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To think this level of saving is extreme and I’m right to question it?

437 replies

ITru · 13/09/2024 15:32

My DP earns 3,800 after tax. Although we live together he also owns a home and so our finances have always been separate and we just split food bills and heating for my place. Anyway…

it recently came to light that DP is saving 1,500 from an income of 3,800. He never asks me to sub him or anything so that’s not the issue… the issue is he has often said let’s go somewhere cheaper for dinner or let’s go abroad one less night etc. he’s always trying to cut costs. Now I know he’s saving this it’s really annoyed me. Like I say he does pay his way so that’s fine but I can’t understand why for example we went somewhere average for my birthday dinner recently or why we couldn’t have split the cost of a swanky hotel when we went away in summer rather than camping like we did!!

I know everyone has a different perspective on how to spend money and what to spend it on but AIBU to think this is extreme?

OP posts:
Tittibits · 13/09/2024 15:59

You need to look at this differently- it’s not about how much he saves or spends- it’s about how much you allow him to save by letting him live in your house for FREE. You are subbing him. He could disappear in a puff of smoke along with his money which you have enabled him to save. Why don’t you suggest going to live in his house and you pay have the bills? You outgoings would plunge and you could save lots yourself.

And no it’s not extreme. Extreme is going out for a family occasion, refusing to have something to eat and getting a glass of water to drink, and then patting yourself on the back for having saved yourself money.

BleachedJumper · 13/09/2024 15:59

I think this is just a different outlook on money.

You seem quite content that you are not supporting him remotely financially, so I’ll take that off the table.

The fact you think £77k is ‘nearly a £100k!’ And that it is an abundance of safety, lets me know what wavelength you are on.

How long have you been together?

Mainoo72 · 13/09/2024 15:58

Conniebygaslight · 13/09/2024 15:55

He should be paying her rent then. No wonder he can save if he’s living there rent free.

But presumably he’s paying his own mortgage. If she accepts rent that he starts to gain rights to her house/equity so she would need to get legal advice.

Starlight1979 · 13/09/2024 15:58

JoyousPinkPeer · 13/09/2024 15:57

Him staying with you rent free us allowing him to rent out his property and keep all that income to himself. Hence he can save whilst you can't.

OP has said he doesn't rent his place out???

Tryingtokeepgoing · 13/09/2024 15:58

JoyousPinkPeer · 13/09/2024 15:57

Him staying with you rent free us allowing him to rent out his property and keep all that income to himself. Hence he can save whilst you can't.

Except the OP has said he isn't renting it out...so no other income

Guiltypleasures001 · 13/09/2024 15:58

Are you losing the single persons rates discount ?
If so does he make it up ?

SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 13/09/2024 15:58

Of course you’re subbing him! Where else could he live where he only paid half of food and bills. Why are you refusing to see this?

Op says he's not renting his property out - and presumably still has to pay his bills on that while also rightly giving OP half for bills incurred at her house.

I suppose it could be cheaper to cater for two - but not by that much surely - plus he'd have to pay all his council tax heating electricity bill and mortgage/rent at his place and half of bills at OP house.

In fact seem like the current arrangement may be costing him more - has that impacted on need to save with him?

IL old neighbour rented like this for over a decade - spent bulk of time at partners and paid rent and bills at property next door. IL like him but liked less lack of adequate heating and corresponding damp with that side and garden being left to go wild. When he finally moved in with partner - landlord sold it at auction as it needed a lot of work by then.

JoyousPinkPeer · 13/09/2024 15:57

ITru · 13/09/2024 15:44

He’s saying he is saving for ‘security.’ He has 77k at the moment. We have had a full open conversation about it.

I am not subbing him, he pays his own mortgage and I pay mine. He is living in my house so we split the bills and food.

Him staying with you rent free us allowing him to rent out his property and keep all that income to himself. Hence he can save whilst you can't.

Conniebygaslight · 13/09/2024 15:55

Mainoo72 · 13/09/2024 15:53

Why would he pay towards her mortgage? They each own their own house that they each pay for. The OP wouldn’t want him contributing to her mortgage because he’ll then gain rights to her home/equity.

He should be paying her rent then. No wonder he can save if he’s living there rent free.

Mainoo72 · 13/09/2024 15:53

Conniebygaslight · 13/09/2024 15:51

He is living with you for free while he saves his own money? Isn’t he paying anything towards the mortgage, I.E rent?

Why would he pay towards her mortgage? They each own their own house that they each pay for. The OP wouldn’t want him contributing to her mortgage because he’ll then gain rights to her home/equity.

Conniebygaslight · 13/09/2024 15:53

ITru · 13/09/2024 15:49

No he doesn’t rent it out.

as I’ve said many times, I’m not subbing him in any way

Of course you’re subbing him! Where else could he live where he only paid half of food and bills. Why are you refusing to see this?

quoque · 13/09/2024 15:53

His saving is fine - I only wish I could afford to save as much! Fair dues to him for having 77k saved, and I respect his dedication to saving. If that doesn't work for you that's okay though.

