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To ask what you think when you see a young, fat person?

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AugustSlippedAwayIntoAMoment · 09/09/2024 07:09

I'm very, very aware that this thread will probably get some nasty responses.

But I'm young (26), overweight and short. I try to dress nicely and I'm actively losing weight, but I'm just curious. What do you actually think when you see a fat person? I've never given it much thought before now as I've been fat my entire life, but what do you really think? Am I walking round oblivious to the fact I'm being judged all the time or do people just not care?

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coxesorangepippin · 09/09/2024 18:16

That their life would be SO much better if they were slimmer

It really is a different world

I speak from experience

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Omg yes ad hoc basis and like cheese more, what else are you going to dig up my tax returns. I've obviously hit a nerve with my comments - sorry about that. Well done for your self discipline and not eating a second slice of cake - a true achievement in life!

BobbyBiscuits · 09/09/2024 18:14

Unless they were needing a walking frame/mobility scooter/breathing equipment or housebound purely due to their excessive obesity I doubt I'd notice their size as an issue. If they were as severe as I described then I'd feel a lot of sympathy.

People come in all shapes and sizes.

If someone looks visibly unwell through excessive weight or extreme anorexia then I suppose I feel a bit sad and shocked. And feel something bad must have happened in their life.

But I try really hard not to judge people on appearances. I certainly wouldn't think someone was horrible or unappealing as a person just bc they weren't average height and weight.

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How has it revealed that, you just don't agree with me abd you have constructed that narrative, I'm just utterly baffled as to the 'notice' people take over the appearance of others all along knowing that being very thin is not 'natural' to many. You would help those fatties that you feel sorry and concern for a lot more I'd you admitted the level of effort involved 😄

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Goldenbear · 09/09/2024 18:02

I think and 'know' how all consuming it is on your 40s yes and every woman I know who has maintained her weight from her 20s at this age is not just on the exercise bike for 30 minutes. I walk quickly and at length most days but it is lots of time to maintain let alone lose weight compared to on my 30s and 20s. People I know who don't do this eat one meal a day. So yes, denial denial denial seems the theme of your 40s and I don't equate this with happiness.

My sister is in her 40s. She's the same weight as she was all her life and she's had 3 kids. She has a similar exercise routine to me and eats the same as I do, basically. Homecooked and nutritious. She's absolutely not starving herself or working herself to the bone.

I'm in my 30s with kids. I can still fit into a dress I wore for my 21st birthday. I don't do anything special other than eat well and exercise.

Stop making excuses. If you're happier not exercising and eating what you are, just do yourself a favour and accept it.

Dogdaysareoverihope · 09/09/2024 18:09

I think a lot of people on this thread are saying what they’d like to think they think..

there’s lots of ‘ I see the beauty in all living things’ kind of response.

and to be fair, I don’t thinkI consciously give it much thought.

however, I have a couple of friends who lost a lot of weight and they say they went from invisible to visible and couldn’t believe the difference in the way they were treated. People paid attention to them. And people were much nicer to them.

im sure if you asked all the rude people who ignored them when they were over weight, they’d not even consciously realise what they were doing. Likewise, the people who paid them attention when they were slim would deny they’d judged someone favourably for being thin.

but there’s definitely a difference in perception

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Goldenbear · 09/09/2024 17:30

I personally think it is more than that the people I know who say this are hiding eating disorders and it makes them feel a bit better about their control.

So you are suggesting that people that are a healthy weight have eating disorders! Bonkers!

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Which is worryingly stalkerish but also not that many as I know quite a few are on politics.

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Patcherdog · 09/09/2024 18:02

My BMI is normal, ie 21 / 22 and I don't starve myself at all. I don't think many slim people do. I think they probably just have the right balance of calories and exercise. They shouldn't be castigated for having a healthy lifestyle or for anyone to suggest that they pretend they eat normally when they are really on starvation rations.

A normal BMI is not really what I was referring to I was actually referring to the very thin.

Goldenbear · 09/09/2024 18:02

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I think and 'know' how all consuming it is on your 40s yes and every woman I know who has maintained her weight from her 20s at this age is not just on the exercise bike for 30 minutes. I walk quickly and at length most days but it is lots of time to maintain let alone lose weight compared to on my 30s and 20s. People I know who don't do this eat one meal a day. So yes, denial denial denial seems the theme of your 40s and I don't equate this with happiness.

