To ask what you think when you see a young, fat person?

Also, I am agreeing with you it isn't a secret the truth is exercise is needed or massive food reduction in your forties that's my expectations with the woman I know and I am friends with lots of women. Respectfully you are in your thirties and I didn't have to try that hard then.

OMG how sanctimonious are you. I have literally been thin and very thin, I exercise like I did in my twenties and thirties but is is not enough now and something has changed and it is a real battle to even maintain, let alone lose weight this in the last 2-3 years. The efforts and sacrifices needed are excessive I have found to lose weight so it starts to become too time consuming and I am not sure this is balance at all and not a good example to my teens. My teens are skinny and my eldest eats junk as much as he wants when he wants but at the end of the day he is nearly a man and he can decide this to some extent. I have always fed them well balanced meals as does my DH who is an amazing cook but as a PP said for us that hasn't meant weight loss, the food is loads blander for that.

We do live and put the effort in, that is. Not that we starve ourselves silly which is how that bit sort of reads. 😆 Too much mumsnet for one day, I think.

When I see a really overweight person, I wonder what awful trauma they've been through.

But maybe I'm projecting, because that was me in my 20s (obese and depressed). I'm slim/healthy now but I have no judgement on anyone.

It's not an extensive exercise routine. I wake up early, before everyone else, workout, then shower and start my day. I have children and work full time.

It doesn't make me a good person. It just means that I prioritise my health, and also try to set good examples for my children. Same with the food I cook, the books I make sure they have access to, the sports I offer them, the instrument lessons I also offer, so on and so forth. I'm teaching balance from a very young age.

It's not hard, because that's how I live myself.

If you don't want to do that for yourself, by all means - don't. But don't act like it's this wild secret fit and healthy people are keeping from you that just isn't available, or that they don't have to put the effort in every day or starve ourselves silly and not live. We do. That's a choice we make.

Well good for you, you are a better person than me as I can't fit work in, DC and extensive exercise routines but I probably could of I tried to be as good q person as you are!

Oh apologies, I thought you'd posted that you were naturally thin.

And yes I have posted loads more than nailclipper as I have been on MN since 2006! Nailclipper seeming has made 28 posts. Hilarious

Worry for their health /future. But that's just my Dr hat ruling everything, think the same for smokers and ant other poorly controlled health condition like diabetes

Also, I have just AS my own account as I can't recall saying I liked cake so much as I don't and found that nailclipper has edited my post to read that I very much like cake and I have not stayed that at all in fact on another thread on 2019 I have played this:

By Goldenbear
26/08/2019 13:47
We have a cake club at work and withdrew membership as I am not a massive fan of cake, they all had

I have never called myself naturally thin at all. By that measure then there would be people that are naturally fat. I do not believe that to be the case. Of course there are different body shapes, and genetics that may predetermine where any weight will be distributed. I do not have a large appetite, pure, and simple, so I do not overeat, hence I deduce, why I am slim. I don't say anything different to anybody who would care to know my "secret".

Says who? I read every day. I'd struggle to be friends with people who aren't readers, because I love conversations about books. There are whole online communities even built around reading. In person book groups. On Instagram and TikTok (I'm not on these but I know they're popular), there are swathes of people obsessed with certain genres. There are literary festivals. One look on Etsy and there's so much merchandise made for the classics alone.

This is just another flippant comment of yours that you're delivering like stone cold fact, and it's really highlighting ignorance.

@nailclipper
What’s the point of this? I’m sure we all make throwaway comments here and there. It’s not a big deal.

So a small appetite is any you are thin then not exactly a scientific mystery. When do you hear people say that, to say you are naturally thin makes people think you don't have to try not because you don't eat much.

I've seen a few young women recently who I reckon are probably obese wearing crop tops, or other skimpy clothes and I have thought how great it is that they can buy the clothes they want and feel confident enough to wear them. I veered between very thin and pretty fat in my teens and early twenties, and only found a healthy equilibrium (ie feel slightly chubby now in my forties but a healthy bmi so that's good enough for me!) in my late twenties, and I can tell you one thing that never ever would have helped me to get there quickly, and that's societal pressure, shame and systemic barriers.
I'm pretty careful with my kids to try to do what I can to make sure they don't get overweight in the first place, though.

They aren't suggesting that this though, exercise is seen as virtuous in adulthood but exercising the brain via a book is not a concern for anyone.

I don't weigh what I did in my 20s though, I was two stone lighter. That would take some pain!

That is who you know. There are people who actually struggle to maintain weight, because they have such a small appetite, and who do eat what they like, just not too much of it. I am absolutely speaking for myself here. It is disingenuous to suggest that slim people are somehow all depriving themselves, or exercising half to death, or are in the grip of an eating disorder.

I think your opinion on women who are slim is more about you than them.

I don't deny myself and do indeed 'eat what I want', maybe what I want is different to what you want? I don't know, I'm not you.

I'm 9 1/2 stone, 5' 8" and in my 50s. I genuinely don't think about my weight or consciously try and 'maintain'. I genuinely eat exactly what I feel like. I love food and cooking. I'm certainly not denying myself.

I do pilates and swim, nothing onerous though.

Yes, I mean the twenties not really hard to eat loads tbh, especially prior to hanging children.

Understand but I could eat like a horse without gaining weight until after my first child in my late 20s 🤔

I assume you don't have DC as you won't say.

That's utterly ridiculous, I enjoy good vigorous exercise maybe 4 times per week (1-1.5 hours) - that leaves me plenty of time, 100s and 100s of hours to do the things you deem worthy. Which I do. Living in a healthy body is pretty fundamental to a healthy mind. Our modern lives mean that most of us simply don't get anything like the exercise we need to maintain healthy bodies without actively pursuing it. The fit strong women I know who incorporate movement as part of a balanced life - most often in the company of others - are in most cases also amongst the liveliest, sparkiest and most engaged women, they are absolutely not vacuous gym bunnies. We are all in our 40s and 50s.

Being slim is not a virtue or a job, it is a description that is open to any of us, I was literally slim until 3 years ago, why would I male veiled comments. I am stating that having been slim and very thin in twenties, stop pretending no effort is involved as it is. I think it is disingenuous in your forties to say that is easy - it's isn't for anyone I know!