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Twisting truth about work trip

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Jude628 · 12/09/2024 12:09

Hi,

My husband is going on a "work trip" this weekend. He is military and it is a "training weekend".

However, I noticed in his emails today (his email is logged in on my laptop and I have to switch account, he knows this, I wasn't being sneaky) that said work trip is actually a mixed-sex 'adventure' weekend as part of a ourdoorsy club he has joined. He has paid for it too. Now, this is his thing, and I can see why he lied - because he is just back from a long summer deployment and I'm 8 weeks pregnant, feeling terrible and two other small children, eldest just started school this week, so I wouldn't exactly have been buzzing, but I would never stop him especially if booked before I was even pregnant. The mixed-sex aspect is not really a problem but just made me think "hmm ok then".

The broken trust is the problem and I'm just not sure how to approach it without it becoming a horrible argument. I know he feels like fatherhood has held him back from living a really thrill-seeking life and he resents me a bit for that because I don't want to leave the kids and jump out of planes.

What would you do?

OP posts:
Gogogo12345 · 12/09/2024 15:12

pikkumyy77 · 12/09/2024 15:05

Why are women such fucking patsies? He wanted children! He actively engaged in having them! How is this somehow something that OP and the children have to make up to him for? Too fucking right he has to put up with some limitations on sky diving.

Take out a huge life insurance policy on mr. Bestest dad ever and kick him out. You could do better hiring a handyman and a boy toy for sex than trying to make this wanker into a loving husband and father.

If they live in for es accomodation they shed the one that has to leave

pikkumyy77 · 12/09/2024 15:11

He would be very supportive? I don’t believe that.

Hazeby · 12/09/2024 15:11

I think you should just tell him what you said in your post, which is quite reasonable and measured but is clear that this is not great behaviour and you are hurt.

Jude628 · 12/09/2024 15:10

Toastcrumbsinsofa · 12/09/2024 15:05

@Jude628 have you ever left your children with your husband for a weekend away?

When we had one yes, for hen weekends etc. but I am still BFing youngest so I’m not ready to leave her yet. But he would be very supportive.

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Nsky62 · 12/09/2024 15:10

What of your hopes and wishes for a few childcare free hrs?
Assuming it never happens?

tolerable · 12/09/2024 15:06

screen shot the details n set as screensaver. or just plain old tell him you know.
You are being incredibly..sweet.(?)avoidant(?) hes booked it,hes lied about it,hes going anyway-whether you approve or not.
I see nothing to argue about-thats the facts.
the worry ,is you all but feel responsible for him needing to lie. !
YOU ARE NOT.hes a big soldier boy?father of (nearly) three and hes pulled a Rat move. thats not how a unit operates. its not a "misunderstanding" intent is key.people will treat you how you let them.

Toastcrumbsinsofa · 12/09/2024 15:05

@Jude628 have you ever left your children with your husband for a weekend away?

pikkumyy77 · 12/09/2024 15:05

Why are women such fucking patsies? He wanted children! He actively engaged in having them! How is this somehow something that OP and the children have to make up to him for? Too fucking right he has to put up with some limitations on sky diving.

Take out a huge life insurance policy on mr. Bestest dad ever and kick him out. You could do better hiring a handyman and a boy toy for sex than trying to make this wanker into a loving husband and father.

TheRavenSaid · 12/09/2024 15:03

Anyone else read "sex 'adventure' weekend" and think WHAT??

(sorry op)

Codlingmoths · 12/09/2024 14:59

I’d just tell him, tell him it’s a shitty thing for a man who works away to do to his wife who is feeling unwell with the pregnancy he wanted too, and you hope he can look in the mirror because you don’t want to look at him. And that if he keeps opting out of caring for you and being a dad you will fall out of love. Being a mum with a partner who works away is bloody hard so he can fuck off with any pity parties, you’re a mum on your own trying to cope and you will stagger through and look for the support you need from friends and family since he’s not providing it, and if this is the real him, you’ll realise one day you don’t need him.

Est1990 · 12/09/2024 14:59

Are you happy being a wife and mother with an absent husband and father? Unless he is super involved whenever he is around (though it doesn't sound like)
Cause if you are and he provides financially...then no point on starting a fight. Just enjoy your life and your kids.
But he is telling you clearly what his priorities are.

Pixiewombat · 12/09/2024 14:56

I'd be checking he's really on the same page as you about a 3rd baby. Might be telling you what you want to hear, rather than what you need to hear.

Codlingmoths · 12/09/2024 14:55

Jude628 · 12/09/2024 14:12

We both want a third but he does sometimes struggle with not pursuing the things he used to do, which I think is human. It doesn’t make him any less of a father. So I think the guilt of having a child free, hobby filled weekend made him make the decision to lie.

It makes him a lot less of a father. How many times over your kids lives do you think he will opt out because it just isn’t fun enough?

NeedToChangeName · 12/09/2024 14:52

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/09/2024 14:19

Sounds like he wants a third as long as someone else does the work. Pretty common for ego-driven men.

Be careful. You're the anchor, drudge, keep the home fires burning. Which he wants but appears not to fully value. There are other, fun, women out there abseiling and bungee-jumping and so so fun. Because they don't have three small children and a less than partnering partner. If you wanted to create an environment for cheating, that's a pretty good one.

