To not understand the obsession with ‘doodle’ breeds

Incidentally, I was just checking out quotes for insurance and had to tick if my dog was a purebreed, a cross breed OR a mongrel. Therefore there does seem to be a distinction now. Things have moved on now that mixed breeds are no longer dogs of unknown parentage.

🏅here’s your medal for buying a golden retriever with excellent lineage. Congratulations on making a better choice than everyone else and thank you for bringing it to our attention 👏🏻

These threads are done to death

Not necessarily.

HAVING a pedigree and BEING a pedigree is not the same thing.

An animal can be given a pedigree certificate without being registered as a purebreed, provided both parents are pedigree animals.
I had a pedigree for my crossbreed cat.

Having a pedigree certificate - a written out or printed piece of paper with lineage on it - does not always indicate that an animal is purebred or registered.

My dogs are purebred and are registered as such. They are from working bloodlines and are also eligible for showing at breed club or championship shows under Kennel Club rules. This is BEING a pedigree.

My cat was a crossbreed, he was not registered and not eligible for show other than in pet classes. He did however had a pedigree certificate showing parentage because both his parents were registered show cats albeit different breeds. This is HAVING a pedigree. It is a piece of paper with stuff written on.

It is really quite simple...

This is called being objective and seeing both sides.

I did exactly this with my dog and the parents of litters I was considering. It was very interesting and I went down a massive rabbit hole for far too long 😂

I'm sure nobody needs clarification what a pedigree is. PP said "effective" meaning they know it's not officially recognised as such but after 7 generations of presumably healthy pups they're not just 2 dogs thrown together.

The poster didn't say IS a pedigree dog, she said HAS a pedigree.

Fire up google again - see what pedigree means.

Dr Google on Pedigree Dogs

A pedigree dog is the offspring of two dogs of the same breed, which is eligible for registration with a recognised club or society that maintain a register for dogs of that description. There are a number of pedigree dog registration schemes, of which is the most well known.

She's just a bigot, and is obsessed 😂

It can still have a pedigree.
We once had a cat that was the result of an accidental mating between a British Blue and a Russian Blue. Obviously he wasn't registered but the lady we got him from gave us a pedigree just so we could look at the bloodlines from both sides because sometimes it's interesting to see the origins. It's just like people tracing their ancestry, it can be fascinating.

As opposed to your logic where you breeze in and out of this thread, make claims with nothing to back them up other than hearsay from your friends in your cyber group/shelter/groomers.

You never did answer me anyway: do you think of your mongrel as a "real" dog or does it know it's place in the pecking order?

Doodle owner logic.

How can it have a pedigree? Both parents have to be the same breed.

Thanks. I'm not going potty then...😊

They didn't. You said they were wonderful too but you wanted an Irish breed. The other poster then asked why you thought they were a wonderful choice too when actually they're extinct.

Isn't that exactly what I've just pointed out? Never mind...

(And yes, I do know that IWS are not extinct, I have met several.)

I agree, I have both, a rescue pooX and pedigree dogs.
I believe a Tibetan Terrier has all the attributes people are looking in a Poodle X, but I am biased as I absolutely love the breed.

I hate dog snobbery. You can't call yourself a dog lover if you constantly judge other people's choice of dogs. Doodle mixes are not for me but my breed type would probably not be for them either.

It's the money thing. Apparently it was fine when mongrels were the result of irresponsible owners getting their dogs accidentally knocked up by God knows what, but if somebody wants to responsibly mate 2 purebreds as they know there's a market for them than that's unethical.

Obviously there are tons of dodgy breeders out there. I looked for a year before I got my pup and vetoed many. My pup was from a reputable breeder so I'm not contributing to doodles in rescues at all. Her breeder isn't doing it again and all 9 pups are in happy, secure homes for life.

If I hadn't been able to find a reputable breeder, would I have still gone for a doodle? Nope, I wouldn't. But I can't speak for the other owners and I'm sure there are many out there that aren't as meticulous as me when it comes to choosing a breeder. So yes, I'm glad these kind of breeders exist, as they're are stopping some people at least from going to a dodgy place/puppy farm.

Yes, I do realise that but I think the extinct comment actually referred to the Tweed Water Spaniel not the IWS.

If this is knocking all doodle crosses surely you are also effectively criticising poodles. You can't lump all doodle crosses into one category they can wildly differ depending what they are crossed with.

Before the doodle cross craze many people had mongrels and nobody ever criticised these en masse.

Our boy is a wonderful family pet and we wouldn't change him for the world. Yes he's not perfect but most dogs (and people for that matter) have the odd quirky trait. We've invested lots of time training him and he doesn't bound over to people on walks and jump on them as you describe.

Tweed Water Spaniel? It is extinct.