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To think this message was not terrible and Husband is over reacting?

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PointToItOnThePage · 08/09/2024 19:44

My husband has read messages on my phone of a group chat between a few friends.

The subject was another friends step children and an issue she had with them. A few people replied talking generally about how they couldn't deal with step children, don't know how you cope etc...

My response to the general conversation was:

'It is hard. X & Y (my stepchildrens names) are really good kids but it's not easy. I must admit I think anyone who can love them like their own is a saint, I certainly couldn't".

And then to another part of the discussion between the other people in the chat who were discussing their teenage stepchild leaving a mess everywhere:

"It definitely grates on you more when it isn't your child for sure".

The above were my only responses during this conversation.

I am quite furious that he's taken it upon himself to read through my messages but I suppose that's another thread. He thinks I'm totally unreasonable for the above, I think it was a private conversation between friends and nothing I said was actually that terrible and he's being wholly OTT to act as though what I said is a heinous marital crime.

I do a lot for my two DSC, I try my absolute best, I don't always get it right but I'm not a bad step parent and I've put myself last many many times to ensure what's best for the children is done. I don't think I deserve the grief over two messages that I really can't see are so terrible.

WIBU?

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Wineandcupcakes · 08/09/2024 22:07

I think he shouldn’t have read your messages but if you really can’t see why he’s upset by what your wrote about your feelings towards his kids then I’d assume some form of neurodivergent issues or personality disorder to be honest.

Bringitonnowibeg · 08/09/2024 22:07

Yes, he could have but in the moment he obviously didn't think he could trust you to tell the truth. If my children were being discussed by someone and I had an opportunity to read the message I would no doubt do rhe same. Rightly or wrongly. Wouldn't anyone? Come on here like ?
You have bigger issues now and he could end up resenting you.

Bigglesbob · 08/09/2024 22:07

I think sometimes its good to remember that written words remain and sometimes they sound harsher when you read them than when you say them. I was a step child and although I knew my step parents (who had their own children ) had great affection and even love for me I also knew that my mum and dad loved me more as I did them. It was all good really tbh. It’s just maybe best to keep conversations like this to when you see people face to face. He shouldn’t have read your phone but he must have had your password so maybe it’s something you do as a rule in your relationship?

DavidBeckhamsrightfoot · 08/09/2024 22:05

enterthedragonn · 08/09/2024 22:04

@PointToItOnThePage most definitely we are all entitled to private conversations away from our spouses, no doubt about it! It's just unfortunate that he was able to see it, we're not angels and we will have grievances though it should be made sure that once said it goes into thin air and the recipient (or in this recipient's father) don't catch wind of it

And he wouldn't have. If he just minded his own business.

Edingril · 08/09/2024 22:04

Women read men's messages it's mentioned on here all the time but no one should be doing it

PointToItOnThePage · 08/09/2024 22:04

Bringitonnowibeg · 08/09/2024 22:01

So you say he's already concerned how you feel about his children anyway. Then he sees their names pop up in a message ? how could he not look ? I know I would. So you wouldn't have a problem if you read the same on his fone. You've humiliated him also by your wording about his children to your friends.

He could have asked me.

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enterthedragonn · 08/09/2024 22:04

@PointToItOnThePage most definitely we are all entitled to private conversations away from our spouses, no doubt about it! It's just unfortunate that he was able to see it, we're not angels and we will have grievances though it should be made sure that once said it goes into thin air and the recipient (or in this recipient's father) don't catch wind of it

PointToItOnThePage · 08/09/2024 22:03

RedHotWings · 08/09/2024 22:01

Irrelevant as you are.moaning about his kids not him

The point remains the same. Being able to have private conversations away from your spouse is not abnormal. Just because you're married doesn't mean that person should be given a pass to read through private conversations behind your back.

Whether I was discussing him, the kids, ours or his, his mum, whoever. Us being married is not an excuse as PP was implying.

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stripybobblehat · 08/09/2024 22:03

PointToItOnThePage · 08/09/2024 21:50

This is what I thought about the slagging off comments too. I don't feel I've said anything personal about the children at all to be honest, more just about step parenting in general and how it's difficult. Which it is!

I agree with PPs though we clearly need a conversation about expectations.

And you need to look at his phone carefully

DavidBeckhamsrightfoot · 08/09/2024 22:02

Lemonadelime · 08/09/2024 21:58

“There is no way you can love them as your own as you didn’t give birth to them”, are you serious? What a horrible thing to say ☹️

I am truly baffled by the comments on here stating you can’t ever love a step child more than your own?!!!!!

I’ve had wonderful experiences with a step parent, who gave me so much support and guidance (heaps more than birth one, must I add). Awfully ignorant and daft comment.

Edited

And that's great for you.
But you can't speak for them.
OP was in a private conversation
She didn't say this to the children

RedHotWings · 08/09/2024 22:01

PointToItOnThePage · 08/09/2024 22:01

I don't agree that I shouldn't have written it to be honest so I don't think it's that. I think I'm entitled to private conversations with friends and yes, even privately away from my husband.

We all need to vent away from our spouses sometimes surely? Just because you're married doesn't mean you may never need or want to speak to another person privately.

As I say, I'd stake my life that he has had a moan about me before to his mate when we've argued or whatever, as have I from time to time. I don't think that's abnormal to want or need on occasion.

Irrelevant as you are.moaning about his kids not him

PointToItOnThePage · 08/09/2024 22:01

enterthedragonn · 08/09/2024 21:58

With regard to reading the message, call me crazy but I don't think it's a big deal, you are a married couple, if there's nothing to hide then it shouldn't bother you. Perhaps you're just annoyed that he read something you know you shouldn't have written

I don't agree that I shouldn't have written it to be honest so I don't think it's that. I think I'm entitled to private conversations with friends and yes, even privately away from my husband.

