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To not understand the obsession with ‘doodle’ breeds

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CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 21:26

Eg: labradoodles, cockapoos etc.

They are absolutely everywhere! Why are people actively seeking out and paying pedigree prices for dogs that are effectively mongrels? Behavioural problems are all too common, not to mention hereditary health issues due to poor and unethical breeding - I am a dog owner and the vast majority of doodles, ‘poo’ breeds etc that I meet are incredibly hyperactive, with owners who have no clue how to deal with them. Obviously there are exceptions, some are lovely but as a rule of thumb they’re dogs that I tend to cross the street to get mine away from.

The breeder who created the labradoodle calls it his ‘life’s regret’ - that speaks volumes in my opinion!

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spinningplates2024 · 16/09/2024 23:02

CherryValley5 · 11/09/2024 22:51

They’re wonderful too but we’re Irish so would really love to have a native breed, we’ve also had an Irish Setter in the past so there’s a common theme! IWS are endangered so it would be lovely to contribute to keeping the breed alive. Our neighbours have one and she is just gorgeous

They’re extinct so I’m not sure why you feel they’d be a wonderful choice too. They are one of the ancestors of a current popular breed…. It’s almost like these things evolve.

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 22:49

I know @cookiebee , It's been an eye opener in a lot of ways and actually quite sad. I've read it all, I understand your perspective. I guess we're all a little defensive about our choices and we really shouldn't have to be. We all love our dogs and that's all that should matter. No judgement, no bias.

cookiebee · 16/09/2024 22:33

cookiebee · 16/09/2024 20:01

There is a nice field near where I live, I take my golden doodle there on his walks sometimes, he is an old man now so staggers along, but we meet lots of his friends there, all sorts of doodles, purebreds and the ones where the owners have no idea, and unlike us all here on this thread they all wag their tails and absolutely love seeing each other, they don’t care what we paid for them or who they are made up of, they are just happy in the moment to exist. This thread was started by someone for absolutely spiteful and nasty reasons, shame on you, also shame on you all who judge us for owning doodles or poos, none of your arguments stand up, you are all just vicious, be more like the dogs and just get on you bunch of horrid humans!

@AubrieDog i made this comment just a bit up thread, the very next comment in response was just utterly pointless and nasty and not giving any reasonable argument, so then I made the mean one about the kennel club. For owning doodles we have been called stupid fake grass buying classless idiots, who by purchasing designer dogs are fuelling unethical breeding of dogs for money, pointless dogs that don’t need to be engineered for humans as pets. So of course il retaliate with the obvious parallels to the breeds on the kennel club list, it’s the nastiness and the hypocrisy we are shouting down, but I also love all the purebreds as well.

Most like you, me and many on here just love dogs and don’t start threads attacking others choices, we just love their cute wooftasic snuffly faces.

Milly16 · 16/09/2024 21:59

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 21:53

I agree that it is a mean spirited thread which is why I have been consistently unbiased.

However, I do own purebred dogs and I wish that some of you could be a little more objective and see that choosing to have a pedigree dog doesn't automatically make someone nasty or bigoted or snobbish. Most of us really aren't.

And no - pedigree dogs aren't all inbred and ailing any more than non-pedigree dogs in the main. It is only a minority that are badly bred for profit, exactly as it is with the doodles in fact - the minority spoil it for the rest of us.

The discrimination on here goes both ways.

No one has said that owning a pedigree dog is snobbish or bad in any way whatsoever. People have commented that some of the comments on here about non pedigree dogs and their owners have been unpleasant and yes, snobbish. And obviously there is something wrong with picking an inherently unhealthy breed of dog. But nothing wrong whatsoever with pedigree dogs - all dogs are gorgeous (well most anyway!!)

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 21:53

cookiebee · 16/09/2024 21:22

I think you might have commented similar on an earlier post of mine, you have actually been quite balanced and kind on here. But as I said to you before (I think), we doodle owners didn’t start this VERY mean spirited and nasty thread that attacks us for no reason, so me and others are retaliating to some quite nasty and ignorant comments!

