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To worry about oldest friend - barely any contact from her for 9 months

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EmeraldDreams73 · 08/09/2024 16:03

This is likely to be long, I'm sorry.

My oldest friend, P, lives about 1.5 hours from me, we've been very close for 45 years. Pre-technology we had the odd year or two where we just caught up by letter, but have been in very regular contact (usually WhatsApp) for probably the last 20 years. Our kids are similar ages. It's been rare for us to go more than a few days without contact, or a couple of weeks absolute max, though it ebbs and flows as we're both busy. We've been a huge support to each other for many years.

I got married 9 months ago (no, I didn't bombard her with tons of wedding shit beforehand! We had the odd chat about plans, she was definitely excited for it). She did a beautiful reading which was fab and I mentioned her in my speech, she and her family had a great time from what I could tell. No falling out or cross words at all. We were in touch briefly over Christmas as usual, but didn't manage to meet up (but had seen each other at the wedding just before, so I wasn't concerned).

I know she's always under a lot of pressure with work (p/t but very demanding), and I do remember her saying in January that she'd probably be a bit quieter than usual for a few weeks, as there was a lot going on with elderly parents and in laws as well. Obviously I said no problem, I don't want to add to her worries/stress with my own expectations, and said I'm here any time, don't worry at all.

But here we are in Sept and I've heard almost nothing from her since January and I'm worried. I suddenly know nothing at all about what's happening in her life when for 45 years we've had a pretty good idea of what's going on for each other. She has sent kind messages/ cards for my birthday and to my dds, all of which seem perfectly normal, but has given zero updates on her own life and asked for zero support, whereas she normally relies on me for emotional support, as I do her.

It just feels like something major must be going on and I miss her and I suppose I'm upset at the thought that she would normally want to talk to me but for some reason doesn't atm. I've tried really hard not to be upset but the longer it goes on, can't help it. It feels like grief.

I have messaged her a few times, never asking for anything from her, just giving brief bits of news as normal at first, and reiterating now and then that I was thinking of her and hoped she was OK. I've left it weeks on end between messages and tried to keep anything I do send as very short and low key, just checking in and never asking for a reply etc. I have said that I'm worried about her and that I'm here if she needs me, she responded with a heart emoji but still no contact. I'm almost sure she's not upset with me, there's been nothing I can think of at all but it often keeps me awake at night wondering.

Of course I realises she has no obligation to keep me in the loop, but after 45 years of being so close, and after multiple school hols where I hoped she'd get in touch (she works in education, as does her DP), I'm getting increasingly worried. I am also feeling hurt if I'm honest, not that I'd tell her - I don't want to make whatever she's going through about me. I do know that she's been struggling with menopause and she's had mh difficulties in the past, as has her DP and several members of her extended family.

I had an issue with another friend a few months ago (v different character and not a mutual friend, she was spectacularly bitchy to me and I was extremely upset but we sorted it out). While that was going on I did send P a more emotional message late one night - I felt like I was losing all my oldest friends, though didn't say that. Just said I really hoped she was OK, and if I'd done anything to upset her to please let me know, told her how much she means to me etc. She didn't answer that, which I took to mean that it's nothing I've done, and have made sure since to just send occasional, low key messages.

We have one mutual friend who is very blunt (and pretty rude at times, v different to both me and P) and when P has gone quiet in the past we would normally ask each other if she was OK. When I did this around March, she didn't reply and has ignored a couple of other enquiries - very out of character but we are in touch as normal, so I've assumed she either isn't worried, or has heard from P and she just doesn't want to be in close touch with me for now/at all. Which is fuelling the worry!

Has anyone else had this happen? I miss P so much. It feels like I'm being kept firmly at arm's length - she sends cards and the odd message (eg good luck to dd2 when she started college last week), it feels bizarre to have that contact without the other side of our friendship, ie any knowledge at all of what's going on for her. I want to help, to listen, to know if she's OK.

AIBU to be worried? I wouldn't dream of contacting her parents or anything, but it's so upsetting. Should I stop even my attempts at keeping things low key in case they're construed as pressure? Or keep going in the hope that whatever is going on, she eventually feels she wants to reconnect?

Sorry this is so long.

OP posts:
SassK · 26/01/2025 00:09

SassK · 25/01/2025 23:38

She's left the OP dangling in uncertainty for months, then turned up with a lengthy rap sheet of silly slights.
The upshot of this woman's behaviour is @EmeraldDreams73 questioning her worth in ALL of her friendships (an awful, but entirely understandable, reaction). I'd say venomous is putting it mildly!

Just to clarify I mean an awful reaction to have to experience (not awful to have). I don't want it to sound like I was slighting the OP.

EmeraldRoulette · 26/01/2025 00:00

@Alalalala decades and then they change! (Btw is that an abbreviated username, did it used to have lilong at the end)

@EmeraldDreams73 what was the tone like, was it like she was telling you off or more acknowledgement of her being a bit silly?

@SassK fair dos

Alalalala · 25/01/2025 23:54

Wow, it’s all pretty pathetic of her isn’t it? And so self important.

