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To worry about oldest friend - barely any contact from her for 9 months

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EmeraldDreams73 · 08/09/2024 16:03

This is likely to be long, I'm sorry.

My oldest friend, P, lives about 1.5 hours from me, we've been very close for 45 years. Pre-technology we had the odd year or two where we just caught up by letter, but have been in very regular contact (usually WhatsApp) for probably the last 20 years. Our kids are similar ages. It's been rare for us to go more than a few days without contact, or a couple of weeks absolute max, though it ebbs and flows as we're both busy. We've been a huge support to each other for many years.

I got married 9 months ago (no, I didn't bombard her with tons of wedding shit beforehand! We had the odd chat about plans, she was definitely excited for it). She did a beautiful reading which was fab and I mentioned her in my speech, she and her family had a great time from what I could tell. No falling out or cross words at all. We were in touch briefly over Christmas as usual, but didn't manage to meet up (but had seen each other at the wedding just before, so I wasn't concerned).

I know she's always under a lot of pressure with work (p/t but very demanding), and I do remember her saying in January that she'd probably be a bit quieter than usual for a few weeks, as there was a lot going on with elderly parents and in laws as well. Obviously I said no problem, I don't want to add to her worries/stress with my own expectations, and said I'm here any time, don't worry at all.

But here we are in Sept and I've heard almost nothing from her since January and I'm worried. I suddenly know nothing at all about what's happening in her life when for 45 years we've had a pretty good idea of what's going on for each other. She has sent kind messages/ cards for my birthday and to my dds, all of which seem perfectly normal, but has given zero updates on her own life and asked for zero support, whereas she normally relies on me for emotional support, as I do her.

It just feels like something major must be going on and I miss her and I suppose I'm upset at the thought that she would normally want to talk to me but for some reason doesn't atm. I've tried really hard not to be upset but the longer it goes on, can't help it. It feels like grief.

I have messaged her a few times, never asking for anything from her, just giving brief bits of news as normal at first, and reiterating now and then that I was thinking of her and hoped she was OK. I've left it weeks on end between messages and tried to keep anything I do send as very short and low key, just checking in and never asking for a reply etc. I have said that I'm worried about her and that I'm here if she needs me, she responded with a heart emoji but still no contact. I'm almost sure she's not upset with me, there's been nothing I can think of at all but it often keeps me awake at night wondering.

Of course I realises she has no obligation to keep me in the loop, but after 45 years of being so close, and after multiple school hols where I hoped she'd get in touch (she works in education, as does her DP), I'm getting increasingly worried. I am also feeling hurt if I'm honest, not that I'd tell her - I don't want to make whatever she's going through about me. I do know that she's been struggling with menopause and she's had mh difficulties in the past, as has her DP and several members of her extended family.

I had an issue with another friend a few months ago (v different character and not a mutual friend, she was spectacularly bitchy to me and I was extremely upset but we sorted it out). While that was going on I did send P a more emotional message late one night - I felt like I was losing all my oldest friends, though didn't say that. Just said I really hoped she was OK, and if I'd done anything to upset her to please let me know, told her how much she means to me etc. She didn't answer that, which I took to mean that it's nothing I've done, and have made sure since to just send occasional, low key messages.

We have one mutual friend who is very blunt (and pretty rude at times, v different to both me and P) and when P has gone quiet in the past we would normally ask each other if she was OK. When I did this around March, she didn't reply and has ignored a couple of other enquiries - very out of character but we are in touch as normal, so I've assumed she either isn't worried, or has heard from P and she just doesn't want to be in close touch with me for now/at all. Which is fuelling the worry!

Has anyone else had this happen? I miss P so much. It feels like I'm being kept firmly at arm's length - she sends cards and the odd message (eg good luck to dd2 when she started college last week), it feels bizarre to have that contact without the other side of our friendship, ie any knowledge at all of what's going on for her. I want to help, to listen, to know if she's OK.

AIBU to be worried? I wouldn't dream of contacting her parents or anything, but it's so upsetting. Should I stop even my attempts at keeping things low key in case they're construed as pressure? Or keep going in the hope that whatever is going on, she eventually feels she wants to reconnect?