I agree that it is a mean spirited thread which is why I have been consistently unbiased.

However, I do own purebred dogs and I wish that some of you could be a little more objective and see that choosing to have a pedigree dog doesn't automatically make someone nasty or bigoted or snobbish. Most of us really aren't.

And no - pedigree dogs aren't all inbred and ailing any more than non-pedigree dogs in the main. It is only a minority that are badly bred for profit, exactly as it is with the doodles in fact - the minority spoil it for the rest of us.

The discrimination on here goes both ways.

cookiebee · 16/09/2024 21:22

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 21:18

So it's not okay for people to insult doodles/doodle owners but it's fine for you to insult purebred dogs and their owners... How does that work then?

Some of us manage to insult neither...it can be done.

I think you might have commented similar on an earlier post of mine, you have actually been quite balanced and kind on here. But as I said to you before (I think), we doodle owners didn’t start this VERY mean spirited and nasty thread that attacks us for no reason, so me and others are retaliating to some quite nasty and ignorant comments!

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 21:18

cookiebee · 16/09/2024 21:01

Does the kennel club give out free lobotomies for everyone who PURCHASES a DESIGNER DOG off of them, who then go on to not understand that doodle owners support ethical breeding as well, I give up!

So it's not okay for people to insult doodles/doodle owners but it's fine for you to insult purebred dogs and their owners... How does that work then?

Some of us manage to insult neither...it can be done.

cookiebee · 16/09/2024 21:01

Does the kennel club give out free lobotomies for everyone who PURCHASES a DESIGNER DOG off of them, who then go on to not understand that doodle owners support ethical breeding as well, I give up!

FiddleSticks00 · 16/09/2024 21:00

You might want to go see to your "ethically bred" dogs then - don't think you've spent a moment off this thread since it started 🤭

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 20:40

Nah, I'll stick to caring about the welfare and ethical breeding of dogs, thanks.

cookiebee · 16/09/2024 20:01

There is a nice field near where I live, I take my golden doodle there on his walks sometimes, he is an old man now so staggers along, but we meet lots of his friends there, all sorts of doodles, purebreds and the ones where the owners have no idea, and unlike us all here on this thread they all wag their tails and absolutely love seeing each other, they don’t care what we paid for them or who they are made up of, they are just happy in the moment to exist. This thread was started by someone for absolutely spiteful and nasty reasons, shame on you, also shame on you all who judge us for owning doodles or poos, none of your arguments stand up, you are all just vicious, be more like the dogs and just get on you bunch of horrid humans!

DonnaDonna0 · 16/09/2024 19:55

Honestly the level of hate and nastiness on this thread is totally uncalled for.
Choose your dog, get on with your life and let others do the same.
I’m embarrassed for some of the posters on here.
Your opinion is just that an opinion, give your heads a wobble.

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 19:47

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 19:27

Honestly... this level of intelligence is a new thing with her 🤣 Although I do wonder if she often just plays dumb for her own benefit!

I'd like to bet she knows a lot more than she lets on.
Oh hell yeah - they take advantage in so many ways, they have us sussed alright. My pup is an angel for my husband but walks all over me and makes me look like an eejit (mind, that's not difficult...😜).

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 19:27

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 19:01

💓💗💞

Girls are so much cleverer than boys (sorry lads). My girl is a Mensa child too.

Honestly... this level of intelligence is a new thing with her 🤣 Although I do wonder if she often just plays dumb for her own benefit!

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 19:01

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 18:55

Just go lighten it up a bit... I did laugh just now. Since I've been neglecting my dog whilst arguing on this thread... she came and got me and took me out to the garden, where she'd lined her toys up in a row. She looked at me all proudly, like she'd set me up a play table at preschool or something 🤣🤣 I think she might be cleverer than I thought 🙈

💓💗💞

Girls are so much cleverer than boys (sorry lads). My girl is a Mensa child too.

