Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Original poster

To ask if anyone is clued up on the challenge this week to VAT on school fees?

967 replies

feesss · 10/09/2024 14:18

we went to look round a school this morning and we obviously asked about VAT and the lady showing us round said there has been a challenge this week so it may not happen? Is anyone aware of this? I can’t see much online about it?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
25
twistyizzy · 26/10/2024 07:58

BotanicalGreen · 25/10/2024 21:40

Our village prep car park is wall to wall with Range Rovers and Teslas. Maybe it depends where you live?

Of course it does and wealth will also be represented in state schools. To make sweeping assumptions based on a car is lazy. But hey Labour capitalised on that sort of thinking during the election and carried that on into government.
Sadly, many people including posters on MN bought into it. Always much easier to blame 1 section of society than to come up with meaningful policies for the majority.

Gingerbee · 26/10/2024 00:04

BotanicalGreen · 25/10/2024 21:40

Our village prep car park is wall to wall with Range Rovers and Teslas. Maybe it depends where you live?

Think we must live in the same village.

Meadowfinch · 25/10/2024 23:08

BotanicalGreen · 25/10/2024 21:40

Our village prep car park is wall to wall with Range Rovers and Teslas. Maybe it depends where you live?

I think it must.

Ours is full of muddy farm landrovers, and battered hatchbacks.

BotanicalGreen · 25/10/2024 21:40

Our village prep car park is wall to wall with Range Rovers and Teslas. Maybe it depends where you live?

RhaenysRocks · 25/10/2024 18:54

That I'm still paying off over 5 years.

RhaenysRocks · 25/10/2024 18:53

Oh and my car is an 11 year old Skoda that cost 8k.

RhaenysRocks · 25/10/2024 18:52

@WhosPink I don't need you to lose sleep over my kids thanks, but it would be nice if so many people didn't assume they are deserving of spite and sneers because their unmet MH and SEN needs mean I'm in massive debt to put them in private school and I'm hugely stressed about how to see them through. A "tiny minority" is irrelevant until you're part of it.

twistyizzy · 25/10/2024 18:49

Hoppinggreen · 25/10/2024 18:42

Ds walks to school

Show quote history

You would really confuse them

Hoppinggreen · 25/10/2024 18:42

twistyizzy · 25/10/2024 17:36

Which school would you assume we use based on my 10 Yr old Kia?

Show quote history

Ds walks to school

twistyizzy · 25/10/2024 17:36

WhosPink · 25/10/2024 16:21

At the end of the day this was a manifesto promise and Labour just got elected with a thumping majority. It's hardly Thatcher and the miners. Outside of a vocal minority, no-one cares. The only time I have any contact with people who send their children to private school is getting splashed by a speeding Range Rover when I'm walking to the village infants so frankly I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Show quote history

Which school would you assume we use based on my 10 Yr old Kia?

twistyizzy · 25/10/2024 17:34

WhosPink · 25/10/2024 16:21

At the end of the day this was a manifesto promise and Labour just got elected with a thumping majority. It's hardly Thatcher and the miners. Outside of a vocal minority, no-one cares. The only time I have any contact with people who send their children to private school is getting splashed by a speeding Range Rover when I'm walking to the village infants so frankly I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Show quote history

Do they have number plates that read "private school parent"? Genuinely how do you know which school someone sends their kids to as they drive past?
There are way more Range Rovers at the local state secondary school Vs DDs indy school. Most popular cars at the Indy are Skodas or Volkswagens.

Mrsbabbecho · 25/10/2024 16:34

WhosPink · 25/10/2024 16:21

At the end of the day this was a manifesto promise and Labour just got elected with a thumping majority. It's hardly Thatcher and the miners. Outside of a vocal minority, no-one cares. The only time I have any contact with people who send their children to private school is getting splashed by a speeding Range Rover when I'm walking to the village infants so frankly I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Show quote history

I don’t think there’s any shame in not caring about issues around education until they affect your own kids. It’s probably how most people feel.

SerendipityJane · 25/10/2024 16:30

Highly irresponsible of whomever was showing you around to mention the court case as a realistic prospect of changing the inevitability of VAT being applied.

Not if their job depends on getting sales subscriptions ....

EasternStandard · 25/10/2024 16:25

WhosPink · 25/10/2024 16:21

At the end of the day this was a manifesto promise and Labour just got elected with a thumping majority. It's hardly Thatcher and the miners. Outside of a vocal minority, no-one cares. The only time I have any contact with people who send their children to private school is getting splashed by a speeding Range Rover when I'm walking to the village infants so frankly I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Show quote history

That lack of interest doesn't help it stop being a very poor policy with damaging outcomes. Already shown below.

WhosPink · 25/10/2024 16:21

Mrsbabbecho · 25/10/2024 13:39

‘Some parents are clutching at straws, others are acting purely from a business perspective.’
Erm yes obviously I’m being obtuse, this right here is an argument for improving education options not diluting them. I think you just got carried a bit away with the thought of upsetting those 6 year old prep school girls who have held you back your entire life, that you temporarily forgot how to type. It’s ok. Nobody’s perfect, I also make mistakes.

