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Would you have sex-missionary with someone if offered money

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Snoringfamily · 12/09/2024 23:34

If so, how much would it have to be?

Discussion at work quite a few years ago, inspired by the Demi Moore film. I was younger and had more money than now. If someone asked you to sleep with them for x amount of money-say half a million, would you? Missionary only, over quickly
I was aghast and said no, most said of course they would.

Now, I think I feel differently

Would you?

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AbraAbraCadabra · 13/09/2024 00:56

Abbylikeswine · 12/09/2024 23:49

Does nobody wonder about the psychological damage it would do to you?

I definitely do it. Not that I'd get an offer lol as a slightly overweight middle aged disabled woman but for a million I'd definitely do it, for half a million, probably. My DH could give up his job that he hates by has to do to support us as I can't work so I'd love to take that off his plate. As pp has said I've had sex I've regretted and got fuck all out of it so it'd be no different. Why do you think you'd be psychologically damaged by it? It's not rape, you are consenting.

As someone who is chronically ill though I know how crucially important your health is (way more than money) so I'd want to know he had a clean bill of health first.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 13/09/2024 00:54

PyongyangKipperbang · 13/09/2024 00:18

But you say "You know you had been a prostitute" like its a negative thing. In this scenario he is prepared to pay whatever it costs so you have the power. A shag that would mean nothing to me in terms of the physical act versus the difference it would make to my life in terms of financial benefits.....no brainer. A prostitute who is genuinely choosing to sell sex is not a victim or some second rate human.

The ability to choose is different to a woman who is trafficked or pimped or is servicing an addiction and has no real choice.

Some would say that he is buying my consent, I disagree. I would say that, in this scenario, I am charging him for my consent. Small but significant difference.

I don't believe you actually DO have the power if you need the money, however much you demand. A woman who would always turn the man down whatever he offered holds the REAL power, because the man can NEVER have her. That's why rape is talked about in terms of being a power thing. If a man was going to rape you but you said to him "well, actually, if you're going to do it, if you want to pay me a lot of money I'll let you do it and we'll say no more about it" do you really think he would pay you or just go ahead as planned anyway? That man is never going to opt to pay you. But just say, for the sake of argument, he said "ok then, I'll pay you", would you be happy to then sleep with that man who'd been about to rape you?

Abbylikeswine · 13/09/2024 00:54

Just thinking of it hypothetically. How would it work anyway.

You could have sex with him, and then he could just not give you the money afterwards

Or if he does transfer the money first, the woman could then just decide not to have sex with him.

Neither would have a leg to stand on , If the other one doesn't go through with it. As it is dodgy legally

Synchronisedwitches · 13/09/2024 00:54

Abbylikeswine · 13/09/2024 00:39

Exactly how can a prostitute "genuinely choose to sell sex"

When women only do it when they need the money.

How is it a choice, if you're doing it because you need money.

If there was a twenty year old extremely poor man, and I give him 100 pounds to have sex with me, do you think its wrong then?

We all do things we aren't really that interested in doing and wouldn't do if we weren't being paid... we all have to keep roofs over our heads! Sometimes people who could be doing other types of work might actively choose prostitution because they prefer it to the other types of work they could be doing.
One of my friends was an escort for many years. I met her because we were working together in a bar. So it's not like she couldn't have had a different job. She chose escorting because of the amount of free time she got and because she found it easy essentially. She was very pretty and had a high sex drive. She worked for an agency and made a mint.
I think you could argue it did end up effecting her attitudes towards men but I don't think you could argue that she hadn't consented... unless you go down the route of criticising all capitalism which is quite valid tbh.
But personally I do think all minimum wage jobs are exploitative. And in her case she found this job that paid well and she found less exploitative than the work she was doing previously

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 13/09/2024 00:53

Yuck no.

Or I’d want to see them first, it would have to be millions not £500k and fully clothed, protected and doggy style😆 oh and drunk! Very drunk.

Arctangent · 13/09/2024 00:52

For half a million, I'd be glad to.

I'd much rather live with my feelings over that than I would knowing that I turned down a life changing amount of money.

I could do so much to help myself and my nearest and dearest. It's definitely worth it.

ThatSongStuckInYourHead · 13/09/2024 00:51

I think the point is

"Is paid- for consent really consent"

We talk a lot on mumsnet about the epidemic of sexual abuse out there

Quite. And no, paid for consent isn't consent imo.