Sorry this is so long.

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Gloriia · 08/01/2025 17:31

Oh well fingers crossed, hope it goes ok. Sounds promising!

EmeraldDreams73 · 08/01/2025 17:19

Gloriia · 08/01/2025 17:03

Has she got back to you?

<over invested sorry Grin>

She has, we agreed a date a while ago (Sat 25th Jan) although not actually settled on a time and place yet! I suggested both a few days ago and she hasn't replied to that. I'm not too worried though, she seemed quite keen to get the date booked in. It'll either happen or it won't, I'm fine either way at this point! I will update after 25th though, whatever happens :)

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Gloriia · 08/01/2025 17:03

EmeraldDreams73 · 04/01/2025 20:58

I'll just say, sorry, can't do 29th, how about Saturday 11th - X time/X village cafe? If not, let me know.

She also put lots of very warm and normal sounding enquiries in her last message about my parents/dds/specific things that she knows will be going on this week. I think it's best not to answer those, just keep it super short and to the point.

I don't think she would cancel once booked, but who knows? I didn't think she'd ever do this, so I'm no judge!

If she books, then cancels or doesn't turn up, I won't arrange another date. If she says she can't do next Saturday, I will offer one more date, then give up. This is clear in my mind now and I will stick to it.

I want to be sure that I've done my bit in trying to book a date now that she's finally offering to talk, but I'm 100% prepared for it not to happen.

Has she got back to you?

<over invested sorry Grin>

AvonCallingBarksdale · 05/01/2025 10:17

OP hasn’t implored or begged. She’s tried to contact a very longstanding friend who’s inexplicably gone radio silent. This isn’t someone she met down the pub who, after an initial fun night, has decided they’ve not got much in common. OP has been v patient and measured.

Lostcat · 05/01/2025 10:00

Gloriia · 05/01/2025 09:14

The op hasn't implored or begged. These are longstanding friends who have been in contact every few days for years. The friend has inexplicably cooled and backed off, i think the op has been very polite and patient in trying to keep in touch in case the pal was ill in some way. However another friend has assured her this isn't the case, she weirdly seems to know what the issue is but no one's telling the op Confused.

The 'friend' has finally agreed to grace her with her presence but is now delaying committing to a date. As if she is enjoying keeping her hanging. At this point I'd think fuck it and leave her to it.

I don’t think OP did anything wrong. I just meant that she’s been reaching out for months, telling her friend she’s hear, looking to reconnect/ a response, reassuring her she can confide in her. But now friend is finally ready to talk - I don’t think passive aggressive via text is the way to go. It’s mixed signals and will only create more misunderstanding at this point. Of course I understand why OP is so hurt and her friend has been selfish, but OP has decided to meet and hear friend out , so better to get there with blameless behaviour on her side- finally see what’s up- and them explain to her friend how this has affected her and how upset she is - reasonably , clearly and in person.

GRex · 05/01/2025 09:40

I hope you can get the answers you need to move on. It's worth being prepared that she'll just say she's found the level of contact a bit overwhelming. I can appreciate you don't feel it was much, but it still might have been too much for her. You may need to decide if you're happy to be an acquaintance sending cards but fewer texts and meeting very infrequently, or not; it's worth considering in advance.

Gloriia · 05/01/2025 09:14

Lostcat · 04/01/2025 22:18

Hi OP , now she has finally responded to your imploring, I actually don’t think passive aggressive is the way to go at this point. It’s not entirely reasonable to beg her to talk to you for so long then sulk when she finally does. I’d just be completely friendly/ polite/ normal. Be reasonable about the timing. Set up this meeting , then see what she has to say/ have a really frank chat where you explain how this has impacted you etc in person xx

The op hasn't implored or begged. These are longstanding friends who have been in contact every few days for years. The friend has inexplicably cooled and backed off, i think the op has been very polite and patient in trying to keep in touch in case the pal was ill in some way. However another friend has assured her this isn't the case, she weirdly seems to know what the issue is but no one's telling the op Confused.

The 'friend' has finally agreed to grace her with her presence but is now delaying committing to a date. As if she is enjoying keeping her hanging. At this point I'd think fuck it and leave her to it.

