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To worry about oldest friend - barely any contact from her for 9 months

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EmeraldDreams73 · 08/09/2024 16:03

This is likely to be long, I'm sorry.

My oldest friend, P, lives about 1.5 hours from me, we've been very close for 45 years. Pre-technology we had the odd year or two where we just caught up by letter, but have been in very regular contact (usually WhatsApp) for probably the last 20 years. Our kids are similar ages. It's been rare for us to go more than a few days without contact, or a couple of weeks absolute max, though it ebbs and flows as we're both busy. We've been a huge support to each other for many years.

I got married 9 months ago (no, I didn't bombard her with tons of wedding shit beforehand! We had the odd chat about plans, she was definitely excited for it). She did a beautiful reading which was fab and I mentioned her in my speech, she and her family had a great time from what I could tell. No falling out or cross words at all. We were in touch briefly over Christmas as usual, but didn't manage to meet up (but had seen each other at the wedding just before, so I wasn't concerned).

I know she's always under a lot of pressure with work (p/t but very demanding), and I do remember her saying in January that she'd probably be a bit quieter than usual for a few weeks, as there was a lot going on with elderly parents and in laws as well. Obviously I said no problem, I don't want to add to her worries/stress with my own expectations, and said I'm here any time, don't worry at all.

But here we are in Sept and I've heard almost nothing from her since January and I'm worried. I suddenly know nothing at all about what's happening in her life when for 45 years we've had a pretty good idea of what's going on for each other. She has sent kind messages/ cards for my birthday and to my dds, all of which seem perfectly normal, but has given zero updates on her own life and asked for zero support, whereas she normally relies on me for emotional support, as I do her.

It just feels like something major must be going on and I miss her and I suppose I'm upset at the thought that she would normally want to talk to me but for some reason doesn't atm. I've tried really hard not to be upset but the longer it goes on, can't help it. It feels like grief.

I have messaged her a few times, never asking for anything from her, just giving brief bits of news as normal at first, and reiterating now and then that I was thinking of her and hoped she was OK. I've left it weeks on end between messages and tried to keep anything I do send as very short and low key, just checking in and never asking for a reply etc. I have said that I'm worried about her and that I'm here if she needs me, she responded with a heart emoji but still no contact. I'm almost sure she's not upset with me, there's been nothing I can think of at all but it often keeps me awake at night wondering.

Of course I realises she has no obligation to keep me in the loop, but after 45 years of being so close, and after multiple school hols where I hoped she'd get in touch (she works in education, as does her DP), I'm getting increasingly worried. I am also feeling hurt if I'm honest, not that I'd tell her - I don't want to make whatever she's going through about me. I do know that she's been struggling with menopause and she's had mh difficulties in the past, as has her DP and several members of her extended family.

I had an issue with another friend a few months ago (v different character and not a mutual friend, she was spectacularly bitchy to me and I was extremely upset but we sorted it out). While that was going on I did send P a more emotional message late one night - I felt like I was losing all my oldest friends, though didn't say that. Just said I really hoped she was OK, and if I'd done anything to upset her to please let me know, told her how much she means to me etc. She didn't answer that, which I took to mean that it's nothing I've done, and have made sure since to just send occasional, low key messages.

We have one mutual friend who is very blunt (and pretty rude at times, v different to both me and P) and when P has gone quiet in the past we would normally ask each other if she was OK. When I did this around March, she didn't reply and has ignored a couple of other enquiries - very out of character but we are in touch as normal, so I've assumed she either isn't worried, or has heard from P and she just doesn't want to be in close touch with me for now/at all. Which is fuelling the worry!

Has anyone else had this happen? I miss P so much. It feels like I'm being kept firmly at arm's length - she sends cards and the odd message (eg good luck to dd2 when she started college last week), it feels bizarre to have that contact without the other side of our friendship, ie any knowledge at all of what's going on for her. I want to help, to listen, to know if she's OK.

AIBU to be worried? I wouldn't dream of contacting her parents or anything, but it's so upsetting. Should I stop even my attempts at keeping things low key in case they're construed as pressure? Or keep going in the hope that whatever is going on, she eventually feels she wants to reconnect?

Sorry this is so long.

