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Dd screams for hours if she doesn't get her own way

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whatswiththerain · 11/09/2024 20:06

We are so exhausted with it. We put her to bed and she (dd6) will demand a drink/snack/toy/phone and scream for hours refusing to go to bed until she gets what she wants.
Of course we try not to give in but she won't stop and there gets a point where we can't take any more and give in so when we try and be stronger the next time she just fights for longer.
It's every night and bedtime is just an example, tonight she had spaghetti bolognaise and wanted cheese on top she got that and ate the cheese first and screamed and refused to eat anymore without more cheese.
If we give a consequence she'll scream and scream about it and as much as we know giving in is the problem, it's become so much of a problem that it takes over the whole evening and nighttime until we are so exhausted with her we just have to give in because we have no energy left and need to go to bed.
I know we've done this ourselves but I don't know to change it now it's done.

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Nanny0gg · 11/09/2024 21:29

whatswiththerain · 11/09/2024 20:14

She is meant to have her friend come over on Saturday so we've said she won't get to but she shouts no and screams and fights about it, she has such anger and hatred in her and won't calm down until she gets her way.

She will if you hang in there

It will be very hard for the first week but you absolutely CANNOT give in

What happens at school when she doesn't get her way?

Baffled78 · 11/09/2024 21:29

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Hankunamatata · 11/09/2024 21:29

I watched a teenager this week scream in an adults face at a youth club type thing. Parent stood there and didn't do anything and then just brushed it off saying they are highly strung.
Don't be that parent because it will get to that point

somereallyniceadvice · 11/09/2024 21:27

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wtf are you on about? an adult woman who has never been raised properly.

Baffled78 · 11/09/2024 21:27

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DinosaurMunch · 11/09/2024 21:26

whatswiththerain · 11/09/2024 21:12

I'd read this somewhere before and every bedtime I sit with her and talk about how she feels and if anything is worrying her, all she says is she's sad because I won't let her do such and such eg take her phone to bed and tries to win me round before getting frustrated and screaming for her phone.

A six year old with her own phone? At bedtime??That is way too young and probably partly responsible for the behavioural issues. Phones are massively addictive and detrimental for young children. You can't expect a 6 year old child to manage that kind of addictive technology.
I would get rid of the phone right away. She can have one when she's in secondary. Don't give her any personal screens. Let her watch TV for max 1-2 hours per day and nothing else

WitchintheDitch · 11/09/2024 21:26

StartingANewNameToday · 11/09/2024 20:12

She's 6, not a baby. Tell her to pack it in, give her two warnings then scrape her dinner in the bin, carry her to her room and leave her there. She won't do it again.

100% this

PussInBin20 · 11/09/2024 21:26

I think you need to stick to your guns and put up with it for a couple of weeks until she gets the message. Don’t back down or she will continue to do it. I know it’s hard but you have to stick with it.

No pain no gain as they say.

BurbageBrook · 11/09/2024 21:26

Please don't let your child go to bed hungry like some 1950s parents on here have suggested. Dear lord.

Frenzi · 11/09/2024 21:26

I've just seen your comment about her taking her phone to bed with her. Please remove her phone. She doesnt need one.

Why does she even have a phone? Does she go out without you? Does she walk to school and back alone? Does she go out playing with her friends when
you arent there.

If the answer is no she doesnt need a phone. And please, please dont let her have social media. She is 6. Social media ruins childrens lives. Please let her have her childhood without the pressure of social media.

Changeiscomingthisyear · 11/09/2024 21:25

whatswiththerain · 11/09/2024 21:12

I'd read this somewhere before and every bedtime I sit with her and talk about how she feels and if anything is worrying her, all she says is she's sad because I won't let her do such and such eg take her phone to bed and tries to win me round before getting frustrated and screaming for her phone.

Your 6 year old doesn’t need a phone.

wellington77 · 11/09/2024 21:25

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She wants more cheese, she’s not in distress! Can’t even believe I just typed that… She’s being a madam and some boundaries need to be set

Flossyts · 11/09/2024 21:24

I really would get rid of the phone and ban things like YouTube in the house.

My daughter’s behaviour would dip significantly whenever she would watch things on the iPad- in particular YouTube. Don’t really know why but the difference in behaviour was marked. I know there have been studies on it.

Londonrach1 · 11/09/2024 21:24

Unless there's a back story just say no! Just had dd try and push what she wanted, she didn't want her salmon tea just food from the cupboard (snacks), she is aged 8... Dh and I just ignored her demands and she did eat it... honestly shocked aged 8 we suddenly got this again but friend told me it's another development stage so looking forward to that over the next few days..... Dh and I did united front on her behaviour and said no..its the salmon, potatoes and broccoli or nothing as she not hungry..dd was I'm so hungry I've no food....after 5 mins of whining that she had no food she ate her tea then a banana, apple and yogurt! Honestly children know your buttons to push....

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 11/09/2024 21:24

Earplugs? Let her scream and don’t give in. It’s learned behaviour- I scream - I get what I want. She has to unlearn that behaviour.

Lougle · 11/09/2024 21:24

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Because children need to be helped to develop into reasonable members of society, and children without boundaries are miserable and insecure.

