..To be mortified at the treatment of rape victims at the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre?

You need to start your own thread about this, and your own campaign. I'm very sorry for what happened to your son, but this thread is specifically about the new report into Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre and you are derailing it by repeating your own concerns many times over.

I don’t agree , legally he is a man who applied for a post reserved for women.

We need to be able to call this out.

What is hateful is his treatment of women who need single sex care. Women should not need to ‘reframe our trauma’ to accommodate men who identify as women. Or any other man.

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I'm not really comfortable with referring to a trans woman, who has lived as a woman for many many years, as a man. It seems unnecessarily hateful, and detracts from what otherwise could be valid points being made.

I am not comfortable with a man lying to get a job specifically designated for women only. Any man willing to do such a hateful thing is not worthy of anything other than contempt.

This is a thread where women who have had to campaign under death threats, lost their jobs, been derided as bigots are finally vindicated that they should have been allowed female only services.

How about people don't try and derail and make it all about men for a change?

Oddly enough my sympathy is entirely and wholly reserved for the women damaged by this man ( he has no GRC)

MW told rape victims to reframe their trauma, bullied an employee out of their job and created a toxic work environment entirely centred around himself

and how exactly does one live as a woman?? Popping on a sari and growing one’s hair as MW has done is a costume that is all.

rape Support services may indeed offer services for male and female survivors. What they cannot do is lie to women who think they are getting a single sex service when they are in fact not

I don't think anyone is saying that, just that a) why didn't men of previous generations campaign as women did, b) this thread isn't about that.

I'm not really comfortable with a man asking female rape survivors if they orgasmed during their rape. This is what the man Wadha asked survivors during counselling sessions.

If anyone is interested there was a court case recently brought by an ex employee who was "investigate", for having gender critical beliefs , when she raised concerns about the running of the centre.

The court ruling was damming of Edinburgh Rape Crisis. For anyone interested the judgment can be found here.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/66618ed3fa3a410907e67be7/MsRRDAdamssvEdinburghhRapeCrisissCentre--4102236.2023--Judgment.pdf

I absolutely agree that female spaces should remain as such, no exceptions.

But how about we don't tell the mother of someone who was raped that he should go and campaign ffs.

Imagine telling a woman who was raped, and doesn't have access to a crisis centre, that she needs to get out there with a sandwich board around her neck ringing a bell for change.

Mridul applied for and was given a job that was reserved under the equality act for females only.

Mridul is biologically, legally and morally a man.

How funny that your user name appears to suggest you're male with such an opinion. 🤔

No GRC legally equals man however he dresses.

If my son is entitled due to feeling rage at the shit treatment he got at our rape centre so be it. I’m not going to apologise. I’m sick to death of raped young boys and teens never, ever being considered . They are stigmatised for having been raped and stigmatised for wanting and needing support… and let down massively. They are never heard or recognised. Literally nobody cares about them but as you were.

I know it's not the point, but the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre isn't a women's service, and wasn't before Mridul Wadhwa was appointed, though they offer women only sessions at dedicated times.

I agree that anybody accessing rape care services should have the autonomy to reject provision from a gender or sex they aren't comfortable with, and thus that the dismissal was wrong.

I'm not really comfortable with referring to a trans woman, who has lived as a woman for many many years, as a man. It seems unnecessarily hateful, and detracts from what otherwise could be valid points being made.

Indeed.

The point about ERC was that women needing same sex care (hardly rare amongst female rape victims) were being told to "reframe their trauma" to accommodate the preferences and wishes of men. Completely ignoring the basic therapist approach that the client must feel able to talk to the therapist.

That isn't a supportive environment for anyone - male or female. Its a vanity project.

The women probably only get one day a week. Because there are a LOT of them.

The entitlement of men and their apologists is astounding.

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So where's your anger for the women who had to campaign after being in exactly the same position?

You've massively missed the point of why this thread was started and immediately tried to make a female issue about your son. This isn't about him. This is about men coming into women's safe spaces and telling them how they should feel and act after they've been raped.

The entitlement of men and their apologists is astounding.

Agreed this is not about male race crisis support it is about the right of women to have trauma informed /single sex services which , I believe forms the national standard in any event.

Fat chance. You've got to remember than males are the most vulnerable. Particularly when they're wearing a dress.

Our centre is for men and women and when you are dealing with crisis you need support not a campaign.

You seem to be spectacularly missing the point here pet. Nothing will change other than females will not be gaslit into thinking that their services are female only. The male services will continue as is. Almost like you're deliberately missing the point ...

It’s useless if you absolutely can’t do that day and get offered nothing else. Every rape victim should be offered the same level and quality of services.

It would be nice for this thread not to be derailed….

Our centre is for men and women and when you are dealing with crisis you need support not a campaign.

Well I suspect 1 day per week is probably on par, if not generous, given the rape statistics for men and women.