AbraAbraCadabra · 13/09/2024 00:49

SocksAndTheCity · 12/09/2024 23:35

God, definitely. Am I allowed to do Wordle.at the same time?

😂😂😂😂😂

Abbylikeswine · 13/09/2024 00:49

Synchronisedwitches · 13/09/2024 00:46

I'd certainly think you were a shitty person who was taking advatage. But I would think he consented yeah. And I'd not think less of him for doing it.

I think the point is

"Is paid- for consent really consent"

We talk a lot on mumsnet about the epidemic of sexual abuse out there

Synchronisedwitches · 13/09/2024 00:46

Abbylikeswine · 13/09/2024 00:41

If I knew there was a twenty year old man who was struggling to pay his bills and buy food.

If I give him 100 pounds for sex.

Has he consented to that sex?

He was in desperation for money

Edited

I'd certainly think you were a shitty person who was taking advatage. But I would think he consented yeah. And I'd not think less of him for doing it.

RogueFemale · 13/09/2024 00:46

ThatSongStuckInYourHead · 13/09/2024 00:32

A prostitute who is genuinely choosing to sell sex is not a victim or some second rate human.

When lots of very wealthy people choose to be prostitutes as a career choice you may have a point. Until then, no. And it'll never happen.

There are many women where the career choice is marrying billionaires. It's an actual job to be a trophy wife.

ThatSongStuckInYourHead · 13/09/2024 00:45

Delonghi88 · 13/09/2024 00:41

Some do it for the money some enjoy the sex and some like both

Here we go, they enjoy it. You'll be telling us they find it empowering next.

Synchronisedwitches · 13/09/2024 00:44

ThatSongStuckInYourHead · 13/09/2024 00:29

No. The idea of a man that thinks he can buy me is repulsive to me.

I think it would have psychological consequences for many who have said yes. Every time you bought something you would be reminded of some grotty man who bought you. <shudder>

Nah I wouldn't.. or if I was it would only to be like 'wow what a fool he was'

I think this might depend on how sexual you are..
I know some people can really only have sex if they feel an emotional connection.
I've never been like that. I honestly think I could have sex with literally anyone (as long as it wasn't violent) and feel either neutral or good about it.
And I don't think about it at all in terms of it meaning anything about who I am as a person.

Abbylikeswine · 13/09/2024 00:44

PyongyangKipperbang · 13/09/2024 00:40

I see what you mean about the sugar babies but in their cases they are not just selling sex. They are literally selling their whole selves. They look, act, talk and think in the way their sugar daddy wants, in order to get the lifestyle. They really are selling their souls. But the OP's scenario is one quick shag. Thats it.

There is a huge difference.

And just because you would have a problem with that doesnt mean that other women would, or should.

I am 51. 20 years ago I would have felt the same as you. So maybe the cynicism of middle age plays a part.

ETA I want to add that I am not "letting" or allowing someone to pay for the use of me. I would be CHARGING them a fee for what they want. Again, small but significant change in the dynamic. I have it, they want it, so I will charge what I want. They dont want to pay it? Ok, jog on. Prepared to pay it, fine. One quick shag and then jog on. Either way, I win.

Edited

No the sugar babies in the article that I read, just had sex for money. They didn't do anything else.

Yes other women can do what they want. I'm just pointing out the various problems that I would think would happen.

BlackShuck3 · 13/09/2024 00:43

Delonghi88 · 13/09/2024 00:39

I suppose it depends on your views involving sex firstly, I don’t see any harm if it’s something you can make money from, as a single father of 3 children I considered it myself. All I would say is keep it very private and stay humble.

You considered selling sex to men?

Delonghi88 · 13/09/2024 00:41

Some do it for the money some enjoy the sex and some like both

Abbylikeswine · 13/09/2024 00:41

If I knew there was a twenty year old man who was struggling to pay his bills and buy food.

If I give him 100 pounds for sex.

Has he consented to that sex?

He was in desperation for money

CurlyhairedAssassin · 13/09/2024 00:40

Surely whether you'd even think about saying yes would depend a lot on your own specific circumstances and stage of life, and the particular man involved. And whether he wanted to do something like film it (and therefore blackmail me later and not give me the money after all)

A woman who is young, free and single and for whom casual sex is routine to them is surely not going to turn down the offer of a paid-for quick shag with a decent-looking unmarried bloke with good personal hygiene. But then morals.....what if the bloke was say, someone in a job for whom it would be ethically dubious to pay for sex. Like someone in law enforcement working with trafficked women or something. Yuck.