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 18:55

Just go lighten it up a bit... I did laugh just now. Since I've been neglecting my dog whilst arguing on this thread... she came and got me and took me out to the garden, where she'd lined her toys up in a row. She looked at me all proudly, like she'd set me up a play table at preschool or something 🤣🤣 I think she might be cleverer than I thought 🙈

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 18:34

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 18:26

I was actually surprised by your response as like you say, you have been quite neutral. It was the "vile" and "hope you're ok" bit that got me, like PP had just posted the most scathing comment ever known to man. It did seem a tad over the top and if mumsnet were silly enough to delete it, people will probably think that poster has just made a death threat or something!

It just seemed a hurtful comment to me but I am neurodiverse and sometimes take things literally.

I am still neutral. I have no issue with Doodles or Poos (in fact I genuinely think your girl is gorgeous!). My own personal dislikes are all toy breeds. But I do get hurt by people constantly abusing owners of purebred dogs.

Hence I am on the fence as regards this thread.

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 18:33

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 18:24

But you don't know what your vet's opinion is, do you?

They have a moral responsibility to remain professional with ALL animals and it is the same with people who work in rescue/groomers/boarding kennel staff. Everyone has preferences, it's just normal.

I don't know. But PP DOES know what the wheel thingy posters opinions are and that is why she made that comment.

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 18:27

F0urt33n · 16/09/2024 18:18

If you were a vet there is no way you’d be going anywhere near my cockapoo.

Me??? Please tell me when or where I have said I have a problem with Doodles or Poos? I have consistently stated that I don't. Read my earlier posts and you will see this. Why is everybody suddenly attacking me? I have remained neutral right the way through this thread.

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 18:26

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 18:20

Okay. Her response wasn't nice either. But as I said before it's pretty much six of one and half a dozen of the other as far as I can see...

BTW I've been neutral all the way through the thread so accusing me of hysterics wasn't really necessary. I'm trying to see both sides.

I was actually surprised by your response as like you say, you have been quite neutral. It was the "vile" and "hope you're ok" bit that got me, like PP had just posted the most scathing comment ever known to man. It did seem a tad over the top and if mumsnet were silly enough to delete it, people will probably think that poster has just made a death threat or something!

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 18:24

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 18:14

I probably wouldn't take my dog to a vet who shared PP's views, no.

But you don't know what your vet's opinion is, do you?

They have a moral responsibility to remain professional with ALL animals and it is the same with people who work in rescue/groomers/boarding kennel staff. Everyone has preferences, it's just normal.

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 18:22

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 17:47

I have a rescue mongrel as well as my purebreed dogs, but OK. I just don't call him a ridiculous, made up name.

Haven't had a staffie in for ages 👍

Do you think of him as a real dog though 😂

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 18:20

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 16/09/2024 18:01

@AubrieDog it's pretty personal....she's lumped me in with the type of owner that I most certainly am not.

Okay. Her response wasn't nice either. But as I said before it's pretty much six of one and half a dozen of the other as far as I can see...

BTW I've been neutral all the way through the thread so accusing me of hysterics wasn't really necessary. I'm trying to see both sides.

F0urt33n · 16/09/2024 18:18

AubrieDog · 16/09/2024 18:07

It is a personal attack. It implies unprofessional behaviour without any proof of such.

Would you say the same about a vet? Because BTW they also hate particular breeds... Would you say your vet shouldn't treat a breed they don't like?

If you were a vet there is no way you’d be going anywhere near my cockapoo.

CellophaneFlower · 16/09/2024 18:17

WalkingonWheels · 16/09/2024 17:47

I have a rescue mongrel as well as my purebreed dogs, but OK. I just don't call him a ridiculous, made up name.

Haven't had a staffie in for ages 👍

I don't call my dog a "stupid made up name". I call her a poodle/golden retriever/ lab cross, as that's what she is. I mean I could of course when asked (about 20 times a day) just say she's a mongrel, but that's not really helpful for someone wanting to know what breeds she's made up of is it?