We all need to vent away from our spouses sometimes surely? Just because you're married doesn't mean you may never need or want to speak to another person privately.

As I say, I'd stake my life that he has had a moan about me before to his mate when we've argued or whatever, as have I from time to time. I don't think that's abnormal to want or need on occasion.

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Bringitonnowibeg · 08/09/2024 22:01

So you say he's already concerned how you feel about his children anyway. Then he sees their names pop up in a message ? how could he not look ? I know I would. So you wouldn't have a problem if you read the same on his fone. You've humiliated him also by your wording about his children to your friends.

Lemonadelime · 08/09/2024 21:58

Usercyzabc · 08/09/2024 19:51

There is no way you can love them as your own as you didn’t give birth to them. If anything him thinking that undermines the bond they share with their own mother in my view but I digress.

You’re doing great if you get on with them, and there is nothing awful about what you said, you’re entitled to those feelings.

YNBU and your husband is an arse for reading your messages.

“There is no way you can love them as your own as you didn’t give birth to them”, are you serious? What a horrible thing to say ☹️

I am truly baffled by the comments on here stating you can’t ever love a step child more than your own?!!!!!

I’ve had wonderful experiences with a step parent, who gave me so much support and guidance (heaps more than birth one, must I add). Awfully ignorant and daft comment.

enterthedragonn · 08/09/2024 21:58

With regard to reading the message, call me crazy but I don't think it's a big deal, you are a married couple, if there's nothing to hide then it shouldn't bother you. Perhaps you're just annoyed that he read something you know you shouldn't have written

bucketsoflove · 08/09/2024 21:57

bucketsoflove · 08/09/2024 21:55

I would be full on raging that my DH read my messages, how dare he?
And beyond that I would refuse to engage.
You are not responsible for your friend's rant in the group chat
You are entitled to respond as you feel to your friends in group chat
They are your friends and your group chat

If he wants to unsettle your relationship because of something he saw by breaching your boundaries then that's on him. You have absolutely nothing to apologise for.

But do put a PIN on your phone to keep everything safe

RedHotWings · 08/09/2024 21:57

Ultimately, I think that if a step parent chooses to place themselves in a position where children will naturally ascribe parental-like role and responsibilities, then that person does have moral responsibilities towards the children. And while I understand that a person may deep down not feel the same - and there is nothing wrong with that - I don't think it follows that it is fine to have those kind of conversations. And this is particularly the case if you have your own kids together who are living with your step kids in a single household.

StarDolphins · 08/09/2024 21:57

Surely no one loves step children like their own? You said it’s hard but they’re really good kids. I think that’s fine!

Katemax82 · 08/09/2024 21:56

You have my every sympathy..I absolutely hated being a stepmum

enterthedragonn · 08/09/2024 21:56

lightsandtunnels · 08/09/2024 19:49

Your responses are clearly very unfavourable about his children - it reads as if you don't like them. Do you? You say you do a lot for them and put them first at times over yourself etc etc but you don't actually say that you like them .
Obviously he shouldn't be reading your messages but I can totally see why he is pissed off at what you said. It must have been unpleasant for him to read. I would be very upset if I read this from my DH about my DS.

I have to second this OP. I have a step parent and he speaks of me proudly as if I'm his daughter, I've heard him when he didn't think I was listening. So it's probably disheartening for your DH to read negative things being said about his kids. Imagine it was the other way around, that should put it in perspective for you

Bigglesbob · 08/09/2024 21:56

Usercyzabc · 08/09/2024 19:51

There is no way you can love them as your own as you didn’t give birth to them. If anything him thinking that undermines the bond they share with their own mother in my view but I digress.

You’re doing great if you get on with them, and there is nothing awful about what you said, you’re entitled to those feelings.

YNBU and your husband is an arse for reading your messages.

I think you absolutely can love kids as your own even if you didn’t give birth to them.

bucketsoflove · 08/09/2024 21:55

I would be full on raging that my DH read my messages, how dare he?
And beyond that I would refuse to engage.
You are not responsible for your friend's rant in the group chat
You are entitled to respond as you feel to your friends in group chat
They are your friends and your group chat

If he wants to unsettle your relationship because of something he saw by breaching your boundaries then that's on him. You have absolutely nothing to apologise for.

Notmynamerightnow · 08/09/2024 21:55

People who eavesdrop never hear any good of themselves (or their kids!).

I'd say your comments were perfectly fair. Ask him if he expects your step kids to love you as much as they love their Mum?

DavidBeckhamsrightfoot · 08/09/2024 21:53

Emck3334 · 08/09/2024 21:51

Going through your phone js not okay if it's a boundary you have set so that is another issue. However if I had read these messages I would be upset. My partner is step dad to my children and says he loves them as his own. We also have a dd together and he is clear he feels the same towards her as the others. So perhaps the problem is that you think the way you do?

It's easy to say the right things.

And yet we see women posting so confused because they're divorcing their husband and now have a devastated oldest because he only wants to see his real child.

Createausername1970 · 08/09/2024 21:53

Goingncforthisone · 08/09/2024 19:57

That's a bit of a generalisation, what about adoptive parents?

Thank you.

I love my adopted DS. I may not have given birth to him, but he is my boy.

Edited to say that I could see that it might be easier to form a stronger bond with an adopted child than with a step child if the other parent is very much part of the step child's life, as logically they probably will have a stronger bond with their actual parent. Whereas an adopted child generally doesn't have a lot of contact with their birth parent so you fill a parent shaped hole in their lives.