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Is it possible to be 43 and NOT be perimenopausal

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Improbablywrong · 10/09/2024 09:46

I don’t have any symptoms except that I feel more agitation around my period. Always been like that actually but just a little worse, although we do have other stresses.

Not a single other symptom. My periods are regular as clockwork and have not changed in anyway. I had a blood test done recently and all came back normal.

And yet every single friend I have (same age as me) is talking about perimenopause as if it’s 100% definitely that we are all in it and it is to blame for everything. Bad day at work? Perimenopause. Did a big fart? Perimenopause. Itchy armpit? Perimenopause.

I can’t relate and I find it kind of catastrophising very normal things. When the real symptoms come, how will they feel then? When I say oh no, I don’t think it’s perimenopause as I don’t have symptoms, they’ll list all these things that I don’t think are symptoms.

so, is it possible to actually NOT be perimenopausal as soon as you hit 40?

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MrTwatchester · 10/09/2024 12:38

No OP, it's not possible. In our 40s, every single ache, itch, frustration, hangover, getting irritated in a Teams meeting, is due to perimenopause. Or ADHD.

feelsbadouthere · 10/09/2024 12:38

Almost 47 here. Periods still regular. My hairs falling out a bit and i have put on weight (probably my diet) but no brain fog or hot flushes. I've been knackered since 30 (first baby).

spikeandbuffy · 10/09/2024 12:33

CultOfRamen · 10/09/2024 11:11

I’m only 36 and people are starting to sling this at me already.

I got it from about 37
I'm not peri, I have stage 4 endo so glad they checked out my symptoms

MrsSlocombesCat · 10/09/2024 12:30

I didn’t get any perimenopause symptoms. I woke up one day with the first UTI I had ever had when I was 54. I kept getting them and also hot flushes and my periods were very irregular. I was in actual menopause before I noticed anything.

Improbablywrong · 10/09/2024 12:30

Agreed. eventually “she’ll learn”

And I will, it’ll come to us all. But not today and that’s the point, I am not perimenopausal just because people say I am.

it’s like everyone cannot wait to say “actually! I think you’ll find xyz” it’s not a competition. Can we not just immediately assume all women are at the mercy of her hormones just because she’s over 40.

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BumpyaDaisyevna · 10/09/2024 12:27

Of course it is possible! I have just turned 50 and I would only say I have been feeling a bit peri in the last 6-9 months.

My mother and grandmother were the same - last periods not until 56/57 respectively!

Improbablywrong · 10/09/2024 12:25

most people with depression would not be undermining every unrelated health issue I have or even every unrelated emotion I have, by claiming that I am depressed too. Or that I am simply unaware of what’s happening to me.

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Catza · 10/09/2024 12:24

Improbablywrong · 10/09/2024 10:59

It’s a yeast infection - you could still be menopausal
I literally have a child in my womb - you could still be menopausal
i have periods I could set my clock by - you could still be menopausal
I’m not yet 40 - you could still be menopausal

Id really like to experience an emotion without being told it’s not real, it’s actually just my womb

OP, I get what you are saying as a woman who is not peri-menopausal. However, you may find as the time goes on that when you are peri, medical professionals will dismiss most of your symptoms as something else entirely and you will have a right fight on your hands to get anyone as much as do a blood test for you.
So no, I don't think everything can be dismissed as peri but I also welcome some publicity around the subject and women willing to advocate for themselves.

Poppins21 · 10/09/2024 12:23

RedToothBrush · 10/09/2024 12:21

That's actually really offensive to women who have had real issues.

I think it worthwhile pointing out not everyone will have issues but for some, those issues can be very significant.

Women most likely to have issues are interesting. If you had post natal depression or are neuro-diverse apparently it's more likely that you will have issues.

As I said upthread suicide rates peak during the perimenopause period too.

You would not be making similar utterly dismissive comments to this about regarding depression without being rightly taken to task over it.

The same applies here.

I didn’t know that ND or post natal depression showed a link with menopause symptoms. Is there any link with heavy periods and more severe menopause?

