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To not be happy with new teacher so far because of this

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Chilli89 · 12/09/2024 15:42

  1. I messaged her about something and she said she would sort it a few days ago and that someone would be in touch the next day and I’ve heard nothing
  2. We were told reading books had come home and I messaged the same day saying my D son hadn’t got his and they still haven’t supplied one for him
  3. they were in the line at drop off. he wanted help so approached her. She shouted at me ‘don’t shout at me, I won’t talk at you if you shout at me’ in a really angry face. She didn’t know I was stood there, he did not shout, I heard the whole thing

aibu to not be happy so far?

my d son has only just turned 5. In Y1

OP posts:
Chilli89 · 13/09/2024 21:30

Still no book but didn't get the chance to speak to the teacher after school. A Pastoral Manager did contact me today as his teacher had a discussion with her and she's going to give me a call to see what is making him unsettled and emotional as I have mentioned he lets it all out when he gets home. They think it's possible that he may be masking at school

OP posts:
pinkstripeycat · 13/09/2024 21:19

MrMucker · 12/09/2024 16:28

  1. Cut her some slack, your child is probably about 0.5% of her total responsibilities
  2. Cut her some slack on the book, you'll get one eventually, and in the meantime don't you have other reading books for him anyway, making this a non-issue? And if not, can't you get any?
  3. If you're in line for anything, no, you're not supposed to be approaching the teacher for anything. You child stepped out of the line and it annoyed the teacher. If she shouted and he didn't like it, then tell him not to get out of the line. He needs to learn to wait the same as everyone else.

And 4. Spend some time explaining these things to your anxious child rather than pressurising the already overstretched school staff. How is he supposed to get the skills of confidence and patience if you don't model it to him?

Stop. Complaining. About. Schools.

Overstretched! Oh come on. It’s her job. It’s what she gets paid for.

To shout at a small boy when they’re are all new to school is a bitch thing to do. NOT a good teacher. No patience.

She’s just had 6 weeks off and only has 6 weeks to go to her next holiday.

And yes she does have these holidays as my dsis is a teacher and she doesn’t work through the hols as some folk seem to think 😂

Redmat · 13/09/2024 21:04

So he did leave the line. That's why she raised her voice to him She was trying to hand children to their respective parents and didn't need someone in her face asking questions. I expect they had been told before they left the classroom to stay in the line. He didn't. He and you need to get over him being spoken to sharply. It happens.

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 13/09/2024 20:47

It seems hard to unpick from what you've described. It sounds like she might have an unfair prejudice against your DS, but she may also just be stressed. I do wonder if he's been playing up in class a bit, the way she's responding to him (not that it excuses it).

In terms of advice about what to do, I'd say give it another week without messaging and see what happens.

At least if she doesn't give him a book, or shouts at him for not having a book having forgotten she's not given him one yet, you'll have something definite to focus your concern on.

Wrennyjenwren · 13/09/2024 20:07

Dottymug · 13/09/2024 19:24

So many people saying the teacher's in the wrong job. I am almost certain that by the end of term she'll have come to a similar conclusion, as will thousands of her colleagues. Teaching has become almost impossible.

Indeed.

gretathegremlin · 13/09/2024 19:54

Was the message that books were being sent home that day, or that they would be sent home shortly and this is what we would like to happen when they do. Hence he has not yet been given a book.

I ask because when my kids were at primary they never got their books to take home in the first couple of weeks. They were all assessed for reading level first, which took time, each new school year.

If this is the case and their comms have been confusing, she's probably had 30 parents all asking where their books are.

TheHateIsNotGood · 13/09/2024 19:46

Even today I've had to explain to ds22 that some people are just arses and that he will come across many more in life.

Not great that you might need to explain this to your ds5 OP, so just give him love and support until either his Teacher has a better day or finds another pupil to pick on if she/he is truly an arse.

Lemonadeand · 13/09/2024 19:45

muggletops · 12/09/2024 16:50

I would have a word with her. I get fed up with people tiptoeing around teachers because they have 30+ kids to look after . that's their job, if they cant handle it - especially after having 6 weeks holiday, they are in the wrong job. we tell our kids to 'be kind'. In the real adult world, if I was shouted at like that by someone I would be livid. I would definitely say something to her. I'm angry for you (can you tell??!!) 😳

Increasing numbers of teachers are deciding that they are “in the wrong job”. What is your plan for addressing the teacher shortage?

laraitopbanana · 13/09/2024 19:38

Warm hugs.

she seems overwelmed op. I would trade with caution. She has your ds for a whole year and will likely have bounds with all the other staff.

i would suggest : you don’t say something this time however you do react on the go if it ever happen again. Do not message her again but tell her face to face what you need her to know/do. Stay in front of her until you have that book/ check the book is in the bag in front of the class and ask is it is not there.

it is so harsh for a 5 year old. Hope it all goes well.

🌺

Del8100 · 13/09/2024 19:33

KerryBlues · 13/09/2024 19:31

You know it’s different, yet you compared.

No - I compared her approach - firm but kind.

Del8100 · 13/09/2024 19:33

Tortycatlover · 13/09/2024 19:22

So with a class of 10 your child’s teacher has just a third of the job that the OP’s teacher has, a third of the hassle at every stage of the day. As a teacher, I promise you there is no comparison.

