Juice in school

Such a weird thread. You can shout all day long about the 'sneaky' element and 'hypocrisy' but ultimately, as I said previously, you have 3 choices.

1. Act like a dick

1. Get a different bottle and accept the rules

1. Remove your child from school

No point repeating multiple times why you are unhappy; just deal with it.

Most children will be drinking water everyday as there usual drink without juice ever being an option - I can see why it wouldn't be ideal for one to be drinking juice so all others can see for a couple of reasons;
-Other children may want to also have juice if they can see it's an option making it more difficult for the teacher
-You would want the children in the school to think it is the usual thing to be regularly drinking water

Sounds like the school have listened to you regarding your child having a specific issue and found a solution not sure what alternative solution you were hoping for! Why do you want everyone to be able to see that your child is having a different drink to the rest of the class?

The school allowing chocolate in lunches seems unrelated but sweets / chocolate ect are also not allowed in many schools.

FFS you’re just looking for any argument with this teacher !
Send in water or a non clear bottle and get over yourself !

It’s no juice at my dc school. We just have a non clear bottle. Problem solved. It’s not worth the battle. If it’s policy it’s policy. Lots of schools will follow guidelines for healthy teeth and juice will not “officially” be allowed.

I really think the teacher is trying to be helpful here. He's been given a rule he is expected to enforce (only water). He recognises you don't want to follow it so is offering you a way out. If you choose to be obstructive he'll just follow the rule.

Lots of rules exist in society where there are workarounds for them - it's a good lesson in how to manage as an adult.

Indeed. I never drank water as far as I can remember, even now I don’t like it. I’ve always been a squash person. Entirely different to drinking full fat coke all day though.

Oh for goodness sake - please PLEASE stop wasting teacher time with this. She has given you a get out. Take it. No wonder teachers are thinking F this and leaving the profession. Going to war over a juice bottle. You really need to calm down and let it go. Otherwise by the time your child reaches y11 you will be a frazzled mess.

christ.

So you actually think that it’s okay for teachers to enforce rules for some and not others ?

The teacher doesn't want to
They want to enforce the rule that your daughter bring water
You are refusing to comply
They want you to go away and not take any more of their time, so they have offered an option which enables you to have the juice but minimises the spread of non compliance

What you probably want is everyone to say "oh its stupid, they should relax the rules, let all the kids have juice, you're right op"

They wil not do this, because the government requires schools to maintain healthy standards. You are lucky they've offered to overlook your non compliance. Take it.

This guy is on your side! The rule is no juice and he would be pulled up if she's bringing juice in a clear bottle. He understands your point of view and wants your DD to be happy and settled so is offering a compromise. Take it and thank him! Also teach her to drink water though as she might not always have a lenient teacher.

Then she's not thirsty. Kids living in the uk might not need to drink during the day. If you are in Texas, it might be different.

Why not add a sticker to the clear bottle saying "I identify as a non-clear drinking bottle" Sorted!

Get an air up and skip the juice.

My kid came home from a school with a full water bottle nearly every day for three years because she will not drink water until she is very very thirsty. I let it carry on so long because I thought she was getting milk at lunch time. Then she told me that a lot of the time there wasn't any milk left by the time she got to the canteen and she was just not drinking at all.

So now she has cordial in a non-clear bottle. Some children are very stubborn.

But yeah OP, just get an opaque bottle. This isn't worth the headache

Well we don't actually know if she also drinks tea or milk at home, do we? So it's a bit of an assumption to make that she only drinks juice. Even so, we established above that it isn't actually juice at all but merely a very watery squash. So what is that... 45 calories and 10g of sugar per liter or something. So less than a banana.

What do you want the outcome to be and how do you think will make it happen?

I assume you want your DD to continue to be allowed to bring juice and for the teacher to not have bias against you in case you need to bring up something important in the future.

Do you realise that what you are doing now won’t bring this result? Worse case scenario, the teacher raises it with the school and they change the rule to only allow water and clear bottles. Oh and the teacher will all year long remember how annoying you were and will take everything you say with a pinch of salt.

So FFS stop trying to win this argument, nobody is asking you what you think about the rules, just follow them and buy a new water bottle.

I don't understand your thinking here. You want to send your child in with juice in a clear bottle, and you want the teacher to enforce the rules Do you therefore want the teacher to confiscate the juice or punish your child for having it? Or are you actually saying "I want you to waive the rules for my child and to make it obvious you are doing so".

Just send in water. If your child is thirsty, she will drink it. Start encouraging her to drink it at home, too.

Either get a non clear bottle or send only water. You said the rules are no juice so the teacher is trying to offer a compromise by saying bring a non clear bottle. Likely as he is aware you child is sporty so a little juice isnt going to be a problem for her.
If escalated, it highly likely the head teacher will just enforce the no juice rule for everyone and then what are you going to do?
I don't understand the whole fight against the rules thing at the moment with school. Just follow the rules.

Nothing but juice is not "juice in moderation".

Teach your child that they have to do what the teacher says. Teach your child that we all have to obey rules that seem silly sometimes. Teach your child how not to make a ridiculous fuss about nothing.

YABVVVVVU

OP - just buy the dark water bottle and get on with your life. We’ve done it since reception and no one mentions it

If she isn't plied with juice, she will learn to drink water. Also, honestly, the way that mumsnet carries on - it's the UK, she will be fine.

Why do you need to get anyone to drink water. Would you, as adult, tolerate it if someone "got you" to eat or drink something you didn't like?
Since when did juice become a problem? Certainly wasn't an issue when I was growing up and I am not obese and not shooting heroin or stuffing my face with crisps.
It might surprise you but H2O molecules are identical no matter where they come from and, in fact, short-term hydration studies show that clear water has worse hydrating properties than OJ. Outside of consideration for overall calorie consumptions, there is nothing remotely "bad" about drinking juice in moderation.