I do think that it takes decades to truly know someone (and even then….). Plus there are fault lines through every relationship which will potentially be exacerbated at stress points.

She should be embarrassed really. Well done on how you’ve handled this OP. But don’t hesitate to pull away from her if that’s what feels right.

SassK · 25/01/2025 23:38

EmeraldRoulette · 25/01/2025 23:25

@EmeraldDreams73
Glad you're okay.

I'm not quite sure what I was expecting, but not this! I think I was expecting her to say that life had kind of taken over or something. I wasn't expecting stuff that sounds quite petty.

Thanks for telling us what happened. I have one person in particular that I sometimes feel like asking her if I did anything wrong. That person is a bit different because she has completely vanished (unless you count a Christmas message which I suspect was a round robin). Your experience puts me firmly in the position that I won't bother. Last time I saw her, she was enthused and happy to see me so there's not even complications of big events etc

I understand that sometimes we're all capable of being irrational and we will misunderstand small things, but I had rather hoped that a good long-term friendship would get past all of that.

It's amazing how much people change over a period of years. I guess she has become a bit petty. I think some posters are seeing it as quite vicious but I'm not seeing that. More just puzzled really.

@SassK isn't "venomous" a bit strong?

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She's left the OP dangling in uncertainty for months, then turned up with a lengthy rap sheet of silly slights.
The upshot of this woman's behaviour is @EmeraldDreams73 questioning her worth in ALL of her friendships (an awful, but entirely understandable, reaction). I'd say venomous is putting it mildly!

SassK · 25/01/2025 23:33

nzeire · 25/01/2025 21:51

Jesus, I’m cross on your behalf. I had this happen to me e years ago, sat there like a mug while a “friend” told me of all my sins. It took years to recover, my other (real) friends were amazing, tap into that. You sound just lovely xxx

As we age our learning grows, and it gets easier (well it has for me) to drop friends who leave me second guessing. A true friendship is one where you leave a meet up feeling good, not wondering if you did or said something wrong.

It's empowering to drop toxic friends, and it's only the benefit of hindsight that let's you see just how much of a negative effect they were having. I don't judge family relations and friendships on longevity or labels now (I cringe hearing people with toxic family say 'ah but he/she is still my brother/sister etc' from siblings who clearly don't like each other!), because relationships aren't built on time or labels, they're built on the effort and emotion you put in.

EmeraldRoulette · 25/01/2025 23:25

@EmeraldDreams73
Glad you're okay.

I'm not quite sure what I was expecting, but not this! I think I was expecting her to say that life had kind of taken over or something. I wasn't expecting stuff that sounds quite petty.

Thanks for telling us what happened. I have one person in particular that I sometimes feel like asking her if I did anything wrong. That person is a bit different because she has completely vanished (unless you count a Christmas message which I suspect was a round robin). Your experience puts me firmly in the position that I won't bother. Last time I saw her, she was enthused and happy to see me so there's not even complications of big events etc

I understand that sometimes we're all capable of being irrational and we will misunderstand small things, but I had rather hoped that a good long-term friendship would get past all of that.

It's amazing how much people change over a period of years. I guess she has become a bit petty. I think some posters are seeing it as quite vicious but I'm not seeing that. More just puzzled really.

@SassK isn't "venomous" a bit strong?

SassK · 25/01/2025 23:17

EmeraldDreams73 · 25/01/2025 19:44

Just had a message saying thank you for today xxx.

People are bloody crazy.

Some people are crazy. Most aren't!

Seeing her, and hearing her rhyme off her character destroying rap sheet, will have did your self esteem not one iota of good! Jeez, quite the opposite. She is an absolute arsehole, the type of venomous twonk I'd be thanking my lucky stars to be rid of.
I hope you can find the fire inside to be kinder to yourself. Honestly, what you've described is awful; and to think you actually apologised to her 😔 She's absolute poison @EmeraldDreams73.

Piglet89 · 25/01/2025 22:56

One of my so called "pals" in my NCT group took against me and started digging up shit on me like the fact I refused to participate in her MLM scheme. Then she got heinously drunk at the wedding of another of the couples in the group and had a HUGE go at me. I was driving, so completely sober. It was distressing - but I do suspect she has significant mental health issues.

She made this shit non apology via WhatsApp a full 3 days after the event. I had absolutely no hesitation in binning her.

Life is MUCH too short for that crap. TBF I hadn't known her for decades, tho.

Circumferences · 25/01/2025 22:53

Christ this thread is making ME paranoid about what small insignificant thing I might one day do to lose one of my closest friends 😲

I need to chime in to say I agree with others, that what she's complaining about pales into insignificance compared to the fact you got married.
I'd bet my left arm that she's massively jealous of your wedding and happy relationship. That's the only thing that makes sense.

Now she's come out with a load of bullshit literally scrabbling around to find things you supposedly did to justify her behaviour, it's up to her to get over it (her jealousy) and it's up to you if you want to "take her back" after this.

