To be so upset about the stories in Julie In Gender land?

I just listened to the first two. It is so upsetting to hear, I just can't get over that this really happened. Shocking.

So glad Julie Bindel has made this programme. I cried when she told the parents at the end of episode two that they should stop blaming themselves, my heart was breaking for them.

Oh I get it, concerns about child safeguarding on a site for Mothers are getting in the way of you enjoying reading about cheeky fuckers.

What the fuckity fuck

How can you? actually? WHAT??

OP should shut the fuck up about this because it is in your way?

Sorry, YABFU.

Safeguarding kids is everyone's business and should be talked about openly

Can click and post on what I like, no? If OP wants certain responses, what's the point of the post? If I want to respond and say I think her post is unreasonable, I will. Whether you wanna get your knickers in a twist over it is up to you.

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Except you haven't actually engaged in discussion other than to say this topic shouldn't be discussed anywhere but FWR.

I agree that people think you are making stuff up when you talk to them about these issues because it seems so far fetched.

I was discussing the rainbow dildo butt monkey, who was entertaining children at libraries, with someone who clearly thought I was exaggerating. I then showed them the photo and saw the look of horror on their face when they realised I hadn't been exaggerating at all.

Totally agree.

I think part of the problem is it seems so far fetched.

We’ve also been fed a rainbows, and mermaids and unicorns , sparkly narrative where if we are not ‘kind’ then children will kill themselves.

Some of this is very hard to unpick and row back on. None more so than the families & children who’ve made life altering medical choices 😢. A lot of those people will never be able to admit they got this wrong.

I have honestly never been more shocked in my life than when I came across that.

It just shows you what is in the realms of possibility. As you say, not that long ago, in a country we deem perfectly civilised. Also notable that this is not talked about much.

For anyone who thinks that no one in power would ever tolerate the pushing of pedophile rights - I have a cautionary tale for you ...

https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/past-pedophile-links-haunt-german-green-party-a-899544.html

www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/07/26/the-german-experiment-that-placed-foster-children-with-pedophiles

Can click and post on what I like, no? If OP wants certain responses, what's the point of the post? If I want to respond and say I think her post is unreasonable, I will. Whether you wanna get your knickers in a twist over it is up to you.

I feel the same as you. I think people don't want to believe it though. That's why they get away with it.

Did you stumble onto the thread? What made you by pass 'cheeky fuckers and AIBUs' that you need to read

I agree, it's so bad. Those adults are culpable

The attempts to silence debate on this issue have always concerned me. What motives could anyone have to try to silence or suppress debate on an issue which is of paramount importance to the trans and the non-trans populations?

A very interesting question

Worth remembering this is a male led ideology that has been allowed to influence all our institutions using intimidation and bullying to enforce the lie that sex change is possible & desirable. And to gaslight a generation of often mentally vulnerable children, many of who are now mutilating their bodies and harming their minds in a desperate attempt to "change sex".

The failure of the trusted adults in the NHS, schools, social care, psychology etc to safeguard children and young people from this lie is unforgivable.

It really is.

The activist NGO sector have been laying the groundwork on this for years. How much influence have stonewall, mermaids and similar had here over the years.

A big issue is that all these orgs have mistaken advocacy for expertise

Worth remembering this is a male led ideology that has been allowed to influence all our institutions using intimidation and bullying to enforce the lie that sex change is possible & desirable. And to gaslight a generation of often mentally vulnerable children, many of who are now mutilating their bodies and harming their minds in a desperate attempt to "change sex".

The failure of the trusted adults in the NHS, schools, social care, psychology etc to safeguard children and young people from this lie is unforgivable.

Well done to Julie for making this chilling series and exposing the grim reality of what's happening.

What’s that Latin quote “quis custodiet ipsos custodes?” - who guards the guards? Who is passing this dangerous ideology off as inclusive and great for children, and why are so many mindlessly going along with it. Human nature, and so many people’s unquestioning natures being taken advantage of.

That's a very good question and my answer is that it crept in through the back door of 'tolerance'.

To clarify (I left out the part relevant to this thread!) I think there is a huge amount of rot in all these services and organisations working with children, and there’s a huge amount of distrust towards parents, and a superiority amongst many workers moving in to save these poor children, when in reality most parents are simply trying their best in very difficult circumstances.

In my experience they also tend to be people who don’t really question guidelines, which explains how we have arrived in this situation in the first place. This is not meant as a criticism at all, but I can see how easily big organisations have fallen for gender ideology without even blinking.

What’s that Latin quote “quis custodiet ipsos custodes?” - who guards the guards? Who is passing this dangerous ideology off as inclusive and great for children, and why are so many mindlessly going along with it. Human nature, and so many people’s unquestioning natures being taken advantage of.

Yes she asked and I answered that's how this works 👍🏻

And if you’re telling the OP she’s being unreasonable then surely she’s on the right board.

You win the thread @AccidentallyWesAnderson