Sunnysundayicecream · 11/09/2024 21:24

When my DS did this I used to just say urgh, mummy doesn't like screaming and walked out of the room. It didn't last long after that. If he did it at tea, I would just say oh you don't like your tea, I will put it away and move it back into the kitchen and not offer anything else. I think I was quite strict but tried not to get angry. However, I now have two lovely easy going teenagers.

oakleaffy · 11/09/2024 21:24

BurbageBrook · 11/09/2024 21:20

However- despite my above post - I do also believe in picking your battles. In this case, I'd probably just have given more cheese! I also like to re add cheese half way through eating my dinner.

So do I! Plenty of grated cheddar - Yum! {but not as a reward for screaming}

But mum used to put some in a bowl for us to sprinkle- when that was gone, it was gone, and no more would be forthcoming!

whatswiththerain · 11/09/2024 21:24

highlandcoo · 11/09/2024 20:54

My BIL is a very unpleasant selfish man who expects to always get his own way. He will get angry and verbally abusive and cut contact for long periods if everything isn't just how he wants it. It doesn't work with DH and me however he has caused MIL so much unhappiness over the years.

I've known him since he was a small child. One day, after a big bust-up, she asked me again and again why he was so selfish and nasty and didn't think of others. I gave her a couple of examples of how he'd ruled the household when he was little. (FIL was very meek and mild and would get a hard time from MIL if he tried to enforce any discipline).

Her answer: "He screamed and screamed until he got what he wanted so what could I do?" Says it all really.

One of my own kids was very "spirited" and I had to seriously take him on at the age of three. We had a few tough weeks until he realised he wasn't in charge of the family and he was a lovely boy from then on.

It can be done and you really have to do it, however hard at the time.

This is quite eye opening, I don't want her to grow up expecting to get her own way, she has such a cheeky endearing smile and sweet laugh that when she's happy it's quite hard to imagine she's the same child.

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Jom222 · 11/09/2024 21:23

You may need to just tough it out a few times to get her to accept she isn't the boss of the family and then the world which you know won't end well for her.

Keep in mind a concept called the extinction burst. Its when someone is accustomed to getting their way and learns that if they just ratchet up their bad behavior the other party will eventually cave to their demands.

So as you start forcing her to follow basic good behaviors she will begin to fight back even harder, and may seem even more out of control.

What you need to do is NOT GIVE IN. No matter what! You explain to her at a quiet time that her behavior is unacceptable and that from now on you expect her to do A, B, C and that she will not get her way by screaming, crying etc.

As you enforce the rules of home expect her to go over and above her usual antics. It will grow as you continue to enforce good behavior, she may cook up some new methods of parental torture.

It will culminate in an epic showdown one day or night where you must stay calm and detached. You treat her like a toddler-keep her safe but thats all. Do not react, do not engage. If you told her that when she screams at the dinner table you'll take her plate away, you do that. Then you put her in her bedroom. etc etc.

You just have to stay strong for a little while, it usually works fairly quickly but it may feel like a century! This is for her not you-you can't allow her to grow up to be a jerk, the world has too many already.

this article explains it better than I did if you're interested. Good luck! I know you can do it

https://www.goldenstepsaba.com/resources/extinction-burst-aba

*also I don't have children so I'm definitely making it sound easier than it probably is, I'm just some internet rando who has read about this topic so take my advice w/a grain of salt

Extinction Burst ABA

Unraveling the Extinction Burst ABA phenomenon in autism therapy. Explore strategies for managing and understanding these behavioral responses.

https://www.goldenstepsaba.com/resources/extinction-burst-aba

Parker231 · 11/09/2024 21:23

whatswiththerain · 11/09/2024 20:14

She is meant to have her friend come over on Saturday so we've said she won't get to but she shouts no and screams and fights about it, she has such anger and hatred in her and won't calm down until she gets her way.

Of course she won’t stop screaming - it gets her what she wants. If she starts screaming, give her a warning and if she continues she goes to her room. She’s a naughty girl who is now use to getting her own way.

Baffled78 · 11/09/2024 21:23

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Frenzi · 11/09/2024 21:23

I havent had time to read the whole thread so apologies if I am repeating something.

Being a parent of adopted children I was (am still am although they are now adults) a big advocat of theraputic parenting. And believe me, it does really work.

Stopping her friend from coming at the weekend is pointless - the punishment does not fit the crime. If she refuses to eat her food and makes a scene - just remove it. Tell her once if she doesnt eat it and keeps making a fuss then her meal time is over. She continues. Mealtime over. She will not starve by missing a couple of meals. Giv her supper - a couple of biscuits/one piece of toast is all she needs. Don't discuss it again. Tomorrow is another day. If she starts to create again at meal time - warn her and then meal time is over.

As hard as the screaming and shouting is - ignore it. Do not react. If you react she will continue to do it. Go in the kitchen, wash the pots, let her scream and shout. Go and fold some washing. Let her scream and shout. Do not reward the bad behaviour.

Stick with it. It will get better.

Starlight7080 · 11/09/2024 21:22

She doesn't have a phone does she? I would start with taking things off her for a while like phone/tablets.
Stick with the no. Ignore and get on with somthing else .

Hippywannabe · 11/09/2024 21:22

Why has your 6 year old got a phone? She isn't going to be going anywhere without an adult.