Actually probably ultimately I'd wonder about the bloke's motives if it was someone who would ordinarily be able to shag someone casually without paying for them. Why would he be offering money? He'd be on a power trip, wouldn't he? So not for me.

PyongyangKipperbang · 13/09/2024 00:40

Abbylikeswine · 13/09/2024 00:29

I disagree.

I think letting someone pay for me like I was an object, is really damaging.

I was reading an article about sugar babies.
They are young women who have sex with men for money.

In the article, the three women said that they had all come out of the situation: feeling traumatised and depressed.

Edited

I see what you mean about the sugar babies but in their cases they are not just selling sex. They are literally selling their whole selves. They look, act, talk and think in the way their sugar daddy wants, in order to get the lifestyle. They really are selling their souls. But the OP's scenario is one quick shag. Thats it.

There is a huge difference.

And just because you would have a problem with that doesnt mean that other women would, or should.

I am 51. 20 years ago I would have felt the same as you. So maybe the cynicism of middle age plays a part.

ETA I want to add that I am not "letting" or allowing someone to pay for the use of me. I would be CHARGING them a fee for what they want. Again, small but significant change in the dynamic. I have it, they want it, so I will charge what I want. They dont want to pay it? Ok, jog on. Prepared to pay it, fine. One quick shag and then jog on. Either way, I win.

ThatSongStuckInYourHead · 13/09/2024 00:40

Not really because in this senario you have a choice, and there are plenty of grotty men who still manage to get laid so someone is putting out and not minding.

I think it's likely it would mess some women up who think it wouldn't bother them.

I do know someone that used to be an 'escort' to put herself through uni and she was very blasé about it at the time. it really fucked her up for years afterwards and impacted her relationships with men and other parts of her life.

Synchronisedwitches · 13/09/2024 00:40

Abbylikeswine · 13/09/2024 00:25

God I'd much rather have my legs than a million pounds.

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Yeah I think I wouldn't actively swap my legs for a million quid.. but if that had happened to me and I could still walk and lead a relatively normal life I think I might be okay with it.. like it had panned out OK in the grand scheme of things.
We were discussing wether we'd give up a hand for a million.. and I just don't know.. definitely a finger. It is life changing money tho. Could really benefit the children.

Delonghi88 · 13/09/2024 00:39

I suppose it depends on your views involving sex firstly, I don’t see any harm if it’s something you can make money from, as a single father of 3 children I considered it myself. All I would say is keep it very private and stay humble.

Abbylikeswine · 13/09/2024 00:39

ThatSongStuckInYourHead · 13/09/2024 00:32

A prostitute who is genuinely choosing to sell sex is not a victim or some second rate human.

When lots of very wealthy people choose to be prostitutes as a career choice you may have a point. Until then, no. And it'll never happen.

Exactly how can a prostitute "genuinely choose to sell sex"

When women only do it when they need the money.

How is it a choice, if you're doing it because you need money.

If there was a twenty year old extremely poor man, and I give him 100 pounds to have sex with me, do you think its wrong then?

BlackShuck3 · 13/09/2024 00:37

ThatSongStuckInYourHead · 13/09/2024 00:32

A prostitute who is genuinely choosing to sell sex is not a victim or some second rate human.

When lots of very wealthy people choose to be prostitutes as a career choice you may have a point. Until then, no. And it'll never happen.

It's true that the wealthy are not seen working in the sex work area, but at the same time the majority of those who are strapped for cash dont take up sex work.
Speaking of sex workers I doubt that clients would be paying much more than say £200-£300 each- maybe less. So this thread is very much hypothetical/a thought experiment.

BoreOffAboutYerChickensEmma · 13/09/2024 00:37

Mossyeyes · 13/09/2024 00:10

Of course I would and I wouldn't regret it at all. It's life changing money. It would leave the same impact on me as if he has put his finger in and out of my ear.

I'm happily married and I think dh would be a bit possesive but I would talk him around - it's 1 million pounds.

All this talk about losing your soul. My soul is already leaching out in a toxic work environment every day. I have another 20 years to work.

I would 100% swap that for a 10 min shag.

Same.

Wouldnt give a crap if people knew either, I’m in my perimenopause, over 40s life stage where I don’t care about others opinions enough anymore. The gossip would be yesterday’s news soon enough anyway.