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..To be mortified at the treatment of rape victims at the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre?

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TorghunKhan · 12/09/2024 16:22

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clynyky7kj9o

No women only spaces for 16 months. Basically women, RAPED women - were told they could not definitely see a woman to help them with such an awful crime, they might have to see a man in a dress, and if they objected they were to be 're eductaed' by the man in charge - a man who himself applied for, and got!! a job which was supposed to be only filled by a woman.

It's shameful, disgusting, but whats worse is how many people put up with it!! Who thought this was ok?! why did nobody do anything, or say anything FOR YEARS

Woman with head in her arms sitting on a bed

Edinburgh rape crisis centre failed to protect women-only spaces

The centre unfairly dismissed a worker who believed victims should know the sex of staff who deal with their case.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clynyky7kj9o

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Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 13/09/2024 08:03

GiveMeSpanakopita · 13/09/2024 07:57

Hard agree. And don't forget all the lesbians who gave years of their valuable time during the AIDS crisis to nurse sufferers, raise awareness, march and fundraise.

This despite lesbians being the lowest risk group.

We have ALWAYS done the work for vulnerable men. The idea that after all that, we don't deserve our OWN rape crisis spaces...and we can't even have a thread to discuss it without people derailing to make it about MEN....I can't even.

Men should go look after their own. Goddess knows they do it well enough in all other areas of life. We don't owe them our rape crisis spaces, and we don't owe them campaigning and fundraising for male spaces. They should go get their own.

Well said. And in this case the poster claiming that men were hard done by and somehow less well served than women, using their own numbers, showed that men actually get more provision than women!

Even when women are less well served and disadvantaged, men complain.

But that really just sums up transideology. It's that attitude on steroids.

I'm sure I'm not the only woman who's sick of it.

I volunteer and donate a lot, but these days I only do so for the benefit of women and girls, exclusively.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/09/2024 08:00

Wikipedia is awful.

TorghunKhan · 13/09/2024 07:59

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 13/09/2024 07:52

He's gone, thank fuck. No apology though. The fact that he wasn't sacked is a disgrace.

https://www.ercc.scot/statement-from-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-board-of-directors/

Edited

no no, SHE is the victim - just read HER Wikipedia page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mridul_Wadhwa?wprov=sfti1#Harassment

filthy TERFS ruined HER Life and got in the way of HER helping people.

Whilst every media source, like Wikipedia, is so captured, the battle will never be won because most people think a man in a dress, practically masturbating to their horror stories, was a victim.

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.

Mridul Wadhwa - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mridul_Wadhwa?wprov=sfti1#Harassment

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GiveMeSpanakopita · 13/09/2024 07:57

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/09/2024 20:47

I've said this on numerous threads before, men need to pull their weight.

I've worked and volunteered in male (and majority male) services including shelters, prisons, housing, ex-offender provision. Guess what sex the staff were in the main in most of the social provision... female. In the women's services, guess which sex... also female. The managers were sometimes male but the people doing the work were female. Fundraising... female. Campaigning... female. Advocating... female.

If there's any real cash or influence to be had... male. But the actual work is done by women.

Men need to do all the above. Not just throw their hands up and ask women why they don't do even more. Considering they have most of the power, money, influence and spare time for bloody 'hobbies'. Take off the Lycra and do some unpaid labour.

What you shouldn't do is take the important position at the head of an organisation which should only go to a much better qualified woman.

Hard agree. And don't forget all the lesbians who gave years of their valuable time during the AIDS crisis to nurse sufferers, raise awareness, march and fundraise.

This despite lesbians being the lowest risk group.

We have ALWAYS done the work for vulnerable men. The idea that after all that, we don't deserve our OWN rape crisis spaces...and we can't even have a thread to discuss it without people derailing to make it about MEN....I can't even.

Men should go look after their own. Goddess knows they do it well enough in all other areas of life. We don't owe them our rape crisis spaces, and we don't owe them campaigning and fundraising for male spaces. They should go get their own.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 13/09/2024 07:57

He'll have had money to grease the wheels of him going. It's a disgrace, he should have been fired and he should be stripped of his pension - he used his position to abuse women.

He should be up on criminal charges of coercive control for what he put RA through (and the women he 'counselled').

