To ask for help in how to address this with school?

I would get the police involved straight away and tell them everything. They should send an officer to speak to the teacher in person and this should scare him enough to stop. I doubt school got the police involved last time as they don't want it reflecting badly on them and the public being aware. I would also send an email to the school and the local education authority and safeguarding asking for a meeting. I would also consider taking an injuction out preventing the teacher going near your daughter. It's harassment, and if he breaks it, the police will haul him in. Disgusting behaviour from someone in a teaching roll. I would be fuming!

To be honest, why have the school allowed a man to remain employed and in contact with a school for of kids but is not allowed contact with a select few? Either he is safe or he isn't?

OP, I am a safeguarding officer.

One thing we emphasise when doing training is - if you do not think that you complaint has been dealt with, you are entitiled to report to police and LADO yourself.

It doesn't matter if LADO get reports form mutiple sources, it does matter if they get no reports of the incident.

The member of staff has told you, as directly as they can, to contact police and LADO.
This is not a case of reporting to governors or ofsted this is a police LADO matter.

Please do report.

That the police haven’t acted on this does not mean it didn’t happen and the girls made up a complaint to get the teacher in trouble.

Not finding corroborating evidence (which I think is what you actually mean by “evidence”) is not the same as finding that the complaint is malicious. But there was evidence and corroborating evidence, OP’s DD’s original complaint is evidence and the friend’s complaint is corroborating evidence. The OP also stated that the school found text messages with links to inappropriate websites between the teacher and the friend. That’s further evidence. Lots of crime that is reported has no more evidence than this. It doesn’t mean it didn’t happen and it certainly doesn’t mean that the report was malicious.

The police not acting means they either think the teacher’s behaviour doesn’t amount to a crime, or they don’t think they can win in court (or that they aren’t prepared to put the resources into it that would be required to do so - a frequent problem with sex-related crime and one that has been highlighted by several reports into the police’s failure to prosecute rapists). For instance, grooming, as a crime, would require he try to meet with the intention of having sexual contact. That probably isn’t something you can prove if so far he’s just sent texts with links to inappropriate content.

But what the teacher has done doesn’t have to be a crime to be wrong or for the school to act. Professional standards require that teachers do more than simply not break the law; safeguarding requires schools to act before laws are broken if they can foresee harm to a student.

Finally, the school have acted. What they’ve done we don’t know (because the school aren’t allowed to discuss staff discipline) except that they have told him he’s not to contact the DD. They may have taken more action than that. It’s not to the level of action that many on this thread think the school should have taken, but there may be good reason (or bad reason) for that.

There is absolutely nothing in this thread that supports your nasty and dangerous accusation. The insistence that if the police haven’t acted the girls must be lying is misogynistic and adds to the social pressures that make it so hard for women to get justice.

Nobody , the police or SS could have found any evidence or he would not be still teachimg.what other explanation is there?

Hoping you get some answers today. Good luck.

There is nowhere on this thread that says the police found the complaint to be malicious.

Why would you make up that sort of lie? It’s a really nasty way to try and twist things.

*I'm a teacher and teach Y7 to Y13 and I can't even fathom how he kept his job unless they covered it up when she was Y11 and brushed it under the carpet.

This teacher sounds like an absolute creep. He thought she wanted to talk to him again because she gave him an awkward smile and invited her into a room with just the two of them!?!??? WTAF???*
The only thing that makes any sense is that the police/lado have investigated the complaint and rightly or wrongly judged it to be malicious.This would explain them telling the teacher to keep away from the girls in question (for hus own protection) and also telling you to report it yourself to the police/lado.I find this very unusual because if they are reporting it , there would be no need.A parent reporting what the school have already reported does not add 'extra weight' as someone suggested.
I do not think the school believe your daughter.I think .it is up to you to push this.

She's right, OP, and that's all there is to it - contact the police and the LADO.

Well done for standing up for your daughter, and for raising her to have such good instincts and the confidence to act on them. <flowers>

So you have called them, yes? She has told you what to do.

That is as explicit as you will get. By contacting them yourself you will add weight to any complaint already made and if not made, will prevent any a) attempt to sweep it under the carpet/lengthy process where they try to make him go quietly without scandal to do it somewhere else. B) force the timeline along significantly faster

Absolutely do this!

I'm a teacher and teach Y7 to Y13 and I can't even fathom how he kept his job unless they covered it up when she was Y11 and brushed it under the carpet.

This teacher sounds like an absolute creep. He thought she wanted to talk to him again because she gave him an awkward smile and invited her into a room with just the two of them!?!??? WTAF???

You need to contact the police and LADO yourself. If it’s duplication of effort so be it.

And she added, "I'm a parent myself and I can tell you what I'd be doing in this situation- I'd be contacting the police and LADO directly myself"

She is hinting very strongly that you should do this, if you haven't already.

This - including going to the council’s LADO. Regardless of how old your daughter is, in a school she is still a child who needs to be safeguarded.

The fact that this teacher cannot see that his behaviour then was inappropriate and cannot see how his behaviour now is inappropriate suggests to me that he is too immature to be in such a position of trust and authority.

One of the Teacher’s Standards is to not bring the profession into disrepute - which he is doing with his actions.

She is indirectly telling you to contact the police and the LADO.
if they already know - well no harm done and they are having the info direct from you.
if they dont ….. well they need to know.

This should have been a referral to professional standards and at least there should have been some sanctions against him. He could have his qualified teacher status suspended or removed if deemed serious enough.

For him to be back in school I wonder if the school actually dealt with the initial incidents properly.

If you dont know there are additional rules over the conduct of teachers and pupils/former pupils even if they are over 18. This is because of the power imbalance and potential for inappropriate influence and control.

I would absolutely take that as advice to contact Police and LADO yourself. It might help the school to deal with the issue if the incident has been reported to outside authorities from your side too.

I’m not saying he hasn’t done anything wrong. His behavior is appalling. I’m only saying the head teacher will be having to follow procedures to the letter and that it’s likely to be quite a frustrating process if his behavior doesn’t cross the line into illegal/definitely against professional codes of conduct, but only skirts right up to it. It not that it makes any of it ok, it just that it makes it harder to sack him/get him banned from teaching.

The thing is OP, that the school can only act on things this teacher has actually done or said, and not on other people’s impressions of his intentions or thoughts or motivations - however astute those impressions may be. So in the case, they’re looking at the case of teacher asking a student to come and talk to them - a meeting which didn’t happen because your daughter (sensibly) didn’t go. Obvious as it might be that this teacher is acting inappropriately, in terms of actual actions or speech, very little of any substance occurred. It’s not unusual for a teacher to ask to speak to a student about their work, their behavior in school or things like extra curricular activities. Most of those conversations happen at the end of class or during break times, with the classroom door open so no expectation of any kind of privacy. Conversations that do require privacy should be happening in an office, probably with a 2nd adult in the room or perhaps in an office with glass windows visible to other teachers or staff around. So in this instance the only thing the head teacher can act on is that this teacher asked your daughter to speak to him without being able to explain why a conversation should happen and when he’d already been asked to keep his distance from her. Which is something. But concretely, he might not yet have said or done anything that meets the threshold for being dismissed or struck off as a teacher.