To not be happy with new teacher so far because of this

What's the point of being on threads if we're not going to believe the OP?

The teacher sounds like she is very stressed. Shouting at a 5-year old is not acceptable.

The first weeks back are very busy for teachers. If the teacher received two messages from the parent of every child this week, and has sent an initial response to each message as she has done with you, she has already replied to sixty messages this week (2 messages x 30 parents).

An adult shouting at a 5 year old (for whatever reason) is abusive

The only person being unreasonable is the parent who stood by and watched her 5yo child being shouted at by his teacher for no apparent reason and did not say or do anything.

The book, reading level is a none issue, it’s one week in, you use common sense and read books from home in the meantime. If another two weeks down the line the issue isn’t sorted you chase it up. What you don’t do is standby and let another adult shout at your child for no apparent reason.

@Petitchat we don't know that the teacher did actually shout or just spoke firmly to the child.

Yes thats true but i still wouldnt send my kids.

The responses on here are so interesting though, as the other day there was a thread about a maths teacher shouting at the new year 7s and people were all defending the maths teacher. She was shouting at kids for asking questions yet loads defended her saying teachers should be dominant.

I don’t get how it’s unacceptable to shout at a 5 year old for asking a question, yet doing it to 11 year olds who have just started high school is cool because they’re ’establishing Their territory’. I found that thread really bizarre.

And that's a good reason for shouting at a small boy, is it?

Nrtft, but generally, at the beginning of term, it's taken a few days for kids to come home with books. Sometimes longer. In my experience (4 kids) they have to take each individual child and assess what their reading ability is before handing out books. Otherwise, all the kids would just start on the same book. So I'd just wait a bit longer to see if one comes home. If not, put a note in his book bag saying 'jonny didn't bring a book home this week, so we read xx at home together".
As for the shouting, it doesn't seem nice, but if it's a one off, I'd explain to jonny that his teacher is probably tired, and didn't mean to shout. Explain that if he waits in line quietly he will soon be picked to go home.

If the teacher cannot handle many small voices all looking for attention from her at the same time, she's in the wrong job. But she was handling it. The children were dismissed without any of them going astray. When outside in the playground, particularly if there's any wind at all, if she didn't raise her own voice there's no way she'd have been heard over the loud babble of 'many small voices' all yelling there's my mum, that's my granny, I see my uncle.. She was probably just reminding all the children of the need to stay in line -how can the OP be sure she was speaking only to her child? Claims that she is 'abusive' and 'bullying' seem completely over the top.

There are plenty of schools and teachers that are nothing like this!

I am a teacher (secondary). I would definitely speak to her about it. I would actually have raised the fact that she shouted at your DS at the time, but as you didn't I would now make her aware that you witnessed that and feel it may be contributing to his nerves about school.

With the the book, I would tell her when the kids have been dismissed and then wait for her to fetch a copy. If they don't have enough, you need to know what they are doing to rectify that and ensure none of the children are missing out. You also need to know that he isn't going to be disadvantaged by not having it this time.

Btw, having those conversations in person with her is a kindness, as the alternative would be to speak to the head or to put it in writing. Don't be afraid to politely advocate for your child.

I feel the same way. She asked to email if any problems and told them the book needed to be read.
The OP had no book so she emailed the teacher.
And no teacher should be shouting at a 5 year old for asking a question.

Of course you make a complaint if you witnessed an adult shouting at a small child. You're his mum. If you won't stand up for him - who will?

You won't get much sympathy on this board OP because its riddled with teachers. If the teacher cannot handle many small voices all looking for attention from her at the same time, she's in the wrong job.

I hope you son is ok op.
I just said on a different thread if i had kids i would not be sending them to school at all.

Of course speak to her. She should not have shouted. Dismissal is not an earth shattering event. She should have been able to handle even whatever minor annoyance she felt without attacking one of her students. Good god! I interned in a school and I can’t believe the absurd contortions mn is going through to make this teacher’s behavior ok. Of course she should not have shouted at him.

Just to add that I am not ‘one of those’ parents. My son has a shouty teacher at his school and I’ve heard her shouting and have never felt the need to complain, even once when she shouted at my son because he had done something naughty. It’s not my style, it’s hers. However, witnessing a child be shouted at in such a manner when they have done nothing wrong is entirely different and if it really bothers you then I think there is a place for a calm conversation or to monitor things and see how they go.

I work with 4, 5 and 6 year olds. My colleagues and I have never felt the need to shout under those circumstances and I’d be very shocked to witness it.

Not school, but a club I run, I had a parent who came to speak to me for "picking on her precious child"
I had spoken to more than one of them about an issue but she was being picked on apparently
Then she said I screamed at the children
I asked if she wanted to report it further and she suddenly backed down

Talking to the other adults who helped as I was understandably shaken by this, they said I only ever raised my voice to combat the children's levels and it was never aggressive

Parents can interpret things to suit their idea their child is being picked on by an adult. Like how the teacher went from shouting at drop off to shouting, waving arms at pick up to shouting, waving arms and looking stressed...

But it doesn’t sound like ‘just’ 30 5 year olds (which, I imagine, is pretty challenging): it sounds like 30 5 year olds and their parents.

Absolutely not, if a teacher has not behaved appropriately and shouted at a small child with an angry face when that child has done nothing wrong then it deserves a complaint.

Stop giving teachers a free pass to behave exactly as they see fit.

OP - just ask her for a two minute word after pick up. Mention the book and enquire, so your son doesn’t get into trouble about it. If you think the shouting is playing on your mind, then bring it up calmly and say you witnessed it and it made you uncomfortable. Or, if you think it’s a one off then let it go and just talk to your son regularly about his school experience and if anything else comes up then address it going forwards.

I don't get the posts saying you're nagging her. If she specifically messaged you about reading books you're obviously going to mention your son doesn't have one. Forgetting to give him a book wouldn't put me off though. And losing her cool with a small child (5 or 6) who is already struggling with settling would upset me too. But maybe give her the benefit of the doubt and it was just a one off.