Lostcat · 04/01/2025 22:18

EmeraldDreams73 · 04/01/2025 20:58

I'll just say, sorry, can't do 29th, how about Saturday 11th - X time/X village cafe? If not, let me know.

She also put lots of very warm and normal sounding enquiries in her last message about my parents/dds/specific things that she knows will be going on this week. I think it's best not to answer those, just keep it super short and to the point.

I don't think she would cancel once booked, but who knows? I didn't think she'd ever do this, so I'm no judge!

If she books, then cancels or doesn't turn up, I won't arrange another date. If she says she can't do next Saturday, I will offer one more date, then give up. This is clear in my mind now and I will stick to it.

I want to be sure that I've done my bit in trying to book a date now that she's finally offering to talk, but I'm 100% prepared for it not to happen.

Hi OP , now she has finally responded to your imploring, I actually don’t think passive aggressive is the way to go at this point. It’s not entirely reasonable to beg her to talk to you for so long then sulk when she finally does. I’d just be completely friendly/ polite/ normal. Be reasonable about the timing. Set up this meeting , then see what she has to say/ have a really frank chat where you explain how this has impacted you etc in person xx

Cyclingalong · 04/01/2025 21:53

I’m in the #ignorePcamp to prevent OP facing any more drama and hurt. Trustingly I was prepared to overlook the cruelty as a blip after years of close friendship but it wasn’t. I got more of the same and wish I hadn’t.
I hope P doesn’t do this to you OP. Whatever the outcome, we’re here for you.

Tetchypants · 04/01/2025 21:30

I think you’ve reached a point where you can be very blunt. “Listen, xxxx, you’ve got one last chance to fix this friendship because I have spent far too long upset by your silence and now I’m feeling hurt and annoyed. I am not doing another year of it. The ball is very much in your court if you truly want to make things better”

pikkumyy77 · 04/01/2025 21:12

I hope you get to meet her and that she is able to repair this rupture. As I said upthread I was able to reconnect with my oldest friend—someone I had lived with, talked on the phone almost daily with, for years—even after an estrangement that lasted for years. Don’t let bitterness over how she has jerked you around this year prevent a repair—if she is willing to be honest and forthcoming in this meeting.

I am pulling for you that you get some closure, one way or another .

EmeraldDreams73 · 04/01/2025 20:58

I'll just say, sorry, can't do 29th, how about Saturday 11th - X time/X village cafe? If not, let me know.

She also put lots of very warm and normal sounding enquiries in her last message about my parents/dds/specific things that she knows will be going on this week. I think it's best not to answer those, just keep it super short and to the point.

I don't think she would cancel once booked, but who knows? I didn't think she'd ever do this, so I'm no judge!

If she books, then cancels or doesn't turn up, I won't arrange another date. If she says she can't do next Saturday, I will offer one more date, then give up. This is clear in my mind now and I will stick to it.

I want to be sure that I've done my bit in trying to book a date now that she's finally offering to talk, but I'm 100% prepared for it not to happen.

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pikkumyy77 · 04/01/2025 20:57

Just offer “next sat” or whatever is convenient to you then forget about it. She will either deny, delay, or accept. Anything other than “accept” just goes in the bin. Don’t offer anything that costs you in time, money, or arrangement. At this point its more like a meet and greet with a potential from OLD. You aren’t sure they will turn up or that you will like them.

Gloriia · 04/01/2025 20:47

TaylorSwish · 04/01/2025 20:42

What if she plans to meet and cancels? Then arranges another day? What would you do? It’s gone on long enough now.

Yes and the thing is whatever she has to say at this stage is now irrelevant. To leave a friend to stew for months is absolutely crazy.

Even if she says 'oh you upset me with a comment you made about [whatever]' it's now just too late.

I would block her op. Yes 45 years is a long time but I'm sure you have other nicer non sulky friends Flowers.

TaylorSwish · 04/01/2025 20:42

What if she plans to meet and cancels? Then arranges another day? What would you do? It’s gone on long enough now.

Gloriia · 04/01/2025 20:37

So sorry that this friend is treating you so cruelly op. You surely don't deserve this, she's obviously cheesed off about something but what a way to treat an old previously close friend.

I know it hurts but for your own self esteem just back off and ignore any more messages. Let her see how it feels.

Azandme · 04/01/2025 20:16

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 04/01/2025 13:34

I'd maybe call her bluff and say great, let's make it Saturday the Xth of Y, and please give me an alternative Saturday if that isn't suitable and I'll put that in my diary.
Nice, clear and businesslike.

I'd tell her the 29th doesn't work for you, then do the above.

WellsAndThistles · 04/01/2025 19:48

Personally I would give up now, block her and move on. Can't be arsed with friend drama and you are kind of coming across as a bit of a stalker who won't take the hint.

EmeraldDreams73 · 04/01/2025 19:36

0123thehollyandtheivy0123 · 04/01/2025 19:28

For me I needed closure so I met them. I knew within a few minutes that I wouldn't be seeing them again.

I had a similar situation recently but was able to send my friend a polite but firm message and then block her. Had been trying for months to meet her.

Sorry you went through that. I do feel that if I'm able to talk to her I will know very quickly whether I'll ever want to again.

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0123thehollyandtheivy0123 · 04/01/2025 19:28

For me I needed closure so I met them. I knew within a few minutes that I wouldn't be seeing them again.

I had a similar situation recently but was able to send my friend a polite but firm message and then block her. Had been trying for months to meet her.

0123thehollyandtheivy0123 · 04/01/2025 19:24

I met a couple of friends 2 years after I adopted my child. It had taken many messages and upset from me to get the meet up arranged. They had promised lots of support but gave none.

Anyway I met them. But I just felt very uncomfortable my trust had gone as well as my desire to talk about my life or meet again. I messaged them once after that then never messaged them again.

These were best friends of 35 years. I lost my two best friends. Well they weren't best friends were they as they never even met my child or showed any interest.

But life was too short to be in the constant situation like you are in @EmeraldDreams73

I had and have made better friends. I am so much happier.

Honestlyhonay · 04/01/2025 19:08

I do agree that op has come this far and should follow through. The friend is a complete dick but op needs some closure.

TwistedWonder · 04/01/2025 18:54

ScaryM0nster · 04/01/2025 17:44

You’re getting a lot of ‘ignore her’ comments.

Im just going to gently remind you that you’ve wanted this for 18 months.

If you meet and talk, you’re then making an informed decision, in line with your original intent. Not one dictated by people on the internet who like a drama.

Disagree. By taking control and drawing a line under the friendship, the OP is ending the drama. Continuing to try and get answers out of P and to arrange to meet is dragging the drama out imo.

SassK · 04/01/2025 18:51

ScaryM0nster · 04/01/2025 17:44

You’re getting a lot of ‘ignore her’ comments.

Im just going to gently remind you that you’ve wanted this for 18 months.

If you meet and talk, you’re then making an informed decision, in line with your original intent. Not one dictated by people on the internet who like a drama.

The woman in question had made clear she doesn't want to talk. What the OP is actually getting is a lot of pick your self respect up off the floor comments.

The woman in question has indirectly told the OP to bog off on countless occasions. The OP has reached a decision whereupon she wants to be told directly, in person, to bog off.

99% of the replies have been insightful and kind, many sharing their own hurtful experiences. To write those off as mere drama seeking is beyond thoughtless; your post and the appreciative responses to it have annoyed me, so I'm done with this one. Good luck OP 🙂

EmeraldDreams73 · 04/01/2025 18:31

Newuser75 · 04/01/2025 17:54

I'd go with this. Really hope you are able to actually meet up and talk.
I think you will always wonder if not.

Thank you, I'm so pissed off with her, but I don't think I can throw away this many years by closing the door myself yet (despite it appearing that she can...).

I'm much more detached from it all now compared to last week - a two day (internal) meltdown was plenty! Just want to see it through/get it over with, really. At the moment I think I'd struggle not to tell her to get lost if I saw her but we may not get as far as that anyway. Either way I'm finished grovelling but I'd still like to find out wtf I'm supposed to have done.

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