RedToothBrush · 10/09/2024 12:21

Improbablywrong · 10/09/2024 12:13

In fact the more I talk about this the more it feels like mansplaining but from other women.

That's actually really offensive to women who have had real issues.

I think it worthwhile pointing out not everyone will have issues but for some, those issues can be very significant.

Women most likely to have issues are interesting. If you had post natal depression or are neuro-diverse apparently it's more likely that you will have issues.

As I said upthread suicide rates peak during the perimenopause period too.

You would not be making similar utterly dismissive comments to this about regarding depression without being rightly taken to task over it.

The same applies here.

Improbablywrong · 10/09/2024 12:17

You’re right, I’ll be sure to send you a full rundown of my £££ hormone balance sheet that some clinic sells me based on a culture of fear, health anxiety and keeping women in control by basing all their health problems on their womb - even then you’ll tell me it must be wrong 🤣

we are doing it to each other; right here on this thread

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catin8oots · 10/09/2024 12:16

Oh Mumsnet has diagnosed everyone over the age of 38 as peri over the last few years.

timenowplease · 10/09/2024 12:14

Improbablywrong · 10/09/2024 12:13

In fact the more I talk about this the more it feels like mansplaining but from other women.

Nah, you just don't like what you're hearing.

Improbablywrong · 10/09/2024 12:13

In fact the more I talk about this the more it feels like mansplaining but from other women.

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Improbablywrong · 10/09/2024 12:11

MySocksAreDotty · 10/09/2024 12:05

Who exactly is telling you that you're in peri, though? Nice guidelines for Drs state HRT from 45 and even then it can be hard to get. So it doesn't ring true that your Dr is blaming peri for your ailments.

Is it more your friends? Fair enough if you're bored I guess, but it's such a short time women have actually been 'allowed' to talk about menopause at all. I'd hate a backlash to start already.

Every woman I know is talking about it. Bad nights sleep, needing a wee, “oooh it must be my menopause coming”

could be a million things but let’s just immediately to the thing that held women down for decades - their hormones.

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RedToothBrush · 10/09/2024 12:09

Also I do find it very interesting the number of women who start HRT and then realise with the benefit of hindsight how much of a boiled frog they've been.

I don't think we should dismiss this lightly either.

Improbablywrong · 10/09/2024 12:09

I know that it’s not all emotional. Which is why when I say have none of the symptoms, my friends (and women at large) are here to tell me that I’m wrong and just don’t know. I’ve said in my opening post that farts, and itching are included. They aren’t emotional. I’m aware there are several other symptoms, I’ve mentioned dry mouth, not sleeping etc.

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RedToothBrush · 10/09/2024 12:08

IfARedFlagWereAPerson · 10/09/2024 11:39

Sorry, OP - but you say you know what it is, but you agreed with the post about regular periods, which means you actually might not.

I am not invested in whether you are/aren't in peri. I truly don't care and absolutely agree with you that it's likely used to fob women off. But it's also missed when women don't know what the symptoms are, and you are one of those women who don't know.

You can have regular periods and be peri.
You can have a baby and be peri.
You are fertile until the day your periods stop, so why people think one cancels the other out is extraordinary.

I am not trying to be argumentative, I just feel strongly about misinformation regarding peri/menopause. If you aren't affected that's great, many are and it's important we keep information correct.

Edited

I agree.

Whilst I think it is important that we don't attribute everything to perimenopause, I also find the lack of good knowledge about it on this thread somewhat alarming too.

A lot of women are being phobed off by doctors for it not being perimenopause when they shouldn't be as much as those are being told it is when it's not.

Neither is ok. Both extremes demonstrate significant ignorance about the subject still.

MySocksAreDotty · 10/09/2024 12:05

Who exactly is telling you that you're in peri, though? Nice guidelines for Drs state HRT from 45 and even then it can be hard to get. So it doesn't ring true that your Dr is blaming peri for your ailments.

Is it more your friends? Fair enough if you're bored I guess, but it's such a short time women have actually been 'allowed' to talk about menopause at all. I'd hate a backlash to start already.