Yes this would worry me

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/09/2024 14:43

OP you're worrying about having an open and honest conversation about needs and wants and balance and fairness.

He didn't bother doing that. He just lied to your face. Because it was an easy way to get what he wanted.

BobbyBiscuits · 12/09/2024 14:43

He obviously lied as he thought you'd quite rightly feel a bit abandoned. I don't really have any advice. But I feel for you. It must be hard being with someone who's job is such a big part of their identity. And obviously is dangerous and they're away for such a lot of the time.
I hope you've a good network of friends and family you can rely on and speak to.
Definitely tell him you knew he's lied and ask him why. Obviously make it clear that approach will never make things better.

ABirdsEyeView · 12/09/2024 14:43

And he didn't need to lie - he chose to. Because it's easier.
You are risking g a lot in having another baby with a man who doesn't want to curtail his life. You'll be the drudge at home, tied to the kids and he'll be having all the fun out there in the world, without you. That's not how marriage and family life is meant to be.

HerewegoagainSS · 12/09/2024 14:39

LookItsMeAgain · 12/09/2024 14:30

100% this.

Please look in to birth control if he won't and I'm getting the vibes that he really won't.

Or just stop having sex with him now you have seen the light.

ABirdsEyeView · 12/09/2024 14:38

I'd hit the roof! Fuck being positive about it and fuck whether he 'needs' it! No one needs a weekend away with their mates when they have an unwell wife in early pregnancy and two other small children.
He's a selfish dick and a liar. You deserve better and you should demand it. No husband if mine would be going on that trip and remaining married to me.

WasThatACorner · 12/09/2024 14:30

Jude628 · 12/09/2024 14:25

Thank you- I knew I would get mixed responses on here 😬

The lying is sad because I wish my husband knew that I do support him having a life beyond work and being a father. But I have probably been too negative about that in the past because he is deployed quite a lot. So I want to nail the “you lied and that’s wrong but I want to make sure you don’t feel like you need to lie again.”

You're thinking about what you want to communicate and how best to do that.

Lying is hard to accept because it raises so many questions. Hopefully after you've had a chat you will both feel a bit more connected. I don't have any experience of being a military spouse but I would say that any time DW and I have had a period without the chance for together time (work / kids / caring responsibilities) there needs to be a bit of a rejig and sometimes one of us needs to give our head a wobble. It isn't because we stopped caring about the other, just we both got into a vibe of getting on woth our own bits.

LookItsMeAgain · 12/09/2024 14:30

HerewegoagainSS · 12/09/2024 13:05

He is resentful of the limitations that having kids is placing on his life but he keeps producing them???
Perhaps he should try contraception. And not lie.

100% this.

Please look in to birth control if he won't and I'm getting the vibes that he really won't.

Catandsquirrel · 12/09/2024 14:30

The thing is, I don't think there's an argument to be had. He's lied. You have evidence. Discuss why this has happened. What outcome do you want, what needs to change? Tell him. listen to his perspective if he's struggling. He absolutely needs to hear yours. Marriage counselling? I'd suggest it after you've talked. Lying to disappear for a weekend is serious business. was there alcohol involved in this weekend? A mature and reasoned discussion is needed if you want to maintain the marriage rather than walk away from a liar and you're going to have to be the one that opens it as you've discovered his lie.

LookItsMeAgain · 12/09/2024 14:28

He is a 50% contributor to him being in the throws of "fatherhood" so if he feels that being a father has held him back from partaking in risky activities and that he resents you, the other 50% person in him becoming a father then you have much bigger issues than just a weekend away.

He is a father, an adult and he has to be a parent to these kids and not simply a DNA donor.

I would have little sympathy for someone who held such beliefs while his life partner is pregnant (again, due to his contributions there) and he's feeling hard done by???
Seriously, he needs to get a firm grip on the reality that is his married life with family.

What if something were to happen to him while he's partaking of these risky adventure filled weekends away or jumping out of a plane or white water rafting or whatever - you become a widow and his kids lose their father. Can he not take part in less risky activities instead?

Jude628 · 12/09/2024 14:25

WasThatACorner · 12/09/2024 13:57

Just to clarify, I completely agree that he has lied and is 100% in the wrong.

It felt to me from reading the OP like the question was more about how to approach the conversation without it becoming an argument that solves nothing.

To PP saying it deserves an argument.....Yes, but my personal preference in that situation would be to approach with a plan to make my point and reach a solution rather than open myself up to drama from the other party. Argue smarter, not louder.

OP doesn't seem to be under any illusions about this being shitty behaviour from DH.

Thank you- I knew I would get mixed responses on here 😬

The lying is sad because I wish my husband knew that I do support him having a life beyond work and being a father. But I have probably been too negative about that in the past because he is deployed quite a lot. So I want to nail the “you lied and that’s wrong but I want to make sure you don’t feel like you need to lie again.”

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Fluufer · 12/09/2024 14:22

Gosh I absolutely would not tolerate a lie of that magnitude. That would be very major argument in our house. A big lie like that would make me wonder what else has he or will he lie about?