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 13/09/2024 07:55

nothingcomestonothing · 13/09/2024 07:47

So much this

This is what 'inclusion' really means - taking what women need, to give men what they want. And then berating and shaming the women who object.

TRAs have deliberately targeted the places where women are most vulnerable, whether it's public toilets and changing rooms, or hospitals, prisons and support charities.

This is what #bekind actually is - damage women so men are happy.

Yes and it's damaging women so the worst kind of men can be happy. So the abusers can be happy, as happened in this case. It's using women for the wants of abusive men.

As a PP said thank Goddess for JKR - who has single handedly provided support for women in Edinburgh that the state - despite spending millions of taxpayers money I'm sure - has abjectly failed to do. I know she's got a brilliant team at Beira's place but without JKR it wouldn't have happened.

I am so thankful every day for everything she is and does. At least there is one person I can point to for my daughters as a role model. All the politicians and institutions have failed them.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 13/09/2024 07:52

He's gone, thank fuck. No apology though. The fact that he wasn't sacked is a disgrace.

https://www.ercc.scot/statement-from-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-board-of-directors/

nothingcomestonothing · 13/09/2024 07:47

RedToothBrush · 13/09/2024 07:36

If I was told it was illegal to ask for female only services, I would not try and get help.

Ive already had major issues with falling through the cracks in mental health services which have shocked people.

It is appalling.

It is a downright disregard for the most vulnerable women in society. So vulnerable that they have no services at all. Unlike those who claim to be women. And have taken it upon themselves to go out of their way to remove access to services for women.

They cite bigotry as the excuse rather than acknowledging just how deeply harmed, damaged, afraid and vulnerable these women are. That's how much they hate women.

The most vulnerable and harmed women are humiliated, punished and lectured about how their feelings are wrong and they are evil for having these feelings by people who claim they are improving society and helping women.

It's warped, twisted and fundamentally abusive.

So much this

This is what 'inclusion' really means - taking what women need, to give men what they want. And then berating and shaming the women who object.

TRAs have deliberately targeted the places where women are most vulnerable, whether it's public toilets and changing rooms, or hospitals, prisons and support charities.

This is what #bekind actually is - damage women so men are happy.

RedToothBrush · 13/09/2024 07:36

If I was told it was illegal to ask for female only services, I would not try and get help.

Ive already had major issues with falling through the cracks in mental health services which have shocked people.

It is appalling.

It is a downright disregard for the most vulnerable women in society. So vulnerable that they have no services at all. Unlike those who claim to be women. And have taken it upon themselves to go out of their way to remove access to services for women.

They cite bigotry as the excuse rather than acknowledging just how deeply harmed, damaged, afraid and vulnerable these women are. That's how much they hate women.

The most vulnerable and harmed women are humiliated, punished and lectured about how their feelings are wrong and they are evil for having these feelings by people who claim they are improving society and helping women.

It's warped, twisted and fundamentally abusive.

TheKeatingFive · 13/09/2024 07:36

GiveMeSpanakopita · 13/09/2024 07:28

One by one, the TRA edifice crumbles and the truth comes to the light.

All of us women who were called bigots and worse for years deserve a public apology.

In the meantime, thank Goddess for JKR.

Yes thank God.

But I've long since concluded that we are never going to get the slightest of acknowledgement for being right all along.

It'll all be about how we made the debate too toxic and difficult for them or something. Some total nonsense to make sure they never have to face up to their own failings.

TheKeatingFive · 13/09/2024 07:34

So at least 40 people, on this site for mums, feel that women shouldn't have the right to female only counselling.

That Wadhwa's desire to 'keep it fun' for himself and his instinct to trap these vulnerable women for his own validation was more important.

God almighty, what a time to be alive 🤦‍♀️

GiveMeSpanakopita · 13/09/2024 07:28

One by one, the TRA edifice crumbles and the truth comes to the light.

All of us women who were called bigots and worse for years deserve a public apology.

In the meantime, thank Goddess for JKR.

RedToothBrush · 13/09/2024 07:22

334bu · 13/09/2024 07:20

I am shocked that so many people on this site consider the OP unreasonable. In what universe is it acceptable for a raped woman to be turned away from a rape crisis centre just because they wanted assurance that their counsellor would be a woman. 4% unreasonable 😱FFS.

I'm not.