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outerspacepotato · 25/01/2025 19:20

Adding:

"She made a point of saying she was really happy for me and it had nothing to do with the wedding or my dh - I didn't ask, she just said that, and more than once. "

I think you've got your real answer.

Wishing you happiness going forward.

RomeinApril · 25/01/2025 19:19

You really do sound like a wonderful friend, OP. I wouldn't doubt yourself in your other friendships... it's clear none of this is your doing & I do agree with some others that she probably isn't being entirely honest with you as this seems a disproportionate response to the reasons she gave, given you have had such a longstanding friendship 💐

fashionqueen0123 · 25/01/2025 19:17

Plus what exactly did she expect you to do when her Nan died?!

fashionqueen0123 · 25/01/2025 19:16

How bizarre this is the presumably first time she’d done this type of thing? She seems likes massive drama queen and totally ridiculous. Likes personality transplant! Like how can you know her for this long and now she acts like this, over such small things. She sounds crazy.

crumbsonmyface · 25/01/2025 19:11

Thank you for updating us, I'm so glad you got your closure and got to talk it out. Agree with all the other comments that she's not worth it. You are well within your rights to feel pissed off about it all, and how she handled things. Also agree with others that there was definitely something deeper going on for her (most likely jealousy). I personally would be quiet quitting this so called friend.
Look after yourself x

PeppyGreenFinch · 25/01/2025 19:11

Gloriia · 25/01/2025 19:10

Hmm she doth protest too much. Th wedding put her nose out of joint. Has she always been top dog regarding money, stable marriage etc?

I know someone who has gone cool on a friend just as the friend has bought a massive gorgeous house. That is nothing to do it of course..

Agreed.

Gloriia · 25/01/2025 19:10

EmeraldDreams73 · 25/01/2025 19:06

She made a point of saying she was really happy for me and it had nothing to do with the wedding or my dh - I didn't ask, she just said that, and more than once. Who knows? She's clearly a better actor than I could have imagined, so it could be bollocks.

Hmm she doth protest too much. Th wedding put her nose out of joint. Has she always been top dog regarding money, stable marriage etc?

I know someone who has gone cool on a friend just as the friend has bought a massive gorgeous house. That is nothing to do it of course..

outerspacepotato · 25/01/2025 19:09

I read you update and I still think there's something deeper. The things she said she was upset about are so trivial like the seating (who tries to center themselves at a wedding) or just weird like she wanted you to do more when her grandmother died? You were grieving a friend who had just died. Did she send a card? Combining presents is pretty normal, my kids have Jan birthdays and postage is pricey. You know her, does she get all petty Betty about trivial little things like this where she's not the center of attention? That's not stuff best friends go low contact over and play push pull games over.

I don't think she's being honest with you and I think without honesty, your friendship is done at least for a while. She's got stuff that she needs to work on. It sounds like you're not going to get sucked into her push you away then pull you close dynamic again and that's a good thing.

EmeraldDreams73 · 25/01/2025 19:06

She made a point of saying she was really happy for me and it had nothing to do with the wedding or my dh - I didn't ask, she just said that, and more than once. Who knows? She's clearly a better actor than I could have imagined, so it could be bollocks.

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Uricon2 · 25/01/2025 19:05

Honestly OP, she is not a good friend. She may have been at one time, but real friends don't stew on bits of nonsense (which her gripes are) and use them as a stick to beat you with, they're either treated as being utterly unimportant and never mentioned or dealt with at the time.

To an outsider, she isn't a very pleasant person to do this, especially to someone you have such a long history with. This is not a new friend being a bit flakey (and even then, her complaints are petty) but someone she knows fully and still isn't able to make the slight allowances most would for an aquaintance.

You deserve better.

Gloriia · 25/01/2025 19:01

PeppyGreenFinch · 25/01/2025 18:52

Op, PLEASE do not get sucked back into the presents, birthday cards, condolences cards, etc., she really doesn’t deserve any consideration.

She will ABSOLUTELY find another way to punish you if you don’t behave exactly as she wants you to.

She WANTS you on tenterhooks.

Yes although it is quite surprising this is a 45yr friendship and she hasn't behaved like this previously, or has she op when you look back? Just not in such a prolonged and concentrated way.