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Goldenbear · 09/09/2024 17:02

What I also think it is counter productive is very thin people claiming that eat all and sundry as it is just a fabrication 9/10 that doesn't help overweight people, many very thin people approaching middle age don't eat much especially if women. I think it is a control thing, it is waiting to feel a bit superior suggesting it is effortless but it isn't and actually would be kinder to say to someone overweight that honestly I don't eat that much!

My BMI is normal, ie 21 / 22 and I don't starve myself at all. I don't think many slim people do. I think they probably just have the right balance of calories and exercise. They shouldn't be castigated for having a healthy lifestyle or for anyone to suggest that they pretend they eat normally when they are really on starvation rations.

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Holidayhell22 · 09/09/2024 17:59

I do agree that thin people are almost forced into saying ‘I’m just lucky, I’m naturally thin.’
I’ve been what a lot of people would regard as thin. Although on here some posters are insisting it isn’t thin but hey ho.
I was asked if I’m naturally thin and I would find myself nodding along when in actual fact, no I’m not naturally thin. I had to work damned hard at it. I really enjoyed the results so thinking long and hard about my food and drink choices, exercising a lot was a determined effort. I exercised hard daily. I don’t just mean walking about a bit, but doing specific, sustained activities sometimes alone often with other like minded people who did it to build muscle/burn maximum calories etc. Eating high value foods. So no to burger and fries, yes to fresh fish and vegetables.
I had people come to an exercise session thinking they would give it a go and be the same size as me. Most of them only came once, they were under the illusion that it was a walk in the park when it absolutely wasn’t.
People don’t want to hear that though.
They prefer to think it’s all down to luck.

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I've been on here for 18 years so you'd think so wouldn't you. So yes, perfectly capable of balancing the time.

What about the post, I was genuinely asking as it is frustrating and wanted to know if it was worth the stress of worrying about it or whether it comes down to genes like being naturally thin does. weird and creepy that you have bothered to AS me by the way.

GiddyRobin · 09/09/2024 17:56

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I think so, too. I suppose it just proves the point she's trying to argue against really.

Some people really don't want to put the effort in. And that's fine, but the lying about it just odd.

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Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 09/09/2024 17:53

Hope I don't get blasted for this, it is just an honest answer.

I think they are fat, disgusting and how did they let themselves get into so much of a state. Doesn't matter what age they are, unless they are very young then I think their parents are neglectful.

If I see someone who is fat because of obvious medical issues such as lipedema, moon face from steroid dependency etc I feel so much sympathy for them because they are stuck with an awful condition through no fault of their own.

I know obesity is complex, I know my awful thoughts are all social conditioning and mostly I know they are a projection of how I feel about my big fat morbidly obese self.

I am fortunate enough to be able to self fund weight loss injections and taking them now, I really hope they get me to a healthy weight (or at least "just" overweight) for the first time in decades, but I have a long way to go and once I do get there (positive thinking!) and begin to like myself a bit, I hope I stop projecting and will have a very different perception of others and their struggles.

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GiddyRobin · 09/09/2024 17:52

Goldenbear · 09/09/2024 17:46

I don't like cake so no but maybe cheese, yes, I haven't changed how I eat but my metabolism has changed in last three years so I know 40s is a choice often, to have the cheese or not have it all, the choice is not to have second round of cheese. To go sea swimming, the gym and running and to have the cheese or not do excessive exercise, go to an Art Gallery or go and see a Play with that time and don't have the cheese if you want to lose weight. Tbh I am under investigation for ovarian issues so I don't often eat loads but have put weight on rapidly.

You realise it's possible to do both? You can do a YouTube exercise video, or sit on a stationary bike for half an hour a day and still go to watch a play or visit a museum.

It's not all or nothing, nor is it obsessive. I don't think about exercising outside of the times I am exercising or if someone brings it up.

Also, if you don't want to do the work then that's fine too. Your body. But do stop being so silly and acting like everyone else who puts in the effort can't also live a rounded life. You're only making your own argument sound weak.

Sorry to hear about your health issues, though.