And as we are all reminded on MN, private school parents are pushy and pressuring so I suspect her workload isn't a third. After all, she still has to teach from 8:30-5 everyday with lunch spent supervising the children eating their lunch. So everything has it's own pressures.

KerryBlues · 13/09/2024 19:31

Del8100 · 13/09/2024 19:30

Hence I said "so I know it's different".

But this teacher has also taught a class of 30 and that is just her personality. As does my best friend, who is a wonderful, compassionate, kind person.

You know it’s different, yet you compared.

Del8100 · 13/09/2024 19:30

Tortycatlover · 13/09/2024 19:22

So with a class of 10 your child’s teacher has just a third of the job that the OP’s teacher has, a third of the hassle at every stage of the day. As a teacher, I promise you there is no comparison.

Hence I said "so I know it's different".

But this teacher has also taught a class of 30 and that is just her personality. As does my best friend, who is a wonderful, compassionate, kind person.

Dottymug · 13/09/2024 19:24

So many people saying the teacher's in the wrong job. I am almost certain that by the end of term she'll have come to a similar conclusion, as will thousands of her colleagues. Teaching has become almost impossible.

Tortycatlover · 13/09/2024 19:22

Del8100 · 13/09/2024 08:10

Point 1 I find troublesome - it's basically saying "your child is so insignificant, don't expect her to care".

As for point 3, my youngest has just started year 1 and she turned 5 over the summer hols. She's so young still. I hope she knows to stand still in line but if she didn't, then I have no doubt her teacher would be firm but kind in her approach. We're lucky there are only 10 in her class and so it's really only 5 to control - so I know it's different, but the teacher's personality is such that she has patience and the kids seem to respect her approach.

So with a class of 10 your child’s teacher has just a third of the job that the OP’s teacher has, a third of the hassle at every stage of the day. As a teacher, I promise you there is no comparison.

Vanilladay · 13/09/2024 18:55

I'm really sorry about some of the, frankly, bloody awful responses you've had on here OP! Your son deserved better. If his teacher is so bloody stressed after the first week back at school she's definitely in the wrong job and it's only going to get worse. My grandson had this from one teacher but strangely he loved her and never noticed. He'd constantly try to get her attention that he could see his Mum but was ignored. This happened on multiple occasions and I just wonder if some children are just 'less noticable' than others. He was last to be released every single time!! She didn't dislike him in any way and didn't shout at him which would have had me having some words with her!! And, yes I do know how difficult teaching is, I trained as a teacher and after a short period realised my short fuse wasn't the right match for that job but I have family and friends who endure, survive and thrive in their work because they are dedicated and have the right mindset!

CatherineDurrant · 13/09/2024 18:35

Shouting at any child like this isn't ok, especially a 5 yr old. Arrange a brief meet with her before putting your experience in writing to the head: yelling at a very young child in the first week isn't a good sign and it may be that the head needs to support this teacher with managing her class ASAP.

SpiderPlanter · 13/09/2024 17:51

Did you manage to sort the book today @Chilli89?

scotstars · 13/09/2024 12:27

Your story seems to be added to now with arms waving in the air while shouting and other parents with raised eyebrows. If that happened why didnt you wait til the other children had gone and if you were so sure it was about your son approach her to find out what the issue was? Or better yet speak to the ht seeing as you have a playground of witnesses.
It has also changed from your son needed help to he was going out of line presumably not waiting his turn because he could see you. Honestly parents who can never accept their child is in wrong and need to be reminded of rules really make teachers jobs 100 times harder.
It's Friday of week 2. Many children are tired and don't want to go to school after 6 weeks off it can take a while to get back into routine.

Petitchat · 13/09/2024 11:54

mm81736 · 13/09/2024 10:21

She didn't lose her rag she told yje bou off for misbejaving

In what way was he misbehaving?
OP was there and she confirms he wasn't shouting.

pikkumyy77 · 13/09/2024 11:41

hideawayforever · 13/09/2024 09:24

You get bitches in teaching as well as any other workplace, I don't get all this defending of them no matter what. She's wrong to have shouted like that at your little boy. poor kid

This! Ignore the people saying not to raise this issue. If this teacher made a mistake then a calm talk with her about your son starting to get anxious/refuse school will let her know that she needs to give him extra love and reassurance. If she is a competent teacher she will step up. If she is incompetent then, like allot of posters here, she will retreat into angry self justifications and lash out telling you the 5 year old needs to “toughen up” or learn to be disciplined and never draw attention to himself. Then you need to escalate to the head or move him.

Sunshineboo · 13/09/2024 11:33

Does he have a loud voice? maybe sounds like he shouts? could he be a shouter in class?

Just wondering if she has him down as a shouter already hence the over reaction (which still is not on) x

mm81736 · 13/09/2024 10:21

Kirstyshine · 13/09/2024 08:47

So many posters thinking there’s justification for a teacher losing her rag at a 5yo.

She didn't lose her rag she told yje bou off for misbejaving

hideawayforever · 13/09/2024 10:11

ns87 · 13/09/2024 10:02

Raising your voice isn't bullying.

she shouted and yes it is bullying

Seaside3 · 13/09/2024 10:10

I understand the teacher invited the messaging. I'm just saying it's an added pressure that a lot of teachers have to offer that I don't agree with.

And I'm glad you've never felt frustrated, or felt the need to raise your voice, or be snappy at your children. I can hold my hand up and say I have done it. Doesn't make me, or the teacher a bully, it makes us human.