Secondguess · 25/01/2025 22:19

"Thank you for today"
Well that sounds like "Thank you for letting me tell you how disappointed in your behaviour I've been. I thought you were beginning to work it out for yourself and I have been very careful in deciding how long to ignore you for, and how to respond to your messages. I'm so glad that you started to really think about all the ways you've failed to support me in the past year or so - I knew you'd get there eventually! It's a bit disappointing that I had to spell some of it out today but now that you've told me how much you were second-guessing yourself, I know you'll do better next time. Remember, I'm the main character in this story. "

nzeire · 25/01/2025 21:51

Jesus, I’m cross on your behalf. I had this happen to me e years ago, sat there like a mug while a “friend” told me of all my sins. It took years to recover, my other (real) friends were amazing, tap into that. You sound just lovely xxx

Patienceinshortsupply · 25/01/2025 21:25

I'm not even sure what to say, OP.

It all sounds like an awful lot of drama from a woman her age, tbh. I think I'd be taking a cautious step back from here and letting her do the running.

DowntonNabby · 25/01/2025 21:14

Bloody hell, talk about petty! Nothing your friend said justifies how she has treated you for the past year. Nothing. Your lovely DH is right about the sulk.

I would lose all respect for her as a friend and would pull back. Because now she’s done this and got away with it, she will sulk again. Not worth treading on eggshells.

Gloriia · 25/01/2025 20:41

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 25/01/2025 20:32

Do not fucking reply!

It's hard though isnt it. This is a life long friendship, if this is the only blip it may be worth a very tentative second chance but I'd be on high alert. The slightest weirdness, cool behaviour, anything that made me question things I'd walk away.

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 25/01/2025 20:32

EmeraldDreams73 · 25/01/2025 19:44

Just had a message saying thank you for today xxx.

People are bloody crazy.

Do not fucking reply!

Truetoself · 25/01/2025 20:13

This is the thing. We all want to know what we have done wrong but don't like what we hear.

It doesn't matter if her reasons are reasonable to you or not. It is how she felt.

The decision is now for you to decide if you can put this behind you or not?

In some friendships this is possible. In most it is not

ScaryM0nster · 25/01/2025 20:06

Flipping it round slightly.

She possibly went to your wedding feeling like she’d been a really close friend for a long time and assuming she was going to be in the ‘first tier’ guest bracket. And was still expecting that from the table plan you sent. Then the reality being the only table out on a limb landed like a bit of a sucker punch.
Some people get very, very hung up on wedding etiquette and significance of xyz as a reflection of their importance to the bride and groom.

Then a few very minor things that reinforce that ‘you don’t actually rate that much to me’ perception she’s got in mind.

At which point all the advice on here for her would be to drop the effort and put the person who was seemingly trying to push you away a bit at arms length yourself.

Small things grow arms and legs very quickly, especially when there’s births / marriages / deaths involved.

Glad the mystery has been solved for you.

Im going to hazard at guess that in the 45 yrs of friendship there have been more and less active parts. This might be naturally turning into one of those less active phases. No big statements needed.

LunaNorth · 25/01/2025 20:02

A close relative did this to me. A diatribe of ten years plus of resentments got thrown at me, and what you said about it wrecking your confidence, as well as any trust you had in her, really resonated.

Like you, I barely recognised the version of events I was faced with.

It was very, very hard to get over. I’ve had to cut contact for my mental health. But I read somewhere, “I don’t mind being the villain in your story if it means I can have peace,” and it’s my mantra now. Along with, “Let them.”

Onwards and upwards, OP.

EmeraldDreams73 · 25/01/2025 19:44

Just had a message saying thank you for today xxx.

People are bloody crazy.

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EmeraldDreams73 · 25/01/2025 19:40

I updated dh when I got in and he said "so you're telling me this was just a year-long SULK?!"

I didn't trust my own reaction tbh (again, standard for me...) and hearing him, my dds and all of you say the same thing is helping validate it. X

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Bollihobs · 25/01/2025 19:35

Gloriia · 25/01/2025 19:10

Hmm she doth protest too much. Th wedding put her nose out of joint. Has she always been top dog regarding money, stable marriage etc?

I know someone who has gone cool on a friend just as the friend has bought a massive gorgeous house. That is nothing to do it of course..

Yep I agree too.

Had she possibly pigeonholed you over the years OP, as someone who, having come out of a bad relationship, would always be 'grateful' for her friendship and therefore try hard and give a lot to her...? And she liked it being that way, and then you go and find a lovely new partner, it all goes great, you get married and, she's had her nose put out of joint because the dynamic of you being grateful and needy of her friendship has now gone... 🤔 So she seethes and sulks and throws her toys out of the pram citing frankly ridiculous reasons.

Piglet89 · 25/01/2025 19:30

Fucking crazy. I'd have binned her off ages ago - I've way too much on to mither about stuff like this.

EmeraldDreams73 · 25/01/2025 19:29

50s actually! That's even worse 😆

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Piglet89 · 25/01/2025 19:28

Honest to God, who has time for this kind of petty crap in their 40s?!

XWKD · 25/01/2025 19:24

She sounds deranged.