Its really not just a vocal minority on mumsnet, people are furious. It’s just losers like me who have some free time whilst travelling are bothering to argue. Messing with peoples kids like this is way way over the line, the divisive consequences of pushing this policy will come at some point and that’s whether it’s implemented or not.

Edited
Show quote history

At the end of the day this was a manifesto promise and Labour just got elected with a thumping majority. It's hardly Thatcher and the miners. Outside of a vocal minority, no-one cares. The only time I have any contact with people who send their children to private school is getting splashed by a speeding Range Rover when I'm walking to the village infants so frankly I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

EasternStandard · 25/10/2024 16:12

twistyizzy · 25/10/2024 13:45

We did, we were told we were lying or using SEN to promote our own privilege

Show quote history

£10.7bn on SEN and this policy will mean more is needed. I can't believe people bought it

twistyizzy · 25/10/2024 13:45

EasternStandard · 25/10/2024 13:41

Madness. Pp said it would be the case

Show quote history

We did, we were told we were lying or using SEN to promote our own privilege

EasternStandard · 25/10/2024 13:41

twistyizzy · 25/10/2024 12:34

https://inews.co.uk/news/private-school-vat-fees-send-funding-requests-parents-3339558?srsltid=AfmBOorPdw6vYA2ySEiIMIHjxDMkefAn8n6q9E3c80ykGXCifUeqhKeV

Show quote history

Madness. Pp said it would be the case

Mrsbabbecho · 25/10/2024 13:39

Willyoujustbequiet · 25/10/2024 11:49

You have to read it in context of the entire post. Unless of course you were being deliberately obtuse.

Some parents are clutching at straws. It's not all parents clearly as some private school parents don't have an issue with this policy. It seems to be only a vocal minority on mumsnet.

Show quote history

‘Some parents are clutching at straws, others are acting purely from a business perspective.’
Erm yes obviously I’m being obtuse, this right here is an argument for improving education options not diluting them. I think you just got carried a bit away with the thought of upsetting those 6 year old prep school girls who have held you back your entire life, that you temporarily forgot how to type. It’s ok. Nobody’s perfect, I also make mistakes.

Its really not just a vocal minority on mumsnet, people are furious. It’s just losers like me who have some free time whilst travelling are bothering to argue. Messing with peoples kids like this is way way over the line, the divisive consequences of pushing this policy will come at some point and that’s whether it’s implemented or not.

twistyizzy · 25/10/2024 13:03

Willyoujustbequiet · 25/10/2024 12:51

Many councils are in a vulnerable position because of years of Tory underfunding. So its rather ironic its going to come back and bite their own supporters. Its shameful how chronic state underfunding of SEND doesn't appear to be a problem until it affects private parents.

Other than that I've seen links on here to contradict articles such as yours. I don't believe for one moment there will be a deluge. The majority will just suck it up as they can afford to. They just don't want to.

Show quote history

Then it's clear you don't understand the complexities of the sector, ans you don't want to. You've just bought into the stereotypes that Labour perpetuated.
I can give you 1000s of examples but I'm not wasting my energy.

Willyoujustbequiet · 25/10/2024 12:51

twistyizzy · 25/10/2024 12:34

https://inews.co.uk/news/private-school-vat-fees-send-funding-requests-parents-3339558?srsltid=AfmBOorPdw6vYA2ySEiIMIHjxDMkefAn8n6q9E3c80ykGXCifUeqhKeV

Show quote history

Many councils are in a vulnerable position because of years of Tory underfunding. So its rather ironic its going to come back and bite their own supporters. Its shameful how chronic state underfunding of SEND doesn't appear to be a problem until it affects private parents.

Other than that I've seen links on here to contradict articles such as yours. I don't believe for one moment there will be a deluge. The majority will just suck it up as they can afford to. They just don't want to.

Willyoujustbequiet · 25/10/2024 12:30

twistyizzy · 25/10/2024 12:04

Actually there are over 200,000 parents who are opposing this policy.
Plus accountancy firms, NASWUT, headteacher union, SEN charities, military organisations who represent families, tax experts etc.
IFS now says it won't raise anything, Labour also now caught saying it may not even go into state education.

Show quote history

And millions support it. It's going to happen.

If they won't back down on pensioners they certainly won't on the wealthiest and least vulnerable.

DdraigGoch · 25/10/2024 12:24

Nacknick · 24/10/2024 13:53

Surely the fact that such schools charge fees at all is a far bigger barrier than the application of tax to those fees?

Sounds like an argument for education vouchers.

twistyizzy · 25/10/2024 12:04

Willyoujustbequiet · 25/10/2024 11:49

You have to read it in context of the entire post. Unless of course you were being deliberately obtuse.

Some parents are clutching at straws. It's not all parents clearly as some private school parents don't have an issue with this policy. It seems to be only a vocal minority on mumsnet.

Show quote history

Actually there are over 200,000 parents who are opposing this policy.
Plus accountancy firms, NASWUT, headteacher union, SEN charities, military organisations who represent families, tax experts etc.
IFS now says it won't raise anything, Labour also now caught saying it may not even go into state education.

Swipe left for the next trending thread