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To feel hurt about not being invited to party

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Hillwalker · 08/09/2024 19:19

We moved into our village 4 years ago. I am retired and my husband semi retired. Despite being introverted and not normally a joiner, I joined the WI, becoming Secretary, became Treasurer of the Rural Cinema group and joined a reading group. I wanted to meet people and feel like part of the community. I’ve also helped out at various village events and been part of a quiz team. People have been friendly but many have lived here for decades and it’s difficult to make friends rather than acquaintances. A
couple of weeks ago, it was the 80th birthday party of a chap who lives near us. We’ve chatted often, I joined him on an organised village walk and I’ve taken part in many quizzes and other events with him and his wife. The party was held in the village hall and 150 people went. We were not invited but of course I heard about it from people at the activities I take part in. It feels like a kick in the teeth tbh. It makes me feel as if I’ve been deluded, thinking I was part of the community when actually that’s not true.

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JayJayEl · 12/09/2024 19:06

I work with the elderly in a small community where (literally) everyone knows everyone. We have residents who went to school together and now they're in their late 90s. They REALLY struggle with newcomers. For example, one lady was actually an evacuee during WWII and has lived there ever since. Even now - over EIGHTY YEARS later - she is viewed as an "outsider". Someone who "isn't from around here". So, @Hillwalker try not to be too upset over this. I understand why you are, but it's not a YOU problem, it's a them problem. X

IdiotPolice · 12/09/2024 16:14

Charlotttee · 08/09/2024 20:56

Did you want me to add a little heart to my opinion? People post on these boards for honest opinions to make a judgement if they were unreasonable or not. Judging by people's comments, they then weigh up if the consensus was that they were in fact unreasonable or not.

You’re doing an excellent job at missing the point. Thank you for explaining how mumsnet works but nobody said you weren’t giving your honest opinion, just that you can also carry kindness at the same time. It comes with emotional maturity. You’ll get there 🩷

HoppingPavlova · 12/09/2024 15:54

Yes it was slightly harsh. He had 150 people there, so its not just close friends

Come on, the man is 80yo. So, factor in his kids and their spouses/partners, probably grandchildren and maybe their partners. If a family who all have kids early, add in great grandkids. Then there will be his siblings kids/partners, their kids/partners etc. So, for an 80yo you can well have a huge cohort of family/partners alone. Then there would be friends. OP sounds as though she is the acquaintance bucket so probably over the 150 capacity.

Voneska · 12/09/2024 15:49

Small villages are Full of cliques. It's not as fri3ndly as you might think
Esp. if you're. Sa newcomer going Gun ho and diving into everything. Someone could be out to trip you up. Surely you must know the mechanics of NEWCOMERS . Imsorry this is life. Just be grateful no one ran off eith yohr Husband like happened to me. I put all this cr

Voneska · 12/09/2024 15:49

Small villages are Full of cliques. It's not as fri3ndly as you might think
Esp. if you're. Sa newcomer going Gun ho and diving into everything. Someone could be out to trip you up. Surely you must know the mechanics of NEWCOMERS . Imsorry this is life. Just be grateful no one ran off eith yohr Husband like happened to me. I put all this cr

CleopatrasBeautifulNose · 12/09/2024 14:46

At 80 he's likely got a long list of people who play a significant part in his life. Some will be children of those people.
You might have been no.167... Close but no cigar.

You have a vacancy for a friend or two, when these other people don't.
It's sad, I'm in a similar position. It's ok to yearn for that friend even as you understand that Mrs so and so isn't the answer.

You need people in a similar position to you who have a gap that you fit perfectly.

Emmz1510 · 12/09/2024 14:41

YourSnugHazelTraybake · 08/09/2024 23:12

I have over 70 people in my immediate family ( parents, great aunts/uncles, aunts, uncles, cousins, children , grandchildren, siblings). My partner has around 30/40, and we're in our late 40's, most of them live within 30 miles of us and we see them regularly. We would find it very easy to get to 150 with just family and very close friends.

i agree. He’s 80! He’s probably got kids, grandkids and maybe even great grandkids, not to mention siblings and their families, cousins and probably a shit load of friends accumulated over the years. A person his age could easily fill a hall with 150 people before even considering community acquaintances.

Emmz1510 · 12/09/2024 14:37

People don’t usually invite loads of folk from the community to their landmark birthday parties do they? I would expect it would be family (and his family might be huge!) and close friends. You might get on well and have taken part in community events with this person, but I wouldn’t expect to have been invited to his birthday party.