SallyWD · 10/09/2024 12:03

As others have said, it is perfectly possible not to experience perimenopausal symptoms at 43 - some people never do!
What I would say is that perimenopause creeps up on you, and often you don't realise it's happening. It's not like one day you're fine and the next day you have irregular periods, migraines, panic attacks, low mood, poor sleep etc. I've found that I might have one symptom for a few weeks, then that disappears, and then I have a different symptom. In isolation, none of these symptoms would make me think I was perimenopausal, but when I look at the pattern of symptoms over several years, then I can how it all relates to hormonal fluctuations.
For example, I might feel a bit flat for a few weeks, and I think, "Am I getting depressed, oh no, it's just because works been so busy, I'm tired, etc." Then I feel normal again. Then I might have a week or so of bad sleep and I can always explain it away andvfind reasons why. A few months later I might find myself feeling quite panicky in certain situations but then it stops, and I feel normal again. It's all quite odd. It comes and goes and sometimes you think you're just imagining it, and others times you feel like a mess.

timenowplease · 10/09/2024 12:03

Improbablywrong · 10/09/2024 12:00

“you’d think so” is what I said.

you are one of those women who don't know

Given that I am the one living in my skin, and my body, and feeling my emotions I DO KNOW.

You are welcome to put together a handy PowerPoint for me; but it still wont change my hormone levels or make me any more perimenopausal than I was before.

Telling women they don’t know their own bodies is all I’m hearing.

The fact that you think it's all emotional is a good indication that you actually don't know,

Improbablywrong · 10/09/2024 12:00

IfARedFlagWereAPerson · 10/09/2024 11:39

Sorry, OP - but you say you know what it is, but you agreed with the post about regular periods, which means you actually might not.

I am not invested in whether you are/aren't in peri. I truly don't care and absolutely agree with you that it's likely used to fob women off. But it's also missed when women don't know what the symptoms are, and you are one of those women who don't know.

You can have regular periods and be peri.
You can have a baby and be peri.
You are fertile until the day your periods stop, so why people think one cancels the other out is extraordinary.

I am not trying to be argumentative, I just feel strongly about misinformation regarding peri/menopause. If you aren't affected that's great, many are and it's important we keep information correct.

Edited

“you’d think so” is what I said.

you are one of those women who don't know

Given that I am the one living in my skin, and my body, and feeling my emotions I DO KNOW.

You are welcome to put together a handy PowerPoint for me; but it still wont change my hormone levels or make me any more perimenopausal than I was before.

Telling women they don’t know their own bodies is all I’m hearing.

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EBearhug · 10/09/2024 11:54

It can be difficult to know. Many symptoms are relevant to other things, too. Insomnia - yes, it might be down to peri, but it's also been my body's go-to stress response since I was at school, and my stress levels are high lately. My ankles (or my right one in particular) have been prone to aching since a series of injuries in my early 20s. And feeling anger is probably a perfectly reasonable response to the world these days.

My periods started going irregular when I was 49. Now 52. The last one (about 2 months ago) could have been the last one ever, or it might just be spacing things out. But I've friends who've had really debilitating symptoms and HRT has been a great help to them. I don't know that I might yet have those symptoms and need HRT - I just haven't yet.

Puberty didn't start with your first period. Peri is the same in the other direction. And we're all different. So you might not be there yet, or you might be in early days. You may sail through symptom-free, or you might find it difficult. None of us knows till we get there.

Poppins21 · 10/09/2024 11:52

I am 48 and I have not seen any signs of it. I still have regular periods every 28 days with a light flow for 3-4 days same as I have always had. No hot flushes or the brain fog that is commonly reported.

I have friends younger who have symptoms but it’s an age range not by an age -if you get what mean.

12345mummy · 10/09/2024 11:52

Research PMDD OP. Similar age, not sure if peri, periods have gone slightly irregular. But OMG my symptoms before and after my period are worse than ever and I think it’s PMDD poss brought on by hormone changes.