There's enough people who regularly scold and disrupt and demonstrate their contempt for women on here.

334bu · 13/09/2024 07:20

I am shocked that so many people on this site consider the OP unreasonable. In what universe is it acceptable for a raped woman to be turned away from a rape crisis centre just because they wanted assurance that their counsellor would be a woman. 4% unreasonable 😱FFS.

NotTerfNorCis · 13/09/2024 07:19

Checking reaction to this from TRAs and the Guardian. Crickets.

This case almost more than any other highlights the absurdity of society pretending males can be women.

rainfallpurevividcat · 13/09/2024 06:58

Angry is the word I'd use.

Same old shit. Women don't matter as much as men.

334bu · 13/09/2024 06:55

This article gives a disturbing insight into the culture at Rape Crisis Scotland.

https://www.holyrood.com/comment/view,how-a-service-set-up-for-traumatised-women-forgot-its-core-function

unmemorableusername · 13/09/2024 06:34

A disgusting disgrace.

WandsOut · 13/09/2024 00:57

Who were the directors of Scottish Rape Crisis when Mirdul was employed?

x.com/wingsscotland/status/1834181982848163932?s=46

PollyDactyl · 13/09/2024 00:25

I used to amuse myself by calling him Mr Idul privately.

I see none of the usual scolders have driven by. Can't imagine why, hmmmmmmm.

To the Mum with a lad who was raped, I am so sorry, your poor boy.

Thank you OP for the thread and all for the links and interpretations and explanations.

FOJN · 12/09/2024 23:53

Allthehorsesintheworld · 12/09/2024 22:43

WHAT?
What counselling qualifications does this person have and from where?

Fuck all relevant to the job but a PhD in misogyny.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 12/09/2024 23:23

Yes there's no valid reason for that question. The only possibility is that MW is an abuser.

CrochetForLife · 12/09/2024 23:18

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 12/09/2024 20:34

FFS. Mridul had no interest in actually helping raped females did he?

Not even remotely. Mridul is simply a sexual predator. That like any sexual predator or paedophile chose to work where he had the most access to his sexual obsession, in his case, raped women and girls. Asking a rape victim if she 'orgasmed' during the rape shows the he the sexual predator 'got off' himself, on hearing about rapes. He chose his job because he has a rape fetish. So, like hell am I ever going to validate a man who has "lived as a woman", especially when he is a sexual predator who 'orgasms' himself over women being raped. He is lower than maggot shit.

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 12/09/2024 23:13

Saind3rs · 12/09/2024 17:08

If men aren’t to be involved at all the whole system needs changing as currently males experiencing rape struggle to get the support they need. My son was raped and got nothing as the rape support centre would only let him access support 1 day a week which he couldn’t do as opposed to the 4 days a week women were offered because he couldn’t be on the premises. Men, women and trans should all get the same level of support. Rape is Rape. The whole system needs overhauling. He has still had zilch and is expected to process a court case and the rape itself on the back of zero therapy and support. Women only spaces shouldn’t be protected at the expense of male survivors. I don’t understand why there aren’t separate buildings offering exactly the same.

I'm sorry your son didn't get the support he needed. But using the information in your post and widely available statistics (and basic maths), this means that your son still got 4x the access to services as was available to women. I do believe you when you say it wasn't enough. Women also don't get enough. Were it not for Beira's place women in Edinburgh would have access to exactly 0 rape support if they cannot cope with mixed sex services .

Men don't get the same size rape crisis buildings as women because there aren't as many men who are raped. They still get more access to services than their equivalent female victim.

We don't expect men to get exactly the same number of breast cancer appointments as women as men get breast cancer at a much lower rate. We don't expect women to get the same number of appointments put aside for prostate cancer (because women don't get prostate cancer).

It's a shame that rape crisis centres up and down the country are mired in the mess of transgender ideology and the many court cases that will be coming their way rather than prioritising single sex rape counselling for both sexes. What a waste of money it all is and a huge diversion from providing the services needed for both sexes purely because instead of doing their jobs they've been acting in the service of an abusive ideology.

murasaki · 12/09/2024 23:07

Sarah's case has been so delayed, unreasonably for her well being (and still needs more funds), but I do wonder if the delay could be beneficial given how much more sunlight is being shone on this shitshow.

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