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To think this level of saving is extreme and I’m right to question it?

437 replies

ITru · 13/09/2024 15:32

My DP earns 3,800 after tax. Although we live together he also owns a home and so our finances have always been separate and we just split food bills and heating for my place. Anyway…

it recently came to light that DP is saving 1,500 from an income of 3,800. He never asks me to sub him or anything so that’s not the issue… the issue is he has often said let’s go somewhere cheaper for dinner or let’s go abroad one less night etc. he’s always trying to cut costs. Now I know he’s saving this it’s really annoyed me. Like I say he does pay his way so that’s fine but I can’t understand why for example we went somewhere average for my birthday dinner recently or why we couldn’t have split the cost of a swanky hotel when we went away in summer rather than camping like we did!!

I know everyone has a different perspective on how to spend money and what to spend it on but AIBU to think this is extreme?

OP posts:
ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 13/09/2024 19:48

In regards comments about OP's partner not paying rent to her . At the moment he is paying a mortgage on his own property - which he is not renting out (from what I can gather). It sounds to me as if it's a bit of a trial of spending time together in one house before formalising this with a complete sharing of costs and the other property being let . That's what it sounds like to me . And very sensible - OP is already finding areas of incompatibility regarding finances .. better to find out any issues before things are more formal and it's far more difficult to return to separate properties .

DancingNotDrowning · 13/09/2024 19:45

They BOTH have an asset that is 100% theirs. Why should he have to pay 1.5 mortgages?

because he’s able to avail of some benefit (that op seems reluctant to disclose) from his property. Either it’s appreciating massively; he’s letting an ex / child live their in lieu of maintenance; or there is some other benefit.

he’s able to do that because he doesn’t have to pay rent for his own living and is additionally able to put away £1500 pcm.

if he was paying his fair share to OP she could save that additional money. It’s not her problem that he has liabilities that’s he’s offsetting with his own house

Mrsttcno1 · 13/09/2024 19:36

Bignanna · 13/09/2024 18:55

He’s living there!

He’s paying his own mortgage

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 13/09/2024 19:22

IDontHateRainbows · 13/09/2024 19:15

What so he has an empty house that could be getting a rental income yet he is saving £1500 pm by going camping instead of to a hotel and having cheap meals out?

Is it an inherited house? I do know some people who’d rather their other property remains empty if they don’t need the money. After dealing with letting agents and properties I jointly own with relatives we don’t use letting agents. Yes it’s a pita but so are letting agents.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 13/09/2024 19:19

I’m internet dating again, yes a real insight into personalities and spending habits.

The vast majority of men have nice sports cars, especially if children are grown up. I had 3 dates with a man who rented a penthouse flat in an exclusive area but was very much into high risk investing and he was kicking himself for not buying a previous flat in the same development, he says he has the money for this. He pays extortionate service charges though.

Another man I am about to have a first date with, he’s divorced with an adult daughter but he likes travel and concerts, preferably together.

Lots of men save or are property rich, cash poor.

I can’t see a huge amount here but if your spending habits are different they won’t magically change for him as he’s “saving” and that’s what he wants to do. Either you’re happy with that or not.

IDontHateRainbows · 13/09/2024 19:15

ITru · 13/09/2024 15:49

No he doesn’t rent it out.

as I’ve said many times, I’m not subbing him in any way

What so he has an empty house that could be getting a rental income yet he is saving £1500 pm by going camping instead of to a hotel and having cheap meals out?

BodyKeepingScore · 13/09/2024 19:12

ITru · 13/09/2024 15:48

But he already has close to 100k? That IS security!

I know I can’t tell him what to do I’m just surprised and to be honest even more surprised that a few people have said they’ve done the same!

How long do you think £77k would last someone in retirement without taking a hit on lifestyle? That's a handful of years of a safety net being realistic about it.

BIossomtoes · 13/09/2024 19:12

MrsKeats · 13/09/2024 16:07

He's not that good with money if he's just leaving a house empty. That's mad,

Exactly that. It’s bonkers.

Rufus27 · 13/09/2024 19:11

My DP is very similar. I used to find it a bit strange, but after nearly two decades together, I’m grateful to him for being so sensible (and so used to him being tight that it doesn’t bother me!). It means when we’ve needed a bit extra (private SEN assessment for child, emergency house repairs etc) it has never been a worry.

JustWonderingWhatToThink · 13/09/2024 19:04

I don't see this as a problem. It's his money. Unless you're married it's not really your business IMO.

I think he's sensible.

I do think you are subbing him though.

Bellsbeachwaves · 13/09/2024 19:00

westisbest1982 · 13/09/2024 18:59

It’s been said on here many times the cocklodger would have no claim on the house should he start paying rent.

Maybe she doesn't want the argument if they break up. It's very clear. Your house. My house.

westisbest1982 · 13/09/2024 18:59

Bellsbeachwaves · 13/09/2024 18:57

Maybe she doesn't want him contributing to her house. Wise.

It’s been said on here many times the cocklodger would have no claim on the house should he start paying rent.