Bricolagette · 12/09/2024 14:27

Do you know the 80 year old?

NiftyKoala · 12/09/2024 14:18

I threw an 80th for my dad before he passed. I wouldn't have known anyone new to the neighborhood. It's possible this was really not a neighbor excluded you.

Sonia1111 · 12/09/2024 14:08

I'm in a similar situation, having moved to a small village a few years ago. No matter how many times I host people at my house I am left out when they plan things themselves. It's just so lonely and hurtful.

Eastie77Returns · 12/09/2024 09:51

AtYourOwnRisk · 09/09/2024 07:36

But they’re not ‘being unkind and exclusionary’. I had, as I said upthread, a very lonely eight years in a village despite being a friendly person and making all possible efforts, but I’m not blaming anyone who lived there for not befriending me — it was a village, not a club with obligations to make new members feel welcome. People had their own stuff going on. I wasn’t on their radar, partly, I think, because it was such a static community (the majority of other parents in DS’s class had gone to the same village school and stayed local, marrying local) that everyone already knew one another and just weren’t that used to encountering peiole to whom they had to introduce themselves.

A very lonely eight years. And people call Londoners unfriendly😂

Tbh, in such a static community with few new people arriving to live in the village, I would have thought it would be easier to welcome a new person and introduce yourself? It's not as if there's a constant influx which would make it tiresome to continually meet and greet people.

I'm not suggesting the locals should feel compelled to befriend anyone. It just all sounds very insular. I have a colleague who boasts that her family has lived in a village for hundreds of years "and we still call people who've lived here for 60 years incomers, they'll never be one of us". Ok.

Todaysbetterthanyesterday · 09/09/2024 09:30

I can see why you feel overlooked, you’ve put in effort and hope to be part of the community. I went to a friend’s party recently that her family organised. My friend kept asking is so and so here, what about this person ?? The problem was her family who arranged the party, did not know all her friends or how to contact them. So perhaps it was an merely an oversight.

KimberleyClark · 09/09/2024 09:25

Lorelaigilmore88 · 08/09/2024 20:36

Yes it was slightly harsh. He had 150 people there, so its not just close friends.

Exactly this.

Disturbia81 · 09/09/2024 09:24

And yes it is upsetting OP when you put the effort in with people and think you are friends, then realise they think differently.

Disturbia81 · 09/09/2024 09:22

SauviGone · 08/09/2024 21:10

I imagine it's very easy for most people to formulate a list of 150 people who they'd consider close enough to invite to a party, without including random people from the community who they happen to pleasantly pass the time of day with if they bump into them and who happen to attend the same pub quiz.

It doesn't mean you're not part of the community.

It sounds to me like you perhaps think you should have been invited because you've taken up what you consider key roles in certain groups. Unless you come back with a huge drip feed nothing in your OP indicates that you are close to this chap in any way at all.

Wow how the other half live. How do people know so many close family and friends

Arlobaby · 09/09/2024 07:39

DancingNotDrowning · 09/09/2024 07:21

Wild in this context is an accusation of being weird, unbalanced or abnormal. It’s provocatively unpleasant.

Combined with the mischaracterisation of the situation and relationship it’s a deliberate attempt to make the OP feel stupid and/or needy. The subtext is how could you possibly think you’re friends with this man, with a dash of let’s laugh at the needy poster who wants to be included by the community she’s worked hard to integrate into.

if that’s the posters honest opinion, she’s entitled to share it but she shouldn’t be surprised when she’s called out on it.

Wow the level of overthinking and people banging on about the word wild on this thread really is the thing that's wild.

AtYourOwnRisk · 09/09/2024 07:36

Eastie77Returns · 08/09/2024 22:37

Reading these responses, I’m quite relieved I’ve never moved to a village. It sounds claustrophobic and isolating all at the same time. I only moved to my new home 2 years ago both sets of neighbours have invited me & my family over to their birthday parties, Christmas drinks, BBQs and other occasions. We’ve done the same. It’s quite a close knit community with people who’ve lived on our street and in the area for decades but they are very friendly.

All of these rules around village incomers just sounds like an excuse to allow some people to be unkind and exclusionary simply because their great grandparents are buried in the local cemetery.

I don’t think the OP is unreasonable to feel hurt.

But they’re not ‘being unkind and exclusionary’. I had, as I said upthread, a very lonely eight years in a village despite being a friendly person and making all possible efforts, but I’m not blaming anyone who lived there for not befriending me — it was a village, not a club with obligations to make new members feel welcome. People had their own stuff going on. I wasn’t on their radar, partly, I think, because it was such a static community (the majority of other parents in DS’s class had gone to the same village school and stayed local, marrying local) that everyone already knew one another and just weren’t that used to encountering peiole to whom they had to introduce themselves.