But you are certainly subbing him by letting him live with you. For one thing, he's paying half the cost of heating a home instead of all of it.

(Edited because I cross posted with the OP about renting out his own home while living with her)

Tryingtokeepgoing · 13/09/2024 15:52

ITru · 13/09/2024 15:48

But he already has close to 100k? That IS security!

I know I can’t tell him what to do I’m just surprised and to be honest even more surprised that a few people have said they’ve done the same!

Its a bit of a stretch to go from £77k to close to £100k! At £1,500 a month it'd take another year. Perhaps there is a huge difference between the two of you in your approach to money, if you really think that.. Saving a third of your income is relatively normal, IME

But, it would help if you could say whether the house on which he is paying a mortgage is rented out...

Conniebygaslight · 13/09/2024 15:51

ITru · 13/09/2024 15:44

He’s saying he is saving for ‘security.’ He has 77k at the moment. We have had a full open conversation about it.

I am not subbing him, he pays his own mortgage and I pay mine. He is living in my house so we split the bills and food.

He is living with you for free while he saves his own money? Isn’t he paying anything towards the mortgage, I.E rent?

SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 13/09/2024 15:50

old mantra of spend a third on housing, spend a third on living and save a third.

Did that in my 20s - when rents were cheaper and when I was trying to pay of uni incurred debts early and save house deposit - worked well for me.

Seems odd to save so much - does he not have much pension or have some longer plan - seems odd to never enjoy having the money unless it's for some purpose.

If he's not increasing your costs - it may be stick to your guns give lots of notice for more expensive fun things and if that doesn't work then I think there some incompatibility to talk though.

Mnetcurious · 13/09/2024 15:50

ITru · 13/09/2024 15:44

He’s saying he is saving for ‘security.’ He has 77k at the moment. We have had a full open conversation about it.

I am not subbing him, he pays his own mortgage and I pay mine. He is living in my house so we split the bills and food.

You ARE subbing him. You pay to live in your house, he pays nothing. Yes you each pay a mortgage but he gets two properties- one for himself and another one (yours) to live in free of charge.

ITru · 13/09/2024 15:49

No he doesn’t rent it out.

as I’ve said many times, I’m not subbing him in any way

OP posts:
Toomanyemails · 13/09/2024 15:49

You just need to have a chat about money and finances, neither of you is unreasonable as you're each saving, contributing to the shared household and buying some treats, but if you have drastically different attitudes to lifestyle, money and future goals it could cause issues down the line. Does he have a pension or are you including that in the 1.5k saved? Is he miserly about money, or does he just not feel that expensive dinners/holidays are worth it to him?

Tryingtokeepgoing · 13/09/2024 15:48

invisiblecat · 13/09/2024 15:44

It appears that he is living at yours entirely rent/mortgage free, whilst presumably he has a tenant in his property who is paying his mortgage, rates and utilities for him there too, so his own property is costing him nothing either. If anything, it is making him money.

So if he pays nothing towards his own property and nothing towards yours either, he is living totally rent / mortgage free. All he is doing is paying a proportion of your household bills. No wonder he can save so much money every month.

I'm afraid you've got a bit of a cocklodger on your hands there.

Why should we assume that the other property is being rented out? Most people I know, when they got into a longer term relationship, didn't get a tenant in straight away. Indeed, usually not for years...just in case. And then they tended to sell both houses and combine funds. But I agree, it would be helpful if the OP confirmed this

ITru · 13/09/2024 15:48

But he already has close to 100k? That IS security!

I know I can’t tell him what to do I’m just surprised and to be honest even more surprised that a few people have said they’ve done the same!

OP posts:
knittingdad · 13/09/2024 15:48

ITru · 13/09/2024 15:45

I just think it’s a bit over the top. Surely saving 1k would mean he had a few hundred spare that means we could do more lavish things. Maybe it’s just me!!

Yes. It does sound a bit unnecessary, and due to insecurity, rather than for a purpose.

It sounds like he's never going to want to spend that money, even if there's a crisis that calls for it, because the money saved is his security, not what he can do with it.

Overcover · 13/09/2024 15:47

I'm a saver and have always lived well within my means. Having that cushion gives you real choice about what to do with your life, rather than choice about where to go on holiday.

His money his choice. If that makes him an unsuitable partner for you, that's your choice.

DaisyChain505 · 13/09/2024 15:46

I think there’s a fine balance in life between saving and spending. If neither of you owned a property and you were desperate to get on the ladder I could understand him sacrificing treats and trips as he had a huge goal in mind to save for.

However the fact that he already owns a property would leave me a little miffed. What is he saving for? Why don’t you talk about a middle ground of him still saving but once a month you have a treat that you both pay towards like a nice meal, trip, date etc.

anonhop · 13/09/2024 15:45

I think he's being super reasonable? He maybe should be putting it in a pension/ investments rather than letting it sit in an account but otherwise, I'd encourage this!

Is he thinking of retiring early or something? X

TreesWelliesKnees · 13/09/2024 15:45

Why isn't he paying you rent, OP?