Bellsbeachwaves · 13/09/2024 18:57

Maybe she doesn't want him contributing to her house. Wise.

westisbest1982 · 13/09/2024 18:55

Who wouldn’t love to live rent or mortgage free? You are subbing him - can’t you see he’s in a great financial position maintaining his asset (his property) whilst living with you paying no rent? You’re enabling him saving that money. I can’t imagine living anywhere and not paying some kind of rent or contributing to the mortgage, it’s just wrong.

Bignanna · 13/09/2024 18:55

Mrsttcno1 · 13/09/2024 17:45

So he should pay 100% of his own bills and then 50% of all OP’s bills, plus rent and you think that is fair?

Edited

He’s living there!

Startingagainandagain · 13/09/2024 18:54

I have not read the whole thread but I don't understand the fact that you are saying he lives with you but own a property that is not rented.

Why doesn't he rent it out? that would give him even more income and therefore savings.

Beyond that I don't see anything wrong with him wanted to save as much as he can.

cryinglaughing · 13/09/2024 18:53

Better to be a saver than a spender.
I wouldn't be complaining.

BlackShuck3 · 13/09/2024 18:53

He's ripping you off OP, he benefits from living in your house but you get no benefit from his house.

Pussycat22 · 13/09/2024 18:51

GoldenLegend · Today 16:53, she'll be getting a visit from 3 ghosts soon.!

samarrange · 13/09/2024 18:51

I'm on Team DP here.

First, if he decides he wants to change job to something less well-paid, he can do that without changing his lifestyle.

Second, money doesn't go off like milk (assuming of course that the savings are put somewhere like [mostly] shares, so they keep up with inflation, etc etc). You can come back to it later when you need it.

Every 3 months that he puts £1500 in the bank is £4500, which within rounding is 2 months of spending at £2300. Put another way, after 6 years of saving at that rate, he can have 4 years of not working, while still spending the £2300 Four years of not working could time to do a degree, or be a SAHP for a crucial part of a child's life.

18 years of saving at that rate buys you 12 years of not working. That could mean retiring at 54 instead of 66. 12 solid extra years of life when you're probably still in pretty good health, versus frittering it away on slightly swankier consumer goods? I'll take the first of those, thanks very much.

Pussycat22 · 13/09/2024 18:49

Cocklodger.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 13/09/2024 18:49

I never used to be able to save as a sp! My dp of 14yrs was always on at me to save. Now I love watching my savings grow.
Your dp is to be commended.
However, I can only dream about saving the amount most of you wealthy mumsnetters can🤗

veggie50 · 13/09/2024 18:47

100K is enough for most emergencies but nothing like enough for retirement. I suspect that's what he meant by security?
If you haven't given that much thought, in simple term, just think how much interest / return on investment £100K can produce:
At 7%, which is very high, it only gives you £7000 per year. In recent years one would only get 3-5% which is £3000 to £5000 per year. Even with state pension of approx £11000 (current level), you're looking at something between £14000 - £18000 per year, ie £1166 to £1500 per month. That is substantially less than the £2300 he has now after saving 1/3 of his income.
That's probably a good level of saving, he should probably invest the money though and not just keep it in the saving account.

ClimbEveryLadder · 13/09/2024 18:47

Mnetcurious · 13/09/2024 15:36

Wait so he’s not paying anything towards your mortgage/rent? Just his half of the heating and food? You’re subsidising him massively, meanwhile he’s stashing away savings and has a property which is no doubt increasing in value (and I assume providing him with additional income from renting it out?).

This with bells on

Mrsttcno1 · 13/09/2024 18:31

SkytreeMadeOfClay · 13/09/2024 18:20

Hes paying his own mortgage, but that's irrelevant. That's an asset that is 100% his, he could sell it or rent it out if he wished to save that bill, and the OP doesn't benefit from using it or sharing ownership/profiting from it right now. Of course she has 100% ownership on her own home too, but he's benefiting from living in it rent free and maintenance costs free.

@Mrsttcno1 what I say absolutely makes sense and I don't know what's not to understand about it? He lives there but only pays for what he consumes (electric, food etc) but he's benefiting from being rent free/mortgage free/maintenance costs free on the house he's actually living in. Whilst feathering his own nest elsewhere with his own house. It's completely normal and standard to pay housing costs/rent in this scenario when he benefits from using her house and also paying off his own faster..

But if he started paying rent, personally I'd have a contract drawn up by a solicitor ensuring he has no claim over the house in the event of a split. It may not be cute to be so black and white, but life is hard without having another financial anchor in the guise of a loving partner.

They BOTH have an asset that is 100% theirs. Why should he have to pay 1.5 mortgages? Why is that fairer than each paying for their own mortgage? OP’s mortgage is not higher for him living there, she’s paying that regardless. The bills which are higher for him being there he pays 50% of which means actually she’s no worse off and isn’t subsiding him at all. But yes men are all horrible and he should be paying for every bill on both houses because that’s fair!!!

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