AtYourOwnRisk · 09/09/2024 07:27

7isthemagicnumber · 09/09/2024 04:27

What happened when you moved - are you settled in better now?

@7isthemagicnumber, yes, even though it was within three months of the first Covid lockdown. Fortunately!

DancingNotDrowning · 09/09/2024 07:21

CVQueen · 08/09/2024 22:23

How did that poster belittle anyone, they said it was wild, ok maybe a slight over reaction but an honest opinion on the situation. Isn't that what this site is for?

Wild in this context is an accusation of being weird, unbalanced or abnormal. It’s provocatively unpleasant.

Combined with the mischaracterisation of the situation and relationship it’s a deliberate attempt to make the OP feel stupid and/or needy. The subtext is how could you possibly think you’re friends with this man, with a dash of let’s laugh at the needy poster who wants to be included by the community she’s worked hard to integrate into.

if that’s the posters honest opinion, she’s entitled to share it but she shouldn’t be surprised when she’s called out on it.

Dita73 · 09/09/2024 05:24

This is typical village life. They won’t see you as a local until you have a couple of past generations buried in their churchyard. Many people think they can move to villages,join all the local clubs including the local council,start growing veg and horse riding,etc. It’s what all the “newbies” do and it’s often looked down upon. Doesn’t mean they won’t be friendly but you won’t be “one of them”.

7isthemagicnumber · 09/09/2024 04:27

AtYourOwnRisk · 08/09/2024 21:56

OP, four years in a village isn’t long, certainly not long enough to be fully integrated, no matter how many roles you’ve taken on. It takes time, quite a lot of time. And not being invited to one acquaintance’s party is in no way an indication of anything other than one individual having 150 people he’s closer to/related to/ reciprocating an invitation to.

Also, you’re doing that thing I often see people who self-describe as introverts on here doing — it’s as though that the effort you see yourself putting in in having volunteered and joined things, when it’s not in your comfort zone, should be ‘repaid’ by reciprocal overtures of friendship from others.

Kindly, it doesn’t work like that.

I spent eight years living in a village doing everything always recommended on here to integrate. I had a child in the baby and toddler group, which I ran for a couple of years before I returned to work FT, then DS was in the village school, I joined the PTA and helped out with village events, volunteered as a litter picker , got involved in a local public transport campaign, went to the pub, invited people over, talked to people, tried to join the local book group (which said no). I’m a socially confident person, and have never struggled with friendships elsewhere, but no progress in eight years contributed to our decision to move on. And people said they were terribly sorry (and very surprised) when we put our house on the market. I think the assumption was that we’d always be there, so there was no rush! And maybe in eight more years we’d have made friends, but I didn’t have eight more in me.

I hope your experience will be better, or that you have more patience than I do!

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What happened when you moved - are you settled in better now?

pinkdelight · 09/09/2024 04:08

The other thing about being 80 is that your 4 years will seem like the blink of an eye. It's not that you have to have lived there all your life, but they'll have seen lots of people come and go and you won't have made it onto their invite list having only just rocked up when they're 76. They're clearly not short of people to invite from the rest of their life. And it really is their party, not a community event as others have said.

Comfort yourself with the fact that you probably didn't miss very much and try to do things for the enjoyment of them if possible. If you like the quizzing and WI etc, that's its own reward rather than needing validation by an 80yo who isn't really a friend by most people's standards.

NiceCutRoundDomeDormice · 09/09/2024 00:27

NewMum0305 · 08/09/2024 22:37

Please show me where I tried to police anything? I expressed an “honest opinion” that I felt the initial response was callous and then responded to the OP with my own thoughts on her post.

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You’re completely derailing the thread by constantly banging this drum.

Drivingoverlemons · 08/09/2024 23:19

YellowphantGrey · 08/09/2024 23:07

Which is why I asked how many live in the village. If there's 153 living there and 150 were invited then yes, you would feel shit. Chances are it's family and friends gathered along the way over the last 80 years so joining clubs and institutes wouldn't mean an invite.

There's a family on the road behind us, they moved in when she was pregnant with their first child, her second child has gone into year 13 this year and they are still referred to as the new family who live in Derek's place (name changed and Derek died, they bought his house)

My DM’s neighbour recently moved out after 29 years, I still think of her as the ‘new neighbour’ 😂 And DM socialised with her loads.

Give it time OP.