elusive parking space at the school door anyway!

unless parent or child is disabled when plans need to be put in place then in the vast majority of cases parking a bit further out shouldn’t be an issue, it would make it much safer for those who can walk to be able to as well.

nappyvalley1992 · 14/09/2024 09:02

Soonenough · 14/09/2024 06:22

Secondary school in middle of town has huge problems. An older building that has no parking facilities at all even for teachers. No place to go except the streets double parking even. People try to be considerate. What is the solution?

Surely at high school age children are getting themselves to and from school.

nappyvalley1992 · 14/09/2024 08:59

It is bad, walking should be the default option to and from school. That said, if walking isn't an option what are parents supposed to do. The council should have given this some thought.

ManchesterGirl2 · 14/09/2024 08:38

Maireadh · 14/09/2024 08:22

“He” has always been used to represent a person of unknown sex. “If anyone didn’t know about it, it was his own fault" is perfectly correct grammar.

Perfectly correct grammar for about 80 years ago. Did feminism pass you by?