Does seem like the wedding was the sticking point, she blamed the seating but was there more to it is she jealous of your happiness perhaps?

EmeraldDreams73 · 25/01/2025 18:53

RomeinApril · 25/01/2025 18:32

Out of interest OP, when you sadly lost your friend from cancer quite young, did P send you a card/flowers or offer support?

Good question.

This was the second friend actually, both in their fifties. She said how sorry she was both times. No cards or flowers, but I wouldn't have expected any as they weren't family. She did send a lovely card when we lost an elderly family member just before Christmas.

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PeppyGreenFinch · 25/01/2025 18:52

Op, PLEASE do not get sucked back into the presents, birthday cards, condolences cards, etc., she really doesn’t deserve any consideration.

She will ABSOLUTELY find another way to punish you if you don’t behave exactly as she wants you to.

She WANTS you on tenterhooks.

OverthinkingOlive · 25/01/2025 18:47

I don't believe any of that bullshit and am still convinced she fancies your husband and is too embarrassed to admit it. It's the only thing that makes sense to me.

MuddlingThrough1724 · 25/01/2025 18:42

Aria999 · 25/01/2025 17:49

Wow. I guess the real reason she never told you about any of it was that it would have sounded so stupid and petty.

Because....

This.....

She's been totally ridiculous, and so self centred. I wouldn't be making any effort if I was staying in touch at all.....let her do the running!

Reg22 · 25/01/2025 18:41

Im totally stunned to be honest, I also think there is more to it than the reasons she gave.

Could it be that she is jealous of your new life? It seems that you getting married started all this?

I have found some friends like you better when your life is crap as it makes them feel better in their own lives. When I got my act together and turned my life around I lost a few friends hat I had considered as close friends.
I remember one in particular didn't mention the fact that I had lost a considerable amount of weight once. She even stopped inviting me to things.

Im glad you got an explanation but as others have said I think she has been incredibly mean to you and I'm not sure you can carry on as if nothing has happened?

Sending you love

Bollihobs · 25/01/2025 18:39

Well done OP. You've been dignified and scrupulously fair throughout.

Quite frankly, she's a self centred twat. What a lot of drama and fuss over so little. And how long before she has another "perceived slight" episode.... feeling like you are walking on eggshells with her is grossly unfair to you.

She doesn't deserve you and you deserve a lot better.💐

I'm glad for you that the 'not knowing' is over but going forwards, hmmmm, I'm not sure I could and I admire that you are willing to try.

RomeinApril · 25/01/2025 18:32

Out of interest OP, when you sadly lost your friend from cancer quite young, did P send you a card/flowers or offer support?

Gloriia · 25/01/2025 18:30

Oh well done op for going and listening. I think I'd have walked out halfway through she sounds absolutely self absorbed and petty. Who gets in a huff over wedding seating or the odd missed birthday and a card for the expected death of a 102yr old is absolutely sufficient.

You'll be walking on egg shells with every encounter with her now. I think I'd block the silly cow. Sorry, I'm sure it all hurts but it is so unnecessary Flowers.

biscuitsandbooks · 25/01/2025 18:30

I'd tell her piss off, quite frankly. She sounds awful from your update.

kitteninabasket · 25/01/2025 18:28

Oh god! What strange things to hold grudges over. I'd be pissed off too. I couldn't be friends with her, I'd feel like I was treading on eggshells.

Cyclingalong · 25/01/2025 18:26

She has no embarrassment quibbling about trivia and ridiculously finding fault, especially after such a long friendship. No wonder you’re pissed off and unimpressed and imo menopause doesn’t give her a get out card. She’s unsettled you and made you question yourself. Do you want to keep this prima donna on your Christmas card list?

JustCrow · 25/01/2025 18:03

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 25/01/2025 18:00

To be honest, I'd be done.

So would I. She’s ridiculous.

TwistedWonder · 25/01/2025 18:02

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 25/01/2025 18:00

To be honest, I'd be done.

I agree. It’s pathetic childish self obsessed navel gazing BS. I really don’t think I would have any tolerance to deal with her any more.

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 25/01/2025 